5.0 Swap

Black04Sixxer · January 4th, 2012, 11:23 AM

Hi guys,
I am still new to the forums, so bear with me. Anyways, I've had my 04 v6 for a year now and I love it, but I dont love the power. Ive added bolt ons, but I now think that spending money on an 8 would be more sensible than adding these bolt ons. Sure some say just go buy an 8, but this car is special to me. Recently, I befreinded someone who has done 20+ swaps, countless turbos, and even built a factory five cobra. He wants to help me do a swap eventually and I plan to buy a wrecked 94-95 gt with the 5.0L for the swap. I have one in mind with a rebuilt tranny, full exhaust and multiple other bolt ons. I researched for months and this seems to be the best way to go about doing it. I am just looking to see what I would need from the donor car for my car. I know the main things, but the small things is what I need to know. I am on a limited budget, but could get a donor car for around 500. also would everything from the 94 fit on the 04? I am looking to learn from this expirence and may even pass it off as a school project. I was thinking maybe switching everything, the motor and tranny, computer, wiring, and maybe even the rear end. we have a lift, an engine hoist and all the tools, I'm just wondering is this particular swap the sensible thing to do, and what is it that I need from the old car.

6ixer · January 4th, 2012, 11:35 AM

If your friend is all knowing as he is (and I'm not being sarcastic) and you have your money and some time then go for it if you get a donor car you have won half the battle the rest is just pacients, take ur time. With the donor car you have everything .....its just a matter of oh this goes there so this must go over hear

mustangmike! · January 4th, 2012, 11:45 AM

gl man !! sounds fun, green will be in sooner or later and help alot. He done like 351 swap or some shit.

I def say do it. Ignore the "oh the 5.0 only had like 205hp and our V6 has 190'' BS comments that people make. HP is just a damn number. People still haven't learned that based on 'hondas' by now though ... the difference in power curve, and tq is huge! Parts are everywhere for them. And its a simple plat form to work on (as is our V6) but you'll enjoy camming and doing some intakes on a 302 that put you well over the 250ish whp N/A limit.

As for the info your 04 rear is wider than a 94-98 I believe. so you might need spacers or a 99+ 8.8.

GreenMustang00 · January 4th, 2012, 02:56 PM

If you are going fuel injection then get a 94-95 donor car(If you can find one for dirt cheap). I figured if I am going to throw a 5.0 in I would just do a 351w swap since it is essentially the same motor. I then bought a stroker crank and it is a 393 lol.

It all depends on your budget to be honest. The hardest part for me to find seems to be the 94-95 bellhousing and input shaft for my world class t5 transmission. Getting a donor car you will not run into this issue.

I read that you are asking about the rearend. the 94-98 rearends are 1-2 inches more narrow than our 99-04s

mustangs4life · January 4th, 2012, 04:51 PM

I'm going to do the same thing man! I am looking for a donor car at the moment. I have just been watching cl but as soon as it warms up some I'm gonna hit the junk yards and see what I can find. I have heard it shouldn't be to hard, I actually have a thread about it on here. I'm pretty excited to get mine going. If you can afford it, I would definitely see if your friend could help you do some internal work on the engine. I plan on doing that to my 5.0 sooner or later. Probably later though

Cricket · January 5th, 2012, 09:46 PM

This would be more suitable for the 5.0 guys to answer for you since you won't have a v6 in the bay anymore.

mustangmike! · January 5th, 2012, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cricket

This would be more suitable for the 5.0 guys to answer for you since you won't have a v6 in the bay anymore.

50/50

Black04Sixxer · January 6th, 2012, 12:04 AM

Thanks guys, I'm still in high school and need to complete a senior project, and I think I've found the perfect one. Its all a matter of money though. (Its not a bad deal, this senior project, I get to leave school three months early to work on my car lol) I really want to learn stuff like this, being my first car its a little ambitious, but I think if I can learn early I can do other swaps and bigger things. Yeah my friend has had 4 302's in his garage at once for his FF...lol. I just want something easy and cheap that will help me learn something, hopefully I can find a decently cheap donor car...

mustangmaniac95 · January 6th, 2012, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Black04Sixxer

Hi guys,
I am still new to the forums, so bear with me. Anyways, I've had my 04 v6 for a year now and I love it, but I dont love the power. Ive added bolt ons, but I now think that spending money on an 8 would be more sensible than adding these bolt ons. Sure some say just go buy an 8, but this car is special to me. Recently, I befreinded someone who has done 20+ swaps, countless turbos, and even built a factory five cobra. He wants to help me do a swap eventually and I plan to buy a wrecked 94-95 gt with the 5.0L for the swap. I have one in mind with a rebuilt tranny, full exhaust and multiple other bolt ons. I researched for months and this seems to be the best way to go about doing it. I am just looking to see what I would need from the donor car for my car. I know the main things, but the small things is what I need to know. I am on a limited budget, but could get a donor car for around 500. also would everything from the 94 fit on the 04? I am looking to learn from this expirence and may even pass it off as a school project. I was thinking maybe switching everything, the motor and tranny, computer, wiring, and maybe even the rear end. we have a lift, an engine hoist and all the tools, I'm just wondering is this particular swap the sensible thing to do, and what is it that I need from the old car.

i know this is really far away from you but was just looking for parts and saw this..has quite a bit of miles on it tho

Mustang 5.0L motor and AODE trans

mustangmike! · January 6th, 2012, 01:02 AM

well your first big step is deciding if you want EFI or carb.

