so i failed emissions twice...lol

EscortSportage · October 19th, 2008, 03:40 PM

yupe i need new cats.... im thinking of hacking off my garbage cats and buying magnaflow universals putting those on my stock h pipe and taking it back down to emissions...

frusterating...

93hatch · October 19th, 2008, 03:50 PM

thats fn expensive hit up craigslist for a stock h pipe with 4 cats

e3sean · October 19th, 2008, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by EscortSportage

yupe i need new cats.... im thinking of hacking off my garbage cats and buying magnaflow universals putting those on my stock h pipe and taking it back down to emissions...

frusterating...

did you drive the car around town to heat em up before you took it? and +1 on the 4 cat stock pipe thats what i have i just put it on when it comes emission time. its kinda like a community pipe lol.

93hatch · October 19th, 2008, 04:18 PM

ur pipes a sluuuuuut

nolife · October 19th, 2008, 04:23 PM

What is out of spec causing you to fail? Knowing that would help you narrow down what the problem is.

BORDEN · October 19th, 2008, 07:12 PM

unplug an injector!

mustangsoldier · October 19th, 2008, 11:21 PM

ahhh how i love oklahoma!! no emissions!!

1989Gt. · October 20th, 2008, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by mustangsoldier

ahhh how i love oklahoma!! no emissions!!

fuck off.... cali sucks balls

Iwannagofast · October 20th, 2008, 12:58 AM

i have heard runnin that e85 in it will help ya pass

ReverendDexter · October 20th, 2008, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by nolife

What is out of spec causing you to fail? Knowing that would help you narrow down what the problem is.

+1

Also, knowing how far off you are can be a help. If it's just a little bit, tricks like changing your oil right before you go, or running some denatured alchohol in the fuel can make the difference.

EscortSportage · October 20th, 2008, 07:30 PM

yes i did warm up the cats pretty well, i drove around for a while and i opened it LOTS of fun!

i installed my MSD 6AL box, i retarded the timing to 8 degrees, i got new spark plugs, i took off my air filter, new fresh 93 octane gas and new oil and oil filter and i still failed...

all 3 numbers on the emissions paper are higher than they should be...(cats arnt burning anthing)

stangfreak · October 20th, 2008, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by mustangsoldier

ahhh how i love oklahoma!! no emissions!!

+1 here in kansas

fairlane_68 · October 20th, 2008, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by mustangsoldier

ahhh how i love oklahoma!! no emissions!!

Bite your tongue...they're considering it if they go back to State Inspections...

mxnate116 · October 21st, 2008, 12:50 AM

can you get a waiver? thats what i ended up having to do. went through 3 times before i got one.

EscortSportage · October 22nd, 2008, 09:11 PM

in order to get a waiver i have to prove ive spent at least $660 dollars worth of parts that will improve emissions...

N29468 · October 22nd, 2008, 10:06 PM

Cant you use seafoam? It says it cleans out the cats on their website

GreenFaleen · October 22nd, 2008, 10:46 PM

were you hooked up to a sniffer or was it an OBD 2 reading your failed?

fogged306 · October 22nd, 2008, 10:59 PM

Had to be a sniffer, it's an 89.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but retarding your timing to 8* and using 93 sounds like it could have hurt you. You aren't running enough compression to burn all the fuel when using 93... if you have stock compression of course.

mxnate116 · October 23rd, 2008, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by EscortSportage

in order to get a waiver i have to prove ive spent at least $660 dollars worth of parts that will improve emissions...

holy hell. in washington its 150$ from a certified tech...

nolife · October 23rd, 2008, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by fogged306

Had to be a sniffer, it's an 89.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but retarding your timing to 8* and using 93 sounds like it could have hurt you. You aren't running enough compression to burn all the fuel when using 93... if you have stock compression of course.

That's why I asked what specs failed and caused the failure. Reading codes would help as well. Running lean, rich, hot, or cold, open loop, closed loop etc.. can cause different readings to be higher and lower and there will be a different solution to get it back into spec. A lot of the "do this" fixes people post *MAY* have worked for them or their friend once in the past but this person may have a completely different issue that requires a completely different solution.

October 19th, 2008, 03:40 PM	#1
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	so i failed emissions twice...lol yupe i need new cats.... im thinking of hacking off my garbage cats and buying magnaflow universals putting those on my stock h pipe and taking it back down to emissions... frusterating... __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

October 19th, 2008, 03:50 PM	#2
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats fn expensive hit up craigslist for a stock h pipe with 4 cats __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

October 19th, 2008, 04:18 PM	#4
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	ur pipes a sluuuuuut __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

October 19th, 2008, 04:23 PM	#5
nolife MM Fanatic 91GT, 88GT, 02GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,057 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	What is out of spec causing you to fail? Knowing that would help you narrow down what the problem is. __________________

October 20th, 2008, 07:30 PM	#11
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	yes i did warm up the cats pretty well, i drove around for a while and i opened it LOTS of fun! i installed my MSD 6AL box, i retarded the timing to 8 degrees, i got new spark plugs, i took off my air filter, new fresh 93 octane gas and new oil and oil filter and i still failed... all 3 numbers on the emissions paper are higher than they should be...(cats arnt burning anthing) __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

October 19th, 2008, 07:12 PM	#6
BORDEN Regular 91 lx convt 14.02@100 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 161 iTrader: 0 reviews	unplug an injector!

October 19th, 2008, 11:21 PM	#7
mustangsoldier Hardcore Enthusiast 1993 Mustang we'll find out when i come home from iraq. Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: from Lawton, OK stationed @ Ft. Hood, TX Posts: 1,860 iTrader: 0 reviews	ahhh how i love oklahoma!! no emissions!!

October 21st, 2008, 12:50 AM	#14
mxnate116 Hardcore Enthusiast SVTfocus, F250 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 2,971 iTrader: 1 reviews	can you get a waiver? thats what i ended up having to do. went through 3 times before i got one.

October 22nd, 2008, 09:11 PM	#15
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	in order to get a waiver i have to prove ive spent at least $660 dollars worth of parts that will improve emissions... __________________ Cage Maximum Motorsports Sparco QH/BE Nitto "a huge bad azz motor is nice untill you have to turn or stop"

October 22nd, 2008, 10:46 PM	#17
GreenFaleen MM's Resident Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.001@113 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 9,880 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	were you hooked up to a sniffer or was it an OBD 2 reading your failed? __________________ Scion Tc Turbo - 9psi 297whp 287wtq 2500lbs :p MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer NCMM #9 "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby

October 22nd, 2008, 10:59 PM	#18
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	Had to be a sniffer, it's an 89. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but retarding your timing to 8* and using 93 sounds like it could have hurt you. You aren't running enough compression to burn all the fuel when using 93... if you have stock compression of course.

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