automatic swap

brokebp417 · November 15th, 2009, 04:37 PM

i have a 95 cobra that im swapping an aod into. i know ill need a flex plate torque converter i need to know what else i might need, and the length of the shifter cable if anyone knows

thanks

(420 lbft of trq and wc t-5 equals BOOM)

ReverendDexter · November 15th, 2009, 04:40 PM

<cough>T56</cough>

Cobras shouldn't have autos

Are you doing AOD, or AOD-E? If it's the -E (or a 4R70/4R70W), you'll need the ECU and whatever wiring goes to the tranny.

brokebp417 · November 15th, 2009, 04:42 PM

i plan on running in 7.0 class and i cant bracket race with a t56 of any manual as well as i can with an automatic
and its an aod no electronics needed

fastgtfairlane · November 15th, 2009, 11:03 PM

is the wiring harness the same?

2002BLGT · November 16th, 2009, 10:42 AM

if you must destroy the cobra drag racing it , might as well put a C4 in it

ReverendDexter · November 16th, 2009, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by 2002BLGT

if you must destroy the cobra drag racing it , might as well put a C4 in it

AOD's are stronger than C4s, aren't they? I mean, stock C4s here, not purpose-built drag racing C4s.

Bullitt95 · November 16th, 2009, 12:24 PM

If you're building your Cobra only for bracket racing, I suggest you go for a built AOD from Lentech. Yes, you'll need the flexplate and TC (get an upgraded higher stall version of that) and you'll also need the TV cable. To make the TV cable work properly you'll need to convert to a Fox throttle body/upper intake set-up.

fastgtfairlane · November 16th, 2009, 10:14 PM

if you are not driving it on the street much i would go with a built c4. will be equally as strong and is lighter and will take less power to turn it then an aod.

2002BLGT · November 17th, 2009, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

AOD's are stronger than C4s, aren't they? I mean, stock C4s here, not purpose-built drag racing C4s.

2 of my friends have ran stock C4s with a good stall to low 7s in the eighth on 175 shot , Ive never seen a stock AOD do that

acmillr · November 17th, 2009, 09:10 AM

Why would you use an AOD for racing purposes? Just wondering. Why not just go with a C4?

Bullitt95 · November 17th, 2009, 09:39 AM

A built C4 would be a good choice if the car is never going to cruise on the highway. It's much lighter than the AOD.

95StangMX · November 17th, 2009, 11:20 AM

go over to Click Click Racing and talk to dan (silverfox) he can tell you everything needed and he can build/get you the parts to build your aod to hold 700-1000HP

ReverendDexter · November 17th, 2009, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by 2002BLGT

2 of my friends have ran stock C4s with a good stall to low 7s in the eighth on 175 shot , Ive never seen a stock AOD do that

Is that because they blow up, or because they eat too much power?

My understanding is that the AOD is an FMX with OD, and that the FMX was the medium-duty transmission used in the 60s/70s between the light-duty C4 and heavy-duty C6. Based on that, I would think the AOD stronger. BUT, that's just theory and conjecture, not based on any actual experience with pushing either tranny to the limit.

brokebp417 · December 2nd, 2009, 01:27 PM

the aod i have is built for 900hp 700trq no breaking that one i have a 3600 stall and i plan to drive this car alot so overdrive is a must

brokebp417 · December 2nd, 2009, 01:30 PM

and im 20 years old ive spent all my life savings and more this car to get the motor right so now im in the process of breaking and rebuilding my drivetrain... sorry cobra purist... but the ultimate plan for my car is a 400rwhp all motor 347 that revs to 8000 rpm with a irs out of an 03 04 cobra and a t56... track day car

95StangMX · December 2nd, 2009, 01:35 PM

8000 grand huh? and 400 on a stroker is ok but with the right combo you should make more and not have to go near 8000 rpms. What mods do you have now?

ReverendDexter · December 2nd, 2009, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by brokebp417

and im 20 years old ive spent all my life savings and more this car to get the motor right so now im in the process of breaking and rebuilding my drivetrain... sorry cobra purist... but the ultimate plan for my car is a 400rwhp all motor 347 that revs to 8000 rpm with a irs out of an 03 04 cobra and a t56... track day car

If that's your ultimate goal, why swap an auto in it now? And why would you want the IRS, when you could have a 3-link setup that's stronger, lighter, AND handles better?

brokebp417 · December 20th, 2009, 04:05 PM

trick flow topend and f303 longtbes amd i want irs to say i did it not really for a specific purpose