Then type, hydrolic roller, flat tappet ... that kinda stuff

Personally, nothing against carbs, but I wont go with them unless its maybe a pure race car.

In your case id go with a 94-5 GT 5.0 set up if it were me. But its all up to you man.

But I will say this be carefull turning wrenches and learning on your DD. I did that and didn't have my DD for 6 months ... one project failed and I tore the engine out and did a build instead of sticking with what I had is the reason it took so long. But still, always have a spare you can count of if your gonna start playing with shit...

Black04Sixxer · January 6th, 2012, 01:06 AM

1994 Ford Mustang GT
Found this, dont know if its too far gone but ill have to check it out. rebuilt tranny is a plus. Though I may just buy from a local junkyard where Ive found some 94s in the range of $350-450.

mustangmike! · January 6th, 2012, 03:27 AM

500 for that and 500 for a shell.

Im sure that idiot expects more then that for that car though ...

94bossgt · January 16th, 2012, 03:52 PM

if you get the donor car your golden all you have to do is strip the harness out of the 94 the k member unless your getting a tubular one and the engine trans rad you may be able to make the fuel lines on your car work keep your rear and just regear it the exhaust will work from the 94 and of course the comp

94bossgt · January 16th, 2012, 03:53 PM

it wont be easy or quick but deff will be worth it once you start modding it

94bossgt · January 16th, 2012, 03:54 PM

o and if you have a lift at your disposale you can always leave the engine attached to the kmember just unbolt it form the car and bolt it in yours

99FiveOh · January 18th, 2012, 08:44 AM

I did this swap on my 99 last year. Here's a how to thread I made: Project: Swapping 94 Gt drivetrain to 1999 V6 Vert chassis | Mustang Forums at StangNet

I have a thread on this site too but it's not as detailed as the on I linked above. My swap only took a couple weeks, it's basically just remove and replace. The only wiring I had to splice was for the electric seat believe it or not.

All in all my project turned out nice! I love it when people don't believe me that there's a 5.0 sitting in the car and I get to show them! If you have any questions I'll be glad to help.

Black04Sixxer · April 23rd, 2012, 03:10 PM

mustang gt40 motor complete this is wicked cheap, should I go for it?

GreenMustang00 · April 23rd, 2012, 10:37 PM

why not

nkausch · April 24th, 2012, 10:47 AM

Do it. That's a good deal

January 4th, 2012, 11:23 AM	#1
Black04Sixxer Newbie 2004 Mustang V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 reviews	5.0 Swap Hi guys, I am still new to the forums, so bear with me. Anyways, I've had my 04 v6 for a year now and I love it, but I dont love the power. Ive added bolt ons, but I now think that spending money on an 8 would be more sensible than adding these bolt ons. Sure some say just go buy an 8, but this car is special to me. Recently, I befreinded someone who has done 20+ swaps, countless turbos, and even built a factory five cobra. He wants to help me do a swap eventually and I plan to buy a wrecked 94-95 gt with the 5.0L for the swap. I have one in mind with a rebuilt tranny, full exhaust and multiple other bolt ons. I researched for months and this seems to be the best way to go about doing it. I am just looking to see what I would need from the donor car for my car. I know the main things, but the small things is what I need to know. I am on a limited budget, but could get a donor car for around 500. also would everything from the 94 fit on the 04? I am looking to learn from this expirence and may even pass it off as a school project. I was thinking maybe switching everything, the motor and tranny, computer, wiring, and maybe even the rear end. we have a lift, an engine hoist and all the tools, I'm just wondering is this particular swap the sensible thing to do, and what is it that I need from the old car.

January 4th, 2012, 11:35 AM	#2
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,566 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	If your friend is all knowing as he is (and I'm not being sarcastic) and you have your money and some time then go for it if you get a donor car you have won half the battle the rest is just pacients, take ur time. With the donor car you have everything .....its just a matter of oh this goes there so this must go over hear __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

January 4th, 2012, 11:45 AM	#3
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,936 iTrader: 1 reviews	gl man !! sounds fun, green will be in sooner or later and help alot. He done like 351 swap or some shit. I def say do it. Ignore the "oh the 5.0 only had like 205hp and our V6 has 190'' BS comments that people make. HP is just a damn number. People still haven't learned that based on 'hondas' by now though ... the difference in power curve, and tq is huge! Parts are everywhere for them. And its a simple plat form to work on (as is our V6) but you'll enjoy camming and doing some intakes on a 302 that put you well over the 250ish whp N/A limit. As for the info your 04 rear is wider than a 94-98 I believe. so you might need spacers or a 99+ 8.8. __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

