[stang94]

Originally Posted by Bullitt95 Stock is ~190-195rwhp on a 5-speed 5.0 GT. With basic bolt-ons (CAI, MAF, TB, headers, midpipe, catbacks, pulleys) you'll have ~230-235rwhp. You won't get beyond 235rwhp with the stock heads/cam/intake so to reach 300rwhp, you'll need to change at least 2 out of the 3 (heads & intake). You'll also need other supporting mods like a higher-flow fuel pump, bigger injectors, and a tune.

What he said... keep in mind you will need some suspension work also.

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Holley 24lbs Injector
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[95StangMX]

with light mods like that you should not need to change the fuel pump or the injectors 19's will be fine for mild heads and intake....

[MikeD05GT]

when you get your mods...the tune is the key to the power gains...

[95StangMX]

Originally Posted by stang94 What he said... keep in mind you will need some suspension work also. Personal Note: I got for sale: All Parts are NEW. New BBK 75 TB MM For sale. Holley 24lbs Injector BBK Full Lenght SubFrame Connector w/seat support

he said goal is to make 300 HP he didnt say anything about his goal 1/4 times or traction...how does suspension work help him to acheive 300HP? LOL...just messing witih you bro

Originally Posted by jlaw98gt when you get your mods...the tune is the key to the power gains...

+1 but its not necessary with just minor mods wait and tune it when you feel like you have done most of your major mods tuning takes every little detail into consideration

[stang94]

Originally Posted by 95StangMX he said goal is to make 300 HP he didnt say anything about his goal 1/4 times or traction...how does suspension work help him to acheive 300HP? LOL...just messing witih you bro

He'll need some better control of that car with 300hp lol. I'm sure he's not going to keep it to say I have 300 HP and not use it..

[MikeD05GT]

yea only tune when you get major mods...like full exhaust...intake...heads and cams...s/c obviously

[Bullitt95]

Originally Posted by 95StangMX with light mods like that you should not need to change the fuel pump or the injectors 19's will be fine for mild heads and intake....

With basic bolt-ons and stock HCI, that's correct. If you do ported E7s/ported factory intake (as I did), the 19lb injectors are still OK but the stock fuel pump will be close to the limit, so it's better to upgrade it before doing HCI so the engine doesn't run lean and detonate under WOT at higher rpm.
Larger injectors and a chip tune aren't necessary until you get into HCI mods, forced induction, or a stroker build.

[95FiveOh]

Easiest way to get a sure 300rwhp is by putting together your own h/c/i kit. The most proven one would be a set of AFR 165 heads, a custom cam from Ed Curtis at FTI (Flowtech Induction) and a decent intake such as Edelbrock Performer, Trick Flow Street Heat, ported Cobra, Holley, etc. Combine this with all the bolt-ons and supporting mods such as injectors, mass-air, and a good tune and you can easily see 300+ rwhp. Some have even seen 315-320rwhp on stock shortblocks with great drivability.

[MikeD05GT]

^^ sounds like a plan

[kpoirot]

Trickflow top end kit alone should get ya there. But its $2500 just for the parts. Also go with a Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch, great pedal feel and awesome hold! Have fun building just like I am!.

[Bullitt95]

Originally Posted by kpoirot Trickflow top end kit alone should get ya there. But its $2500 just for the parts.

...and it doesn't end there. With H/C/I, you'll also need the following supporting mods:

Larger injectors ~$350
Higher flow fuel pump ~$150
Tweecer RT self-tuner ~$500
Higher stall torque converter ~$500

So the true cost of doing the H/C/I conversion is going to be ~$3500 on a manual GT (more if you upgrade clutch/tranny), and ~$4000 on an automatic GT, and that doesn't include labor costs.

[95StangMX]

Originally Posted by 95FiveOh Easiest way to get a sure 300rwhp is by putting together your own h/c/i kit. The most proven one would be a set of AFR 165 heads, a custom cam from Ed Curtis at FTI (Flowtech Induction) and a decent intake such as Edelbrock Performer, Trick Flow Street Heat, ported Cobra, Holley, etc. Combine this with all the bolt-ons and supporting mods such as injectors, mass-air, and a good tune and you can easily see 300+ rwhp. Some have even seen 315-320rwhp on stock shortblocks with great drivability.

can you please tell me where the hell you get the bs that you put in this post....easiest way to get a sure 300 HP is not to put together your own especially if you are not experienced with the parts first hand and only know what you have heard...a mismatched top end set made up of the most expensive parts out there can be wrong for you car and make it run like shit....I suggest talk to some people about the setups they run or buy one that is already matched up.. trickflows set is nice and simple and is all matched up for you... and what makes the AFR 165's the most proven and do you have a cam from ed curtis....why would you suggest him over Jay and camshaft innovations....because of experience with them or because of what you have read....I am running TFS heads and a cam from jay ....should have it together some time this week and will post up some numbers for you... the builder is guessing somewhere around 450

[95StangMX]

sorry not trying to sound like a prick but so many people get on here an post info that they have read in a magazine... and thats a quick way to blow some money....and as far as the cam I personally have not dealt with ed .... I have heard that he is pretty good.. I actually called him first and he was kinda rude told me once I knew all the specs to call back and hung up....if you are going with a simple top end then a package like the trick flow is a great setup....you could scrap the cam and get a custom grind for a few more ponies or use the one it comes with for now and if you decide to do more mods down the road then go custom grind....talk to some people on here about what they are running before you jump into anything

[Bullitt95]

Whatever the argument, the bottom line is that 235rwhp (210rwhp if you have an AODE) is the ceiling for basic bolt-on mods with stock H/C/I. To get 300+rwhp, you'll need to change at least the heads and intake (it's still achievable with the stock cam). TFS, Edelbrock, and Holley have matched heads/cam/intake kits while AFR only do heads so you have to match the cam and intake to them. You can put together your own combination but that doesn't guarantee 300+rwhp nor a good-running engine unless you've done some thorough research so you know what you're getting into. It is here where 95StangMX makes a very valid point.