3rd gear grinding

shroom · May 11th, 2008, 10:23 PM

So. I got a problem. I have a 95 gt, 196,XXX on the odometer.
For about the First five minutes or so after start up, my car will grind when I shift into third. Once its in, its fine, no problems. But i can go back out, then into, and it'll grind again. Its only with third gear. After awhile, its gone. and only happens after its started. Then it'll stop.

Any ideas whats wrong????

tom2000r · May 11th, 2008, 10:29 PM

maybe clutch

shroom · May 11th, 2008, 10:46 PM

Every other gear is fine. And I've made sure i pressed all the way too..
...?

Bullitt95 · May 12th, 2008, 06:25 AM

Sounds to me like you have a worn 3rd gear synchromesh. The symptoms are invariably worse when the gear oil is still cold and thick.

shroom · May 12th, 2008, 09:38 PM

How may i fix this problem, and is it expensive?

also, how hard would it be to fix this myself?

if you could explain what the synchromesh is, that would help too. if you dont mind.

tom2000r · May 12th, 2008, 10:20 PM

sitting at idle, how hard is it to go from 1st to reverse.......

Bullitt95 · May 13th, 2008, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by shroom

How may i fix this problem, and is it expensive?

also, how hard would it be to fix this myself?

if you could explain what the synchromesh is, that would help too. if you dont mind.

Unless you're expert at rebuilding manual trannies, I suggest you have it done by a specialist professional. It's not diffucult to fix, but it's also easy to screw up if you don't know what you're doing.
The synchromesh is what helps the gears to engage smoothly without grinding when you depress the clutch pedal. Here's a good explanation:

Manual transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

shroom · May 14th, 2008, 12:02 AM

Gotcha...so how would I present this to my local repair shop????? Cuz im not really sure, but i assume, etc. ??

Bullitt95 · May 14th, 2008, 01:09 PM

Just describe the symptoms to your local repair shop and see if they agree with the diagnosis of a worn synchro. Your tranny will need a full rebuild anyway especially with 196k miles on it, and the high cost of a rebuild might make it more economical to just replace it with a new tranny. This might also be an opportunity to upgrade to a stronger tranny.

shroom · May 17th, 2008, 11:51 PM

Jesus.......I don't have money to really buy a new tranny, and Im selling this car at the end of the summer anyways......the tranny actually feels fine. Its been really smooth, shifts lnice and clean, up until this 3rd gear incident. You still think i should?

Modified88Dreamer · May 17th, 2008, 11:54 PM

I've seen how our transmission specialist rebuilt a transmission once. Some parts have to be pressed into place.

bullitt5576 · May 17th, 2008, 11:58 PM

lots of little pieces, and x2 for the 3rd gear syncro being worn out

Bullitt95 · May 18th, 2008, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by shroom

Jesus.......I don't have money to really buy a new tranny, and Im selling this car at the end of the summer anyways......the tranny actually feels fine. Its been really smooth, shifts lnice and clean, up until this 3rd gear incident. You still think i should?

Since you're going to sell the car anyway and the symptoms from the tranny aren't that bad, you might as well leave it alone and soldier on.

shroom · May 22nd, 2008, 12:41 AM

I probably will, just change out my tranny fluid and all. How much would it cost to get the 3rd synchro fixed btw?

WildWill · May 22nd, 2008, 06:25 PM

a shop probably wont just replace the 3rd gear synchros... they will have to order the full rebuild kit and replace them all. besides, the chances are, if you just replace the one, a second one will go out shortly after

look on ebay for tranny's or look around for a wrecked car with a t5 in it (like in a junk yard) that has low miles. you could probably find one for 3-400 bucks if you shopeed around.

shroom · May 23rd, 2008, 05:07 PM

know of any good donor cars that have them stock? Or any sites that sell trannies used or salvage web sites?

May 11th, 2008, 10:23 PM	#1
shroom Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 142	3rd gear grinding So. I got a problem. I have a 95 gt, 196,XXX on the odometer. For about the First five minutes or so after start up, my car will grind when I shift into third. Once its in, its fine, no problems. But i can go back out, then into, and it'll grind again. Its only with third gear. After awhile, its gone. and only happens after its started. Then it'll stop. Any ideas whats wrong???? __________________ Please PM me if you find out of any good deals on a terminator! Thanks! "8/6/1945 little boy was dropped on Hiroshima......8/9/1945 FAT MAN was dropped on Nagasaki.....8/1/2002 Ford Motor Co. dropped the TERMINATOR on your Japanese ass"