January 4th, 2012, 02:56 PM	#4
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	If you are going fuel injection then get a 94-95 donor car(If you can find one for dirt cheap). I figured if I am going to throw a 5.0 in I would just do a 351w swap since it is essentially the same motor. I then bought a stroker crank and it is a 393 lol. It all depends on your budget to be honest. The hardest part for me to find seems to be the 94-95 bellhousing and input shaft for my world class t5 transmission. Getting a donor car you will not run into this issue. I read that you are asking about the rearend. the 94-98 rearends are 1-2 inches more narrow than our 99-04s __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

January 6th, 2012, 01:02 AM	#10
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,936 iTrader: 1 reviews	well your first big step is deciding if you want EFI or carb. Then type, hydrolic roller, flat tappet ... that kinda stuff Personally, nothing against carbs, but I wont go with them unless its maybe a pure race car. In your case id go with a 94-5 GT 5.0 set up if it were me. But its all up to you man. But I will say this be carefull turning wrenches and learning on your DD. I did that and didn't have my DD for 6 months ... one project failed and I tore the engine out and did a build instead of sticking with what I had is the reason it took so long. But still, always have a spare you can count of if your gonna start playing with shit... __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

January 4th, 2012, 04:51 PM	#5
mustangs4life Regular 1998 mustang V6 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 141 iTrader: 1 reviews	I'm going to do the same thing man! I am looking for a donor car at the moment. I have just been watching cl but as soon as it warms up some I'm gonna hit the junk yards and see what I can find. I have heard it shouldn't be to hard, I actually have a thread about it on here. I'm pretty excited to get mine going. If you can afford it, I would definitely see if your friend could help you do some internal work on the engine. I plan on doing that to my 5.0 sooner or later. Probably later though

January 6th, 2012, 12:04 AM	#8
Black04Sixxer Newbie 2004 Mustang V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks guys, I'm still in high school and need to complete a senior project, and I think I've found the perfect one. Its all a matter of money though. (Its not a bad deal, this senior project, I get to leave school three months early to work on my car lol) I really want to learn stuff like this, being my first car its a little ambitious, but I think if I can learn early I can do other swaps and bigger things. Yeah my friend has had 4 302's in his garage at once for his FF...lol. I just want something easy and cheap that will help me learn something, hopefully I can find a decently cheap donor car...

January 6th, 2012, 01:06 AM	#11
Black04Sixxer Newbie 2004 Mustang V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 reviews	1994 Ford Mustang GT Found this, dont know if its too far gone but ill have to check it out. rebuilt tranny is a plus. Though I may just buy from a local junkyard where Ive found some 94s in the range of $350-450.

January 6th, 2012, 03:27 AM	#12
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,936 iTrader: 1 reviews	500 for that and 500 for a shell. Im sure that idiot expects more then that for that car though ... __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

January 16th, 2012, 03:52 PM	#13
94bossgt Regular 94 mustang gt too slow to tell Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: northampton pa Posts: 233 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you get the donor car your golden all you have to do is strip the harness out of the 94 the k member unless your getting a tubular one and the engine trans rad you may be able to make the fuel lines on your car work keep your rear and just regear it the exhaust will work from the 94 and of course the comp

January 16th, 2012, 03:53 PM	#14
94bossgt Regular 94 mustang gt too slow to tell Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: northampton pa Posts: 233 iTrader: 0 reviews	it wont be easy or quick but deff will be worth it once you start modding it

January 16th, 2012, 03:54 PM	#15
94bossgt Regular 94 mustang gt too slow to tell Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: northampton pa Posts: 233 iTrader: 0 reviews	o and if you have a lift at your disposale you can always leave the engine attached to the kmember just unbolt it form the car and bolt it in yours

January 18th, 2012, 08:44 AM	#16
99FiveOh Regular 1999 Mustang Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 204 iTrader: 0 reviews	I did this swap on my 99 last year. Here's a how to thread I made: Project: Swapping 94 Gt drivetrain to 1999 V6 Vert chassis \| Mustang Forums at StangNet I have a thread on this site too but it's not as detailed as the on I linked above. My swap only took a couple weeks, it's basically just remove and replace. The only wiring I had to splice was for the electric seat believe it or not. All in all my project turned out nice! I love it when people don't believe me that there's a 5.0 sitting in the car and I get to show them! If you have any questions I'll be glad to help. __________________ 1999 V6 Vert converted to 5.0 EFI with Vortech V2 SQ, Edelbrock Performer intake, BBK shorties, O/R H, Flowmasters, 42lb injectors, 75mm Pro-M with MAFia extender, 255lph fuel pump. SCT tuned 370 rwhp 400 rwtq.

April 23rd, 2012, 03:10 PM	#17
Black04Sixxer Newbie 2004 Mustang V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 reviews	mustang gt40 motor complete this is wicked cheap, should I go for it?

April 23rd, 2012, 10:37 PM	#18
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	why not __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

April 24th, 2012, 10:47 AM	#19
nkausch Enthusiast 94 Mustang Gt Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Central, NJ Posts: 568 iTrader: 0 reviews	Do it. That's a good deal __________________ 94 Mustang Gt Vert-Mods: Tubular Headers, BBK Catted X, SLP Loudmouth 2's, EGR Delete

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