motor block ?'s

93lx306dev · November 7th, 2008, 07:06 PM

i am gonna be puttin nitrous on my car this winter so i was just wondering what is the most the stock block with all forged internal could handle? what would be the biggest shott that i could run safely? would a 150 shott work?

thanks 4 your time

86_Notch · November 7th, 2008, 07:24 PM

150 easily/reliably ......... 200 ehhhh ......... for a while

93lx306dev · November 8th, 2008, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by 86_Notch

150 easily/reliably ......... 200 ehhhh ......... for a while

Ok nice thats nice to hear i guess thats what i am gonna do this winter!!!! do u have any suggestion on what i should buy and do? like what kind of pistons should i get and stuff like that and proper stuff to run nitrous safely?

thanks 4 ur time

Justincredible · November 8th, 2008, 01:10 AM

Do you already have a rotating assembly?

Iownastang · November 8th, 2008, 01:53 AM

why is it always the same damn questions over and over.. Yes a 150 will be fine.. i would recommend some forged pistons though.

86_Notch · November 8th, 2008, 07:12 AM

you dont' need to do anything to your motor to run a 150 shot except to run good gas and retard the timing according to the instructions in the nitrous kit. i do suggest a fuel pump upgrade tho, it's cheap insurance @ 100 bucks also not mandatory but i'd get a colder set of plugs for a little bit of added insurance ( autolite 24s )

sixxxshoooter · November 8th, 2008, 08:47 AM

Would there be any tuning necessary? Or could you just run colder plugs, fuel upgrade and a 150(wet or dry) shot and your good?

Racinjason81 · November 8th, 2008, 01:11 PM

take out 6 degrees of timing (2degrees per 50hp of nitrous=6 degrees for 150shot)get a walbro 255lph intank fuel pump for extra insurance and 1-2 step colder sparkplugs.now if you still have the factory 1993 pistons just hope they stay together

Racinjason81 · November 8th, 2008, 01:17 PM

also whats a motor block? i didnt know 5.0s ran on electricity maybe it was a secret option when you bought the car.motors are electric.

Hunt_chevs · November 8th, 2008, 02:24 PM

a bone stock 302 can handle upwards of a 150 shot no probs

Justincredible · November 8th, 2008, 02:39 PM

I ran a 200 shot on my 170,000 mile 5.0 with a TFS top end kit and had no issues for well over a year, going to the track every weekend.

Even better....I sold that short block to a college kid who put it in a daily driver that he built on the cheap...and to the best of my knowledge...it's still going.

The key to longevity with nitrous is to have a good tune, use good fuel, a good fuel pump, dont get greedy with the timing, and check your plugs often.

93lx306dev · November 8th, 2008, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Justincredible

I ran a 200 shot on my 170,000 mile 5.0 with a TFS top end kit and had no issues for well over a year, going to the track every weekend.

Even better....I sold that short block to a college kid who put it in a daily driver that he built on the cheap...and to the best of my knowledge...it's still going.

The key to longevity with nitrous is to have a good tune, use good fuel, a good fuel pump, dont get greedy with the timing, and check your plugs often.

Ok sounds good!!! what do you mean by good gas?

Justincredible · November 8th, 2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by 93lx306dev

Ok sounds good!!! what do you mean by good gas?

On the 200 shot....I would run my fuel tank close to empty and drop a few gallons of 110 octane race fuel in the tank once I got to the track.

On a 150 shot...Id just be sure to run my tank down and then top it off with a good name brand 93 octane (Cheveron, BP, or Shell). I also preferred to buy my pump gas from a newly built gas station to avoid any debris and water that is common in old gas station holding tanks.

Some might say its overkill....but Id rather spend a little on good fuel and not have to spend alot on a new short block.

vfast · November 8th, 2008, 06:55 PM

it's the rod bolts I would be worried about

Originally Posted by 93lx306dev

i am gonna be puttin nitrous on my car this winter so i was just wondering what is the most the stock block with all forged internal could handle? what would be the biggest shott that i could run safely? would a 150 shott work?

thanks 4 your time

Justincredible · November 9th, 2008, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by vfast

it's the rod bolts I would be worried about

Typically....the block will give up long before the rod bolts.

gotn20 · November 9th, 2008, 05:42 PM

Dude I had 188,000 mile on my stock motor with over 20 bottle of nitrous with probably 10 of those at a 200 shot. I had zero problems. My motor did give but I was crusing down the freeway when it did. So i did a ghetto build for now hci, and a stock forged rotating assembly all together with new rings bearing gasket's i spent like 300 bucks on the rebuild. So far I've put 8 bottles of nitrous with a 200 shot on the re ringed motor with zero issues.

93lx306dev · November 9th, 2008, 08:35 PM

ok i changed my mind i am gonna get a supercharger!!!! what is the max boost that i can run on a stock block? what should i have for compression to run 10 to 15 pounds of boost?

November 7th, 2008, 07:06 PM	#1
93lx306dev Regular 1993 ford mustang lx 302 13.2 @ 104mph Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 173 iTrader: 0 reviews	motor block ?'s i am gonna be puttin nitrous on my car this winter so i was just wondering what is the most the stock block with all forged internal could handle? what would be the biggest shott that i could run safely? would a 150 shott work? thanks 4 your time __________________ FORD = FOUND ON ROAD DOMINATING www.myspace.com/stangdevin

November 7th, 2008, 07:24 PM	#2
86_Notch Hardcore Enthusiast 1986 lx notch 9.98 @ 135 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,522 iTrader: 0 reviews	150 easily/reliably ......... 200 ehhhh ......... for a while __________________ " Spending money I don't have.... on things I don't need .... to impress people I don't know " .

November 8th, 2008, 01:10 AM	#4
Justincredible RIP Justincredible! God Speed Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ky Posts: 523 iTrader: 0 reviews	Do you already have a rotating assembly? __________________ 9.91@ 134mph 1/4 - 6.17@ 109mph 1/8th - 1.33 60' - Stock ECU & Stock Suspension......and getting faster . BIVENS RACE CARS FTMFW!!!

November 8th, 2008, 01:53 AM	#5
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	why is it always the same damn questions over and over.. Yes a 150 will be fine.. i would recommend some forged pistons though. __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

November 8th, 2008, 07:12 AM	#6
86_Notch Hardcore Enthusiast 1986 lx notch 9.98 @ 135 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,522 iTrader: 0 reviews	you dont' need to do anything to your motor to run a 150 shot except to run good gas and retard the timing according to the instructions in the nitrous kit. i do suggest a fuel pump upgrade tho, it's cheap insurance @ 100 bucks also not mandatory but i'd get a colder set of plugs for a little bit of added insurance ( autolite 24s ) __________________ " Spending money I don't have.... on things I don't need .... to impress people I don't know " .

November 8th, 2008, 08:47 AM	#7
sixxxshoooter Regular 1989 Mustang Gt 5.0 n/a Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greensboro Posts: 322 iTrader: 0 reviews	Would there be any tuning necessary? Or could you just run colder plugs, fuel upgrade and a 150(wet or dry) shot and your good? __________________ 302, Cobra upper and Lower Intake,UDP's,BBK Shorties with Flow Dumps, SMog Delete,CAI, 70mm TB, K&N Filter, Timing 14 degrees, Lowered 1.5, 3.73's, Nitto Dr's. "Its not that there is ever too much Horsepower, but not enough traction."

November 8th, 2008, 01:11 PM	#8
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,559 iTrader: 0 reviews	take out 6 degrees of timing (2degrees per 50hp of nitrous=6 degrees for 150shot)get a walbro 255lph intank fuel pump for extra insurance and 1-2 step colder sparkplugs.now if you still have the factory 1993 pistons just hope they stay together __________________ Heres a real funny video youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I VTEC stands for Very Torqueless Economy Car Honda stands for Hold On Not Done Accelerating 1991 LX 5.0 H/B(T-70 turbo coming soon)

November 8th, 2008, 01:17 PM	#9
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,559 iTrader: 0 reviews	also whats a motor block? i didnt know 5.0s ran on electricity maybe it was a secret option when you bought the car.motors are electric. __________________ Heres a real funny video youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I VTEC stands for Very Torqueless Economy Car Honda stands for Hold On Not Done Accelerating 1991 LX 5.0 H/B(T-70 turbo coming soon)

November 8th, 2008, 02:24 PM	#10
Hunt_chevs Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Gt Not Slow Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SJ-CA, 50-ft elev. Posts: 1,649 iTrader: 1 reviews	a bone stock 302 can handle upwards of a 150 shot no probs __________________ 2k2 Gt Eibach pro kit, bbk cold air, exhaust, 4.10s, 6k hid's

November 8th, 2008, 02:39 PM	#11
Justincredible RIP Justincredible! God Speed Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ky Posts: 523 iTrader: 0 reviews	I ran a 200 shot on my 170,000 mile 5.0 with a TFS top end kit and had no issues for well over a year, going to the track every weekend. Even better....I sold that short block to a college kid who put it in a daily driver that he built on the cheap...and to the best of my knowledge...it's still going. The key to longevity with nitrous is to have a good tune, use good fuel, a good fuel pump, dont get greedy with the timing, and check your plugs often. __________________ 9.91@ 134mph 1/4 - 6.17@ 109mph 1/8th - 1.33 60' - Stock ECU & Stock Suspension......and getting faster . BIVENS RACE CARS FTMFW!!!

November 9th, 2008, 05:42 PM	#16
gotn20 Atomized Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,370 iTrader: 0 reviews	Dude I had 188,000 mile on my stock motor with over 20 bottle of nitrous with probably 10 of those at a 200 shot. I had zero problems. My motor did give but I was crusing down the freeway when it did. So i did a ghetto build for now hci, and a stock forged rotating assembly all together with new rings bearing gasket's i spent like 300 bucks on the rebuild. So far I've put 8 bottles of nitrous with a 200 shot on the re ringed motor with zero issues.

November 9th, 2008, 08:35 PM	#17
93lx306dev Regular 1993 ford mustang lx 302 13.2 @ 104mph Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 173 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok i changed my mind i am gonna get a supercharger!!!! what is the max boost that i can run on a stock block? what should i have for compression to run 10 to 15 pounds of boost? __________________ FORD = FOUND ON ROAD DOMINATING www.myspace.com/stangdevin

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