AC and Smog Delete Questions

kpoirot · May 6th, 2008, 04:57 PM

Hey guys, long time no see. I started my spring build and ran into a couple issues. The bellhousing was cracked so i bought a lakewood, the tranny i originally ordered to replace my broken tranny ended up being the tranny with the shorter input shaft and not the 94-95 input shaft so i have to send that back out and ge that fixed. While i'm waiting for that I have a 1995 mustang GT and want to get rid of smog and AC stuff. i know theres documents on the net for the smog delete. I need to know if i can do the delete of both pumps without using pulleys and just using a shorter belt. If so i would like a diagram on how the belt should be routed. Also what do i need so i can take out my AC junk. What do you guys use to plug your vacuum lines with. Thanks, Poirot.

fogged306 · May 6th, 2008, 06:37 PM

Theres a couple of ways to do it... and I'm a fox guy so this may be wrong but I'm assuming the accessories are similar if not the same. 1: remove the pumps and buy a p/s relocate kit so that your p/s gets moved to about where the A/C would have been or 2: get the extra pully that goes in place of the A/C pump. You can remove the smog pump and not have to get another pully, but when you do the A/C, you have to add the pully or move the p/s to make it work, otherwise the belt won't fit.

kpoirot · May 6th, 2008, 08:06 PM

ok where do i get a relocate bracket and how do i remove the AC Junk/what can i remove, do i need to get different power steering hoses, and how long would the belt be when the power steering pump is relocated.

Squints · May 6th, 2008, 08:10 PM

it'll be the top right. that's the configuration mine is running. with the power steering pump where the a/c was. i'm guessing the belt is 70.5". i haven't looked at it since i bought the car. it was already like that.

fogged306 · May 7th, 2008, 10:03 AM

I got my relocate bracket from summit, it was around $40 IIRC. I'm about 99.9% sure that you don't need to change hoses on your p/s, I havent put my motor back in yet so i can't be 100% on that. I removed everything that has to do with my A/C under the hood. When you remove your smog pump, its a good idea to remove your cats because w/o the smog pump they will eventually clog and fail so get an o/r mid-pipe.

kpoirot · May 7th, 2008, 01:01 PM

can i get a link to the bracket? i can't seem to find it. also how much do you want for your cam fogged?

kpoirot · May 10th, 2008, 02:26 PM

Ok so i actually went to look at my belt system and that diagram is nothing like mine on my 5.0 HO. This is a rough sketch of my current setup:

and i'm thinking i can pull off this belt setup:

let me know what you guys think, has anyone done this setup? It'd be nice not having to move anything, just getting a smaller belt. My car won't be on the road for about another 3 weeks. Thanks

May 6th, 2008, 04:57 PM	#1
kpoirot Regular 1995 GT 5.0 14.66 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Adams, MA Posts: 73	AC and Smog Delete Questions Hey guys, long time no see. I started my spring build and ran into a couple issues. The bellhousing was cracked so i bought a lakewood, the tranny i originally ordered to replace my broken tranny ended up being the tranny with the shorter input shaft and not the 94-95 input shaft so i have to send that back out and ge that fixed. While i'm waiting for that I have a 1995 mustang GT and want to get rid of smog and AC stuff. i know theres documents on the net for the smog delete. I need to know if i can do the delete of both pumps without using pulleys and just using a shorter belt. If so i would like a diagram on how the belt should be routed. Also what do i need so i can take out my AC junk. What do you guys use to plug your vacuum lines with. Thanks, Poirot. __________________ Mods:Underdrive Pulleys, Ram Air w/ K&N Filter, Rebuilt T-5, 3.73s, High Flow H-Pipe, Energy Suspension Poly Motor and Tranny Mounts. Soon: Un= headers, Centerforce Clutch, Steeda Tri-Ax Fidanza Alumnum FW, BBK 75mm TB, EGR Elim.

