Heads and intake question.

BoostFiend · November 5th, 2008, 02:06 AM

I planned on doing a H/C/I swap on my Notch this winter and originally I was planning on going with the Trickflow Streetburner top end kit. Due to finance problems I was going to try to find a Cobra upper and lower intake, GT40p heads, 1.6 roller rockers with an e-303 cam. I realize this won't make the power of the Trickflow setup but it should be pretty decent. Thoughts?

Iwannagofast · November 5th, 2008, 02:47 AM

i think you could do better than that with the cam and still get it fairly cheap......as far as the intake goes i have heard that with a good porting on the lower they can flow almost as well as the trickflows and stuff

Chris951 · November 5th, 2008, 03:08 AM

Yeah dude get the Cobra intake ported. Maybe go with some 1.7 rockers and go with something better for your cam. AFM n41 is really good I hear. Or something along the lines of an f303.

BoostFiend · November 5th, 2008, 04:03 AM

Thanks guys, the only reason I was going with an e303 was because a buddy of mine says they are the most mild cam we can get for our cars but still provides good gains. I will look into other ones.

86_Notch · November 5th, 2008, 07:31 AM

that's about as budget as you can get ( and that's a good thing ) , i ran that combo for years and it ran 12.60s @ 106 in my full weight 86 t top capri. ( it went 11.70s with a 75 shot of juice ) you'll get a lot of flack for running the e cam but it's a good cam and you can find them for less then 100 bucks all day long.

Chris951 · November 5th, 2008, 10:08 AM

Just for the price you can get a much better cam. I personally would ONLY run an e cam if I was on a super tight budget... Actually I think I would just save up for something better and not even touch the cam.

91cobra5.0 · November 5th, 2008, 10:14 AM

If you go with a gt-40 intake it is cheaper and flows rthe same. You are trying to do the same set up id like 2 have

grnstang · November 5th, 2008, 10:48 AM

303 cams are out dated...but they do work. it's just if you can afford a better cam you should look into a comp or anderson or something of that sort. extreme energy cams are nice

91cobra5.0 · November 5th, 2008, 10:54 AM

How hard and how long does it take to install and set a cam in a motor that is still in the car?

grnstang · November 5th, 2008, 11:06 AM

if the person has done it before...probbaly 2 maybe 3 hours

sixxxshoooter · November 5th, 2008, 11:10 AM

Great Question...I would like to know that as well. I want to do the same.

ryans88gt · November 5th, 2008, 11:19 AM

not very hard, you'll have to pull the upper and lower intake, rockers, roller lifters.

Then the balancer, water pump, and timing cover. The radiator and the timing chain.

You may need to drop the front of the oil pan down as well. The swap cams and reinstall everything.
Plan on a full day if you have never done it before, maybe a weekend in case you run into any problems.

93hatch · November 5th, 2008, 01:45 PM

budget and ford racing cams dont go together! my trickflow cam is cheaper than the ford racing cams

Sleeper_Stang_89 · November 5th, 2008, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by BoostFiend

I planned on doing a H/C/I swap on my Notch this winter and originally I was planning on going with the Trickflow Streetburner top end kit. Due to finance problems I was going to try to find a Cobra upper and lower intake, GT40p heads, 1.6 roller rockers with an e-303 cam. I realize this won't make the power of the Trickflow setup but it should be pretty decent. Thoughts?

Ebay and classifieds on stang sites are gonna be your friend... go to (dont hate me for saying this) some other stang sites to the classifieds and see if anything your interested in is for sale... also Ebay... you might can still get what you originally wanted and still be on a budget...

grnstang · November 5th, 2008, 02:37 PM

bump that cam swap to about 4 or 5 hours actually...i thought about it some more

BoostFiend · November 5th, 2008, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Sleeper_Stang_89

Ebay and classifieds on stang sites are gonna be your friend... go to (dont hate me for saying this) some other stang sites to the classifieds and see if anything your interested in is for sale... also Ebay... you might can still get what you originally wanted and still be on a budget...

Ok cool, I have just heard horror stories about buying used heads and cams. I willl look around a bit and let you guys know what I come up with.

JBIGBOOTSY · November 5th, 2008, 07:52 PM

There is a guy on here that runs 11's with that combo...

Tony_90fox · November 5th, 2008, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

budget and ford racing cams dont go together! my trickflow cam is cheaper than the ford racing cams

They are in the same ball park on every website...$75-100 used all the time.

1slo5.0 · November 5th, 2008, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by BoostFiend

I planned on doing a H/C/I swap on my Notch this winter and originally I was planning on going with the Trickflow Streetburner top end kit. Due to finance problems I was going to try to find a Cobra upper and lower intake, GT40p heads, 1.6 roller rockers with an e-303 cam. I realize this won't make the power of the Trickflow setup but it should be pretty decent. Thoughts?