May 11th, 2008, 10:46 PM	#3
shroom Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 142	Every other gear is fine. And I've made sure i pressed all the way too.. ...? __________________ Please PM me if you find out of any good deals on a terminator! Thanks! "8/6/1945 little boy was dropped on Hiroshima......8/9/1945 FAT MAN was dropped on Nagasaki.....8/1/2002 Ford Motor Co. dropped the TERMINATOR on your Japanese ass"

May 12th, 2008, 06:25 AM	#4
Bullitt95 Regular 1995 Mustang GT AODE 13.87@101.3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Al Ain, UAE Posts: 374	Sounds to me like you have a worn 3rd gear synchromesh. The symptoms are invariably worse when the gear oil is still cold and thick. __________________ Mod List

May 12th, 2008, 09:38 PM	#5
shroom Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 142	How may i fix this problem, and is it expensive? also, how hard would it be to fix this myself? if you could explain what the synchromesh is, that would help too. if you dont mind. __________________ Please PM me if you find out of any good deals on a terminator! Thanks! "8/6/1945 little boy was dropped on Hiroshima......8/9/1945 FAT MAN was dropped on Nagasaki.....8/1/2002 Ford Motor Co. dropped the TERMINATOR on your Japanese ass"

May 14th, 2008, 12:02 AM	#8
shroom Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 142	Gotcha...so how would I present this to my local repair shop????? Cuz im not really sure, but i assume, etc. ?? __________________ Please PM me if you find out of any good deals on a terminator! Thanks! "8/6/1945 little boy was dropped on Hiroshima......8/9/1945 FAT MAN was dropped on Nagasaki.....8/1/2002 Ford Motor Co. dropped the TERMINATOR on your Japanese ass"

May 11th, 2008, 10:29 PM	#2
tom2000r Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 753	maybe clutch

May 12th, 2008, 10:20 PM	#6
tom2000r Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 753	sitting at idle, how hard is it to go from 1st to reverse.......

May 14th, 2008, 01:09 PM	#9
Bullitt95 Regular 1995 Mustang GT AODE 13.87@101.3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Al Ain, UAE Posts: 374	Just describe the symptoms to your local repair shop and see if they agree with the diagnosis of a worn synchro. Your tranny will need a full rebuild anyway especially with 196k miles on it, and the high cost of a rebuild might make it more economical to just replace it with a new tranny. This might also be an opportunity to upgrade to a stronger tranny.

May 17th, 2008, 11:51 PM	#10
shroom Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 142	Jesus.......I don't have money to really buy a new tranny, and Im selling this car at the end of the summer anyways......the tranny actually feels fine. Its been really smooth, shifts lnice and clean, up until this 3rd gear incident. You still think i should? __________________ Please PM me if you find out of any good deals on a terminator! Thanks! "8/6/1945 little boy was dropped on Hiroshima......8/9/1945 FAT MAN was dropped on Nagasaki.....8/1/2002 Ford Motor Co. dropped the TERMINATOR on your Japanese ass"

May 17th, 2008, 11:54 PM	#11
Modified88Dreamer Enthusiast Nowhere to be found Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Moving back home to Florida Posts: 630	I've seen how our transmission specialist rebuilt a transmission once. Some parts have to be pressed into place. __________________ Well, guys its been real and its been fun, but it hasn't been real fun for me the past 3 months. Money has been tight and need to cancel my cable service to save what I can. I hope to chat with ya'll in 6-7 months from now. Bye!

May 22nd, 2008, 12:41 AM	#14
shroom Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 142	I probably will, just change out my tranny fluid and all. How much would it cost to get the 3rd synchro fixed btw? __________________ Please PM me if you find out of any good deals on a terminator! Thanks! "8/6/1945 little boy was dropped on Hiroshima......8/9/1945 FAT MAN was dropped on Nagasaki.....8/1/2002 Ford Motor Co. dropped the TERMINATOR on your Japanese ass"

May 22nd, 2008, 06:25 PM	#15
WildWill Regular 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Solomons, MD Posts: 383	a shop probably wont just replace the 3rd gear synchros... they will have to order the full rebuild kit and replace them all. besides, the chances are, if you just replace the one, a second one will go out shortly after look on ebay for tranny's or look around for a wrecked car with a t5 in it (like in a junk yard) that has low miles. you could probably find one for 3-400 bucks if you shopeed around. __________________ 1995 GT, Ford Motorsports 'C' Springs, 2003 Cobra Bilstein Struts, Tokico Bullitt Shocks, MM Caster/Camber Plates, BBK x-pipe w/high flow cats, Flowmaster 40-series mufflers, B&M Short Throw Shifter, JLT True Cold Air Intake

May