May 6th, 2008, 06:37 PM	#2
fogged306 Enthusiast 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Did you get that thing I sent you? Posts: 918	Theres a couple of ways to do it... and I'm a fox guy so this may be wrong but I'm assuming the accessories are similar if not the same. 1: remove the pumps and buy a p/s relocate kit so that your p/s gets moved to about where the A/C would have been or 2: get the extra pully that goes in place of the A/C pump. You can remove the smog pump and not have to get another pully, but when you do the A/C, you have to add the pully or move the p/s to make it work, otherwise the belt won't fit. __________________ Parts needed: Full length headers and matching h-pipe For sale: Ford Racing E-303 cam brand new $100 BBK 65mm TB, brand new $100 BBK equal length shortys brand new $150 BBK off road x-pipe for shortys used $75 + shipping on all

May 6th, 2008, 08:06 PM	#3
kpoirot Regular 1995 GT 5.0 14.66 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Adams, MA Posts: 73	ok where do i get a relocate bracket and how do i remove the AC Junk/what can i remove, do i need to get different power steering hoses, and how long would the belt be when the power steering pump is relocated. __________________ Mods:Underdrive Pulleys, Ram Air w/ K&N Filter, Rebuilt T-5, 3.73s, High Flow H-Pipe, Energy Suspension Poly Motor and Tranny Mounts. Soon: Un= headers, Centerforce Clutch, Steeda Tri-Ax Fidanza Alumnum FW, BBK 75mm TB, EGR Elim.

May 6th, 2008, 08:10 PM	#4
Squints Enthusiast 1986 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: VB,VA Posts: 609	it'll be the top right. that's the configuration mine is running. with the power steering pump where the a/c was. i'm guessing the belt is 70.5". i haven't looked at it since i bought the car. it was already like that. __________________ MILITARY CREW AT3

May 7th, 2008, 10:03 AM	#5
fogged306 Enthusiast 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Did you get that thing I sent you? Posts: 918	I got my relocate bracket from summit, it was around $40 IIRC. I'm about 99.9% sure that you don't need to change hoses on your p/s, I havent put my motor back in yet so i can't be 100% on that. I removed everything that has to do with my A/C under the hood. When you remove your smog pump, its a good idea to remove your cats because w/o the smog pump they will eventually clog and fail so get an o/r mid-pipe. __________________ Parts needed: Full length headers and matching h-pipe For sale: Ford Racing E-303 cam brand new $100 BBK 65mm TB, brand new $100 BBK equal length shortys brand new $150 BBK off road x-pipe for shortys used $75 + shipping on all

May 7th, 2008, 01:01 PM	#6
kpoirot Regular 1995 GT 5.0 14.66 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Adams, MA Posts: 73	can i get a link to the bracket? i can't seem to find it. also how much do you want for your cam fogged? __________________ Mods:Underdrive Pulleys, Ram Air w/ K&N Filter, Rebuilt T-5, 3.73s, High Flow H-Pipe, Energy Suspension Poly Motor and Tranny Mounts. Soon: Un= headers, Centerforce Clutch, Steeda Tri-Ax Fidanza Alumnum FW, BBK 75mm TB, EGR Elim.

May 10th, 2008, 02:26 PM	#7
kpoirot Regular 1995 GT 5.0 14.66 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Adams, MA Posts: 73	Ok so i actually went to look at my belt system and that diagram is nothing like mine on my 5.0 HO. This is a rough sketch of my current setup: and i'm thinking i can pull off this belt setup: let me know what you guys think, has anyone done this setup? It'd be nice not having to move anything, just getting a smaller belt. My car won't be on the road for about another 3 weeks. Thanks __________________ Mods:Underdrive Pulleys, Ram Air w/ K&N Filter, Rebuilt T-5, 3.73s, High Flow H-Pipe, Energy Suspension Poly Motor and Tranny Mounts. Soon: Un= headers, Centerforce Clutch, Steeda Tri-Ax Fidanza Alumnum FW, BBK 75mm TB, EGR Elim.

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