How about piecing together some used parts. Used Trick Flow heads are all over the place. You can find pretty much any cam you want on Ebay. Otherwise the combination you laid out isn't bad but for a little bit more money you can have a better set of heads. One thing people don't think about when buying a set of high mileage GT40 heads is they are going to need work. They will need a valve job, surfacing and springs at minimum if not guides and possibly a couple valves and a set of retainers and locks. You could just slap them on and take your chances.....and you can hit on 20 in black jack too...

BoostFiend · November 5th, 2008, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

You could just slap them on and take your chances.....and you can hit on 20 in black jack too...

Sig worthy.

Good info Darrell, I think I am just gonna look around for some used stuff. I will probably buy a new cam though.

November 5th, 2008, 02:06 AM	#1
BoostFiend Regular '03 Cobra, '89 +'91 Notch 11.63@120.08, Cobra Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 341 iTrader: 0 reviews	Heads and intake question. I planned on doing a H/C/I swap on my Notch this winter and originally I was planning on going with the Trickflow Streetburner top end kit. Due to finance problems I was going to try to find a Cobra upper and lower intake, GT40p heads, 1.6 roller rockers with an e-303 cam. I realize this won't make the power of the Trickflow setup but it should be pretty decent. Thoughts? __________________

November 5th, 2008, 04:03 AM	#4
BoostFiend Regular '03 Cobra, '89 +'91 Notch 11.63@120.08, Cobra Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 341 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks guys, the only reason I was going with an e303 was because a buddy of mine says they are the most mild cam we can get for our cars but still provides good gains. I will look into other ones. __________________

November 5th, 2008, 07:31 AM	#5
86_Notch Hardcore Enthusiast 1986 lx notch 9.98 @ 135 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,522 iTrader: 0 reviews	that's about as budget as you can get ( and that's a good thing ) , i ran that combo for years and it ran 12.60s @ 106 in my full weight 86 t top capri. ( it went 11.70s with a 75 shot of juice ) you'll get a lot of flack for running the e cam but it's a good cam and you can find them for less then 100 bucks all day long. __________________ " Spending money I don't have.... on things I don't need .... to impress people I don't know " .

November 5th, 2008, 10:48 AM	#8
grnstang Hardcore Enthusiast 91 LX 13.7@101 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norwalk OH Posts: 1,426 iTrader: 1 reviews	303 cams are out dated...but they do work. it's just if you can afford a better cam you should look into a comp or anderson or something of that sort. extreme energy cams are nice __________________

November 5th, 2008, 11:06 AM	#10
grnstang Hardcore Enthusiast 91 LX 13.7@101 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norwalk OH Posts: 1,426 iTrader: 1 reviews	if the person has done it before...probbaly 2 maybe 3 hours __________________

November 5th, 2008, 03:08 AM	#3
Chris951 Hardcore Enthusiast 1991 mustang 5.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,938 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah dude get the Cobra intake ported. Maybe go with some 1.7 rockers and go with something better for your cam. AFM n41 is really good I hear. Or something along the lines of an f303.

November 5th, 2008, 10:08 AM	#6
Chris951 Hardcore Enthusiast 1991 mustang 5.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,938 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just for the price you can get a much better cam. I personally would ONLY run an e cam if I was on a super tight budget... Actually I think I would just save up for something better and not even touch the cam.

November 5th, 2008, 10:14 AM	#7
91cobra5.0 Hardcore Enthusiast 98 Cobra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 2,057 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you go with a gt-40 intake it is cheaper and flows rthe same. You are trying to do the same set up id like 2 have

November 5th, 2008, 10:54 AM	#9
91cobra5.0 Hardcore Enthusiast 98 Cobra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 2,057 iTrader: 0 reviews	How hard and how long does it take to install and set a cam in a motor that is still in the car?

November 5th, 2008, 11:10 AM	#11
sixxxshoooter Regular 1989 Mustang Gt 5.0 n/a Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greensboro Posts: 322 iTrader: 0 reviews	Great Question...I would like to know that as well. I want to do the same.

November 5th, 2008, 11:19 AM	#12
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,737 iTrader: 0 reviews	not very hard, you'll have to pull the upper and lower intake, rockers, roller lifters. Then the balancer, water pump, and timing cover. The radiator and the timing chain. You may need to drop the front of the oil pan down as well. The swap cams and reinstall everything. Plan on a full day if you have never done it before, maybe a weekend in case you run into any problems. __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

November 5th, 2008, 01:45 PM	#13
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	budget and ford racing cams dont go together! my trickflow cam is cheaper than the ford racing cams __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

November 5th, 2008, 02:37 PM	#15
grnstang Hardcore Enthusiast 91 LX 13.7@101 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norwalk OH Posts: 1,426 iTrader: 1 reviews	bump that cam swap to about 4 or 5 hours actually...i thought about it some more __________________

November 5th, 2008, 07:52 PM	#17
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	There is a guy on here that runs 11's with that combo... __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

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