Potential

scxc15 · January 23rd, 2008, 11:13 PM

Why are the 1995 5.0 engines only pushing out 215 horsepower? Even thugh they only have 215 hp I've heard the reacted very well to mods and it's really easy to get power out of them.....

Bullitt95 · January 24th, 2008, 01:12 PM

The reason why the stock 5.0 only puts out 215hp is because the intake system, heads, and exhaust system are so restrictive that the engine cannot breathe. The same low output (makes you wonder why Ford called it a High Output engine) is the reason why it responds so well to simple bolt-on modifications. Uncorking the engine so it can breathe is an easy route to more HP/TQ so if you're not interested in forced induction or building a stroker, the traditional hotrodder's bolt-on mods are the way to go.

Goblin · January 24th, 2008, 03:32 PM

I can assure you these engines are actually producing more than 215bhp. 215 is just a rating.

scxc15 · January 24th, 2008, 03:52 PM

They can't be putting out much more cause a 99-04 V6 with a good driver can beat it and it's rated at 190.

Goblin · January 24th, 2008, 04:40 PM

That honestly means nothing. I can beat a stock 95' GT with a bone stock 98' Integra TR.. does that mean the ITR is producing more power? Heck no.. you cant compare the two based on drivers. 94-95 GTs are rated at 215bhp with 300lb-ft of torque. They actually make closer to 260bhp. Ford under-rates most of their high-end performance cars, this is old news.

Bullitt95 · January 26th, 2008, 04:19 PM

260hp? You wish. Most stock SN95 5.0's with a T5 put down about 190-195hp at the rear wheels, so that's equivalent to about 220-225hp at the flywheel. Perhaps Ford did underrate the 5.0 at 215hp but only slightly.

Goblin · January 26th, 2008, 05:56 PM

My math was a little off (thats what i get for doing it in my head). Assuming 15% of the engines power is lost in the drivetrain... 225-230bhp is the corrected number. My apologies.

Tscape16 · January 27th, 2008, 05:11 PM

If you put a CAI and full exhaust on those SN95s, aka bolt-ons...you'll probably free up 30-40hp. My friend has a 1995 GT w/ Mid-Lengths, FlowMaster Catback, !Cat, CAI, MAF work, 3.73s along with a King Cobra Clutch and he was running pretty even with stock LT1 F-Bodies. Puts ya in the 270hp range.

burnout5.0 · January 28th, 2008, 02:57 AM

are you aware that this is a mustang forum?

Tscape16 · January 28th, 2008, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by burnout5.0

are you aware that this is a mustang forum?

Thank you captain obvious.

95blackbeauty · January 28th, 2008, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Tscape16

If you put a CAI and full exhaust on those SN95s, aka bolt-ons...you'll probably free up 30-40hp. My friend has a 1995 GT w/ Mid-Lengths, FlowMaster Catback, !Cat, CAI, MAF work, 3.73s along with a King Cobra Clutch and he was running pretty even with stock LT1 F-Bodies. Puts ya in the 270hp range.

Im not sure that those mods will give that much of a horsepower gain...

Bullitt95 · January 28th, 2008, 10:51 AM

If you bolt on a CAI, MAF, TB, pulleys, headers, midpipe, and catbacks onto a bone stock 5.0 long block, you should have about 230-235rwhp (~40rwhp gain over stock) or 265-270hp at the crank. Crane Cobra 1.7 roller rockers add a further ~5hp so you could match the 275hp output of a stock LT1 and still have the stock 5.0 heads/cam/intake.

95blackbeauty · January 28th, 2008, 11:06 AM

ahh. Wasnt thinking Crank hp...my bad.

Tscape16 · January 28th, 2008, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by 95blackbeauty

ahh. Wasnt thinking Crank hp...my bad.

Yeah, 220-235rwhp....270-280hp.

Goblin · January 28th, 2008, 11:37 AM

Way off subject... 97 WS6 had the LT1, right?

Tscape16 · January 28th, 2008, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Goblin

Way off subject... 97 WS6 had the LT1, right?

You would be correct. Mine will be pretty much an LT4 after this summer...if my funds come rollin' in.

Goblin · January 28th, 2008, 12:08 PM

Right on. Buddy of mine had a 97 WS6, but his had a built LS1. I wasnt completely sure if they came with LS1s, or LT1s.

Tscape16 · January 28th, 2008, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Goblin

Right on. Buddy of mine had a 97 WS6, but his had a built LS1. I wasnt completely sure if they came with LS1s, or LT1s.

Yep, LS1s started in '98....and are marked by a re-designed front bumper/fenders with a 'double hood-scoop look' on the WS.6s.

I'm old school and love the LT1 though...and I can only afford a WS.6 that is an LT1. Don't see as many of them too so car shows are that much more fun, lol!

Goblin · January 28th, 2008, 12:39 PM

Very cool. I havent seen many people show nearly as much interest in LT1s as those with LS style engines. I like all the WS6s looks wise, they're some damn good looking cars IMO. I like the LS powerplants too, they respond so well to minor additions... LT1 and LT4s are sweet motors in my book too.

flamedstang95 · January 28th, 2008, 01:57 PM

Why are we talking about junk? Nobody cares about firechickens or crapmaros. Go to one of their forums and talk about that crap.

