anyone have a manual rack?

e3sean · October 29th, 2008, 07:49 AM

what brand do you have and how much was it?

i am looking at the flaming river. you can get the rack itsself for $165 or the kit for like 4**.00 that comes with tie rods and a shaft. do i need that shaft or will the stock one work?

86_Notch · October 29th, 2008, 08:42 AM

i've got a flaming river rack ( standard ratio ) , i got the whole kit . it's quality stuff. the only time you realize u don't have power steering is when you are stopped and are trying to make a sharp turn ( nothing to sweat about ) . .

a side note : my buddy has the flaming river quick ratio rack and it's much harder to make slow turns.

e3sean · October 29th, 2008, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by 86_Notch

i've got a flaming river rack ( standard ratio ) , i got the whole kit . it's quality stuff. the only time you realize u don't have power steering is when you are stopped and are trying to make a sharp turn ( nothing to sweat about ) . .

a side note : my buddy has the flaming river quick ratio rack and it's much harder to make slow turns.

do you have to have the whole kit or can you use the stock tie rods and steering shaft with this attachment Flaming River FR1604 - Flaming River Rack and Pinion Adapter Flanges - summitracing.com

1slo5.0 · October 29th, 2008, 09:39 AM

Flaming River FTW!

e3sean · October 29th, 2008, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Flaming River FTW!

thanks darrell you of all people i was relying on helping me, and all you have to say is that... you are my favroi

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can i use the rack with my stock tie rods and steering shaft?

1slo5.0 · October 29th, 2008, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by e3sean

thanks darrell you of all people i was relying on helping me, and all you have to say is that... you are my favroite

can i use the rack with my stock tie rods and steering shaft?

Buy the whole kit. The power rack and manual rack steering shaft and tie rod ends are different. The Flaming River steering shaft is pimp as a mofo too.

86_Notch · October 29th, 2008, 10:33 AM

just dont get the quick ratio > : 0 )

acmillr · October 29th, 2008, 10:37 AM

Do any of you know why the flaming river rack for the SN95 won't work with a modular set up?

1slo5.0 · October 29th, 2008, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by acmillr

Do any of you know why the flaming river rack for the SN95 won't work with a modular set up?

I didn't know that it wouldn't. Interesting.

stangfreak · October 29th, 2008, 11:04 AM

i believe you can use a replacement manual rack from a 1979 mustang and save a few bucks.

acmillr · October 29th, 2008, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Darrell

I didn't know that it wouldn't. Interesting.

All the notes on this page say "non-modular". Maybe I am missing something. I am almost sure they will fit, because I have seen several mod motored SN95's with the FR manual rack on them. I just wonder is there more to it than just bolting the r&p in place.

acmillr · October 29th, 2008, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by stangfreak

i believe you can use a replacement manual rack from a 1979 mustang and save a few bucks.

Yeah, that's what I did on my 92', but the FR just looks so sweet!

1slo5.0 · October 29th, 2008, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by stangfreak

i believe you can use a replacement manual rack from a 1979 mustang and save a few bucks.

You can save alot of bucks. But you still need different tie rod ends and a different steering coupler. If you have the extra money the Flaming River kit is well worth the money. The steering shaft alone is worth the money because it is that much better than the stock shaft.

stangfreak · October 29th, 2008, 11:13 AM

yeah it does. i'm just always thinking about going fast on a buget

1slo5.0 · October 29th, 2008, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by acmillr

All the notes on this page say "non-modular". Maybe I am missing something. I am almost sure they will fit, because I have seen several mod motored SN95's with the FR manual rack on them. I just wonder is there more to it than just bolting the r&p in place.

I wonder what the difference is. Must be oil pan clearance.

ryans88gt · October 29th, 2008, 04:13 PM

I think the shaft will not clear the exhaust on the mod motors, expecially the 4V mod motors. I had the flaming river kit on both foxes and I wish I would have done it from day 1. The steering feels better, you drop about 20-30 pounds getting rid of the power steering stuff, plus you clean up the engine bay considerably.

