[bradtheblade]

ok im shure this has been discused but i cant find it.so i keep being told to change to the older fox body computer and i would like all the info that i can find.i already know that it requires repinning the wire harness.at least thats what ive been told.any other info would be great.i can spin a wrench with the best of them but computers not capable of much more than the on button.lol

[94bossgt]

Why Would You Even Want To Bother Doin That You Wont Gain Anything Chip The Computer If You Want To Change Anything

[AdderMk2]

repinning to the old slow fox style ECM is stupid.. you can do just fine with the stock ECM with a tune.

[bradtheblade]

i was told that they can tune more out of the older computer and like i said i know scwat so i was just resurching all i could about it. i am sick of haveing to go get a tune every time i change something i think i spent more tunning than on speed parts.

[AdderMk2]

Originally Posted by bradtheblade i was told that they can tune more out of the older computer and like i said i know scwat so i was just resurching all i could about it. i am sick of haveing to go get a tune every time i change something i think i spent more tunning than on speed parts.

You dont need to get a tune every time you change a mod... whoever told you that is retarded.

also, ofcourse people think the old computer is better... Just because a carb can run just about anything, doesnt mean its the better option... same thing with the fox ECM's... why step back when you can get more out of the newer style systems

[1989Gt.]

i know this is off topic but can you even tune with sct or can you only chip these computers my friend has a 94 5.0 gt and he said he bought a sct programmer i said why you cant do anything with it. YOu can only chip is that true?

[AdderMk2]

you are correct. the SCT handheld tuners will not work with the SN-95 5.0 cars, as they are not OBD2.

the only self tuning options are the Moates Quarterhorse, Tweecer R/T, Anderson PMS (crap), AEM EMS, and the stand alone systems like Megasquirt, BigStuff3, SDS, FAST etc.

[1989Gt.]

Ok so unless he buys a whole new already tuned computer its not gonna work lol

[AdderMk2]

Originally Posted by 1989Gt. Ok so unless he buys a whole new already tuned computer its not gonna work lol

no.....

stop assuming and actually read what I posted...

ffs

[1989Gt.]

Plz calm yourself big guy i was just askin cause he doesnt understand and neither do i. So basically his only option is to tune chip or take it to a tuner

[bradtheblade]

i know i dont need to tune after everymode but im at the point of every mod is now a major change and i can only aford one peice at a time and still want to drive inbetween so i kinda do?yes or no.(by major i mean heads,cam,intake,injectorsand maf)

[AdderMk2]

Originally Posted by bradtheblade i know i dont need to tune after everymode but im at the point of every mod is now a major change and i can only aford one peice at a time and still want to drive inbetween so i kinda do?yes or no.(by major i mean heads,cam,intake,injectorsand maf)

I swapped my heads, cam, intake AND TB and still drove on the old tune before changing it.

If you arent changing the MAF, injectors, or size of the engine... the tune isnt going to change much.

[94bossgt]

like adder said you will never be able to use a programmer i have a sct eliminator chip t hat i would be willing to sell lol

[AdderMk2]

Originally Posted by 94bossgt like adder said you will never be able to use a programmer i have a sct eliminator chip t hat i would be willing to sell lol

why anyone would waste money on an SCT chip is beyond me. DO you even have a clue what kind of values are on that chip? I know I sure didnt when someone burned a chip for me.

Now that I am running a moates quarterhorse (imagine that, a programmer for our cars!) I know every value that is in my computer. And I can change every single one of them.

[95opal]

Originally Posted by AdderMk2 why anyone would waste money on an SCT chip is beyond me. DO you even have a clue what kind of values are on that chip?

well when you have the car dynotuned and arent using a programmer or standalone, the only way for the ecm to run that tune would be via chip. Do I know the values programmed, no I dont but I do trust the guy who tuned it. I think Don at lasotta racing is one of the top tuners in the country as far as the 94-95 t4mo goes. I couldnt be happier with the work he did for me. Remember using a self tuner or standalone takes time to learn and some people just arent cut out for it.

To the OP no need to tune after every mod. do your HCI upgrade injectors and have it tuned by a reputable tuner. If your not familiar with how the ecm works or how to manipulate its functions you are asking fora ton of leg work before you can begin to tune your own car.

[deeppurple95]

Originally Posted by AdderMk2 You dont need to get a tune every time you change a mod... whoever told you that is retarded. also, ofcourse people think the old computer is better... Just because a carb can run just about anything, doesnt mean its the better option... same thing with the fox ECM's... why step back when you can get more out of the newer style systems

+1 LOVE the second part of that, as well as the first, but second more. It reminds me of a conversation my dad and i had when i first picked up my 95 5.0L.

As has been mentioned, we cant just handheld tune the 94-95 because OBDII is not on them, and chips are... about as useful for a car as the crunchy ones Frito-Lay makes. I am choosing between a Tweecer R/T and the Quarterhorse. I like the quaterhorse, It seems more of a "all in one deal", for what I want to do

What I want to do is be able to tune my own car, know the values, and datalog so i can fine tune and just know what the car is doing. so, which of these systems would be better for that, or are they equal? I'm looking for peoples opinions based on what the have in their own ride.

[AdderMk2]

Quarterhorse, end of story. Ive had a tweecer R/T, and I prefer my QH

[deeppurple95]

yeah. just did a lil more research about using it and everything... looks like the QH is easier to use regardless, so thats what im leaning towards...

Now, I just gotta save up for it on a a college budget. Beer, or zoom... that is the question.

P.S., love the rims on your SN95, Adder. what are they?

[AdderMk2]

Originally Posted by deeppurple95 yeah. just did a lil more research about using it and everything... looks like the QH is easier to use regardless, so thats what im leaning towards... Now, I just gotta save up for it on a a college budget. Beer, or zoom... that is the question. P.S., love the rims on your SN95, Adder. what are they?

15" prostars

[bradtheblade]

ok so where do i buy this quarterhorse programer at. see the prob i have is i am aleays switching from nos to boost to both trying to find out witch way i like my car to act for me.i know its like a dog chasing its tail but i am always looking for the performance carictoristics i want.the only way to find it is to try diff set ups and thus have to retune all the time.