January 23rd, 2008, 11:13 PM	#1
scxc15 Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 12.7@107 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 819 iTrader: 1 reviews	Potential Why are the 1995 5.0 engines only pushing out 215 horsepower? Even thugh they only have 215 hp I've heard the reacted very well to mods and it's really easy to get power out of them.....

January 24th, 2008, 01:12 PM	#2
Bullitt95 Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT auto 13.36 @ 105.0 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Al Ain, UAE Posts: 1,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	The reason why the stock 5.0 only puts out 215hp is because the intake system, heads, and exhaust system are so restrictive that the engine cannot breathe. The same low output (makes you wonder why Ford called it a High Output engine) is the reason why it responds so well to simple bolt-on modifications. Uncorking the engine so it can breathe is an easy route to more HP/TQ so if you're not interested in forced induction or building a stroker, the traditional hotrodder's bolt-on mods are the way to go. __________________ 244whp/284wtq Mod list in My Garage

January 24th, 2008, 03:32 PM	#3
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	I can assure you these engines are actually producing more than 215bhp. 215 is just a rating. __________________

January 24th, 2008, 04:40 PM	#5
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	That honestly means nothing. I can beat a stock 95' GT with a bone stock 98' Integra TR.. does that mean the ITR is producing more power? Heck no.. you cant compare the two based on drivers. 94-95 GTs are rated at 215bhp with 300lb-ft of torque. They actually make closer to 260bhp. Ford under-rates most of their high-end performance cars, this is old news. __________________

January 26th, 2008, 04:19 PM	#6
Bullitt95 Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT auto 13.36 @ 105.0 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Al Ain, UAE Posts: 1,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	260hp? You wish. Most stock SN95 5.0's with a T5 put down about 190-195hp at the rear wheels, so that's equivalent to about 220-225hp at the flywheel. Perhaps Ford did underrate the 5.0 at 215hp but only slightly. __________________ 244whp/284wtq Mod list in My Garage

January 24th, 2008, 03:52 PM	#4
scxc15 Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 12.7@107 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 819 iTrader: 1 reviews	They can't be putting out much more cause a 99-04 V6 with a good driver can beat it and it's rated at 190.

January 26th, 2008, 05:56 PM	#7
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	My math was a little off (thats what i get for doing it in my head). Assuming 15% of the engines power is lost in the drivetrain... 225-230bhp is the corrected number. My apologies. __________________

January 27th, 2008, 05:11 PM	#8
Tscape16 Regular 2001 WS.6 Trans Am 13.1 @ 109...shes got 12s Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 99 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you put a CAI and full exhaust on those SN95s, aka bolt-ons...you'll probably free up 30-40hp. My friend has a 1995 GT w/ Mid-Lengths, FlowMaster Catback, !Cat, CAI, MAF work, 3.73s along with a King Cobra Clutch and he was running pretty even with stock LT1 F-Bodies. Puts ya in the 270hp range. __________________ 2001 Trans Am WS.6 Mods: Hooker LT Headers, !Cats, Hooker Catback, SLP CAI/Lid, Ported MAF, 160 Thermo, UMI STB, Panhard Bar, LCAs, 3.42s, Tuned by Speed Inc, 75 Wet Shot My Motortopia Garage, My Car Domain

January 28th, 2008, 02:57 AM	#9
burnout5.0 Regular 2004 Mustang SVT Cobra 448whp/475wtq Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 368 iTrader: 0 reviews	are you aware that this is a mustang forum?

January 28th, 2008, 10:51 AM	#12
Bullitt95 Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT auto 13.36 @ 105.0 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Al Ain, UAE Posts: 1,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you bolt on a CAI, MAF, TB, pulleys, headers, midpipe, and catbacks onto a bone stock 5.0 long block, you should have about 230-235rwhp (~40rwhp gain over stock) or 265-270hp at the crank. Crane Cobra 1.7 roller rockers add a further ~5hp so you could match the 275hp output of a stock LT1 and still have the stock 5.0 heads/cam/intake.

January 28th, 2008, 11:06 AM	#13
95blackbeauty Enthusiast 95 5.0 too slow Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Athens, TX Posts: 911 iTrader: 0 reviews	ahh. Wasnt thinking Crank hp...my bad. __________________ 95 gt H.O. Udp's, Pypes O/r X, flowmaster 40's,CAI, 3.73 gears, C&L 76mm MAF,GT40p's, Shorties, 1.6 rr's,Gt40 manifold, short throw, Back Seat Delete BOOSTED

January 28th, 2008, 11:37 AM	#15
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	Way off subject... 97 WS6 had the LT1, right? __________________

January 28th, 2008, 12:08 PM	#17
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	Right on. Buddy of mine had a 97 WS6, but his had a built LS1. I wasnt completely sure if they came with LS1s, or LT1s. __________________

January 28th, 2008, 12:39 PM	#19
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	Very cool. I havent seen many people show nearly as much interest in LT1s as those with LS style engines. I like all the WS6s looks wise, they're some damn good looking cars IMO. I like the LS powerplants too, they respond so well to minor additions... LT1 and LT4s are sweet motors in my book too. __________________

January 28th, 2008, 01:57 PM	#20
flamedstang95 Regular 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Magnolia, DE Posts: 386 iTrader: 0 reviews	Why are we talking about junk? Nobody cares about firechickens or crapmaros. Go to one of their forums and talk about that crap. __________________ See garage for mods

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