Laurel mountain mustang has a pretty good deal on the whole kit.

near the bottom of the page...it might be cheaper from the same company on ebay.
Laurel Mountain Mustang Parts

You cannot use the stock PS shaft with the manual rack, you will need a manual shaft, just buy the one from flaming river, its a good kit.

flyin ryan · October 29th, 2008, 06:06 PM

I've had a flaming river manual rack setup for little over two years without any problems... took off close to 30lbs off the front of my car and really opened up the engine bay some.

I would suggest going with the kit because the manual vs power tie rods are different lenghts but they do make an adaptor to fit your stock pos shaft to the manual rack but if your going for the conversion don't cheap out on your steering was the way I looked at it. Plus that adaptor deal looks a little weak to me since i daily drive my fox

October 29th, 2008, 07:49 AM	#1
e3sean I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 lx 9.68@142 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: goldsboro NC Posts: 5,596 iTrader: 0 reviews	anyone have a manual rack? what brand do you have and how much was it? i am looking at the flaming river. you can get the rack itsself for $165 or the kit for like 4**.00 that comes with tie rods and a shaft. do i need that shaft or will the stock one work? __________________

October 29th, 2008, 08:42 AM	#2
86_Notch Hardcore Enthusiast 1986 lx notch 9.98 @ 135 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,421 iTrader: 0 reviews	i've got a flaming river rack ( standard ratio ) , i got the whole kit . it's quality stuff. the only time you realize u don't have power steering is when you are stopped and are trying to make a sharp turn ( nothing to sweat about ) . . a side note : my buddy has the flaming river quick ratio rack and it's much harder to make slow turns. __________________ " Spending money I don't have.... on things I don't need .... to impress people I don't know " .

October 29th, 2008, 09:39 AM	#4
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	Flaming River FTW! __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

October 29th, 2008, 10:33 AM	#7
86_Notch Hardcore Enthusiast 1986 lx notch 9.98 @ 135 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,421 iTrader: 0 reviews	just dont get the quick ratio > : 0 ) __________________ " Spending money I don't have.... on things I don't need .... to impress people I don't know " .

October 29th, 2008, 10:37 AM	#8
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,120 iTrader: 2 reviews	Do any of you know why the flaming river rack for the SN95 won't work with a modular set up? __________________

October 29th, 2008, 11:04 AM	#10
stangfreak Banned MEMBER #334 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wyandotte County Posts: 1,635 iTrader: 0 reviews	i believe you can use a replacement manual rack from a 1979 mustang and save a few bucks. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [SIZE="4"]"This just in....14.79 @ 92.15 is not fast"[/SIZE] Last edited by stangfreak; October 29th, 2008 at 11:10 AM.

October 29th, 2008, 11:13 AM	#14
stangfreak Banned MEMBER #334 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wyandotte County Posts: 1,635 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah it does. i'm just always thinking about going fast on a buget __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [SIZE="4"]"This just in....14.79 @ 92.15 is not fast"[/SIZE]

October 29th, 2008, 04:13 PM	#16
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,627 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think the shaft will not clear the exhaust on the mod motors, expecially the 4V mod motors. I had the flaming river kit on both foxes and I wish I would have done it from day 1. The steering feels better, you drop about 20-30 pounds getting rid of the power steering stuff, plus you clean up the engine bay considerably. Laurel mountain mustang has a pretty good deal on the whole kit. near the bottom of the page...it might be cheaper from the same company on ebay. Laurel Mountain Mustang Parts You cannot use the stock PS shaft with the manual rack, you will need a manual shaft, just buy the one from flaming river, its a good kit. __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

October 29th, 2008, 06:06 PM	#17
flyin ryan Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've had a flaming river manual rack setup for little over two years without any problems... took off close to 30lbs off the front of my car and really opened up the engine bay some. I would suggest going with the kit because the manual vs power tie rods are different lenghts but they do make an adaptor to fit your stock pos shaft to the manual rack but if your going for the conversion don't cheap out on your steering was the way I looked at it. Plus that adaptor deal looks a little weak to me since i daily drive my fox

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