November 15th, 2009, 04:37 PM	#1
brokebp417 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 35 iTrader: 0 reviews	automatic swap i have a 95 cobra that im swapping an aod into. i know ill need a flex plate torque converter i need to know what else i might need, and the length of the shifter cable if anyone knows thanks (420 lbft of trq and wc t-5 equals BOOM)

November 15th, 2009, 04:40 PM	#2
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	<cough>T56</cough> Cobras shouldn't have autos Are you doing AOD, or AOD-E? If it's the -E (or a 4R70/4R70W), you'll need the ECU and whatever wiring goes to the tranny. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

November 15th, 2009, 11:03 PM	#4
fastgtfairlane Regular 94 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: charlotte, nc Posts: 111 iTrader: 0 reviews	is the wiring harness the same? __________________ 94 gt- cobra bumper, 95 R hood, 98 cobra wheels, bbk equal lengths, DR GAS o/r X pipe, spintech prostreets, typhoon upper/lower, 65mm tb, 24lb injectors, 76mm mass air, homemade cai, msd 6a, pullies, steeda tri ax

November 16th, 2009, 12:24 PM	#7
Bullitt95 Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT auto 13.546 @ 105.32 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Al Ain, UAE Posts: 1,452 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you're building your Cobra only for bracket racing, I suggest you go for a built AOD from Lentech. Yes, you'll need the flexplate and TC (get an upgraded higher stall version of that) and you'll also need the TV cable. To make the TV cable work properly you'll need to convert to a Fox throttle body/upper intake set-up. __________________ 243.5rwhp/284.2rwtq Mod list in My Garage

November 16th, 2009, 10:14 PM	#8
fastgtfairlane Regular 94 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: charlotte, nc Posts: 111 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you are not driving it on the street much i would go with a built c4. will be equally as strong and is lighter and will take less power to turn it then an aod. __________________ 94 gt- cobra bumper, 95 R hood, 98 cobra wheels, bbk equal lengths, DR GAS o/r X pipe, spintech prostreets, typhoon upper/lower, 65mm tb, 24lb injectors, 76mm mass air, homemade cai, msd 6a, pullies, steeda tri ax

November 15th, 2009, 04:42 PM	#3
brokebp417 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 35 iTrader: 0 reviews	i plan on running in 7.0 class and i cant bracket race with a t56 of any manual as well as i can with an automatic and its an aod no electronics needed

November 16th, 2009, 10:42 AM	#5
2002BLGT Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bedford VA Posts: 837 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you must destroy the cobra drag racing it , might as well put a C4 in it

November 17th, 2009, 09:10 AM	#10
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,111 iTrader: 2 reviews	Why would you use an AOD for racing purposes? Just wondering. Why not just go with a C4? __________________

November 17th, 2009, 09:39 AM	#11
Bullitt95 Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT auto 13.546 @ 105.32 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Al Ain, UAE Posts: 1,452 iTrader: 0 reviews	A built C4 would be a good choice if the car is never going to cruise on the highway. It's much lighter than the AOD.

November 17th, 2009, 11:20 AM	#12
95StangMX MM Fanatic 95 Mustang GT depends how many people are pushing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 3,243 iTrader: 0 reviews	go over to Click Click Racing and talk to dan (silverfox) he can tell you everything needed and he can build/get you the parts to build your aod to hold 700-1000HP __________________ People should think about boarding up their glass house before starting a rock fight!

December 2nd, 2009, 01:27 PM	#14
brokebp417 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 35 iTrader: 0 reviews	the aod i have is built for 900hp 700trq no breaking that one i have a 3600 stall and i plan to drive this car alot so overdrive is a must

December 2nd, 2009, 01:30 PM	#15
brokebp417 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 35 iTrader: 0 reviews	and im 20 years old ive spent all my life savings and more this car to get the motor right so now im in the process of breaking and rebuilding my drivetrain... sorry cobra purist... but the ultimate plan for my car is a 400rwhp all motor 347 that revs to 8000 rpm with a irs out of an 03 04 cobra and a t56... track day car

December 2nd, 2009, 01:35 PM	#16
95StangMX MM Fanatic 95 Mustang GT depends how many people are pushing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 3,243 iTrader: 0 reviews	8000 grand huh? and 400 on a stroker is ok but with the right combo you should make more and not have to go near 8000 rpms. What mods do you have now? __________________ People should think about boarding up their glass house before starting a rock fight!

December 20th, 2009, 04:05 PM	#18
brokebp417 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 35 iTrader: 0 reviews	trick flow topend and f303 longtbes amd i want irs to say i did it not really for a specific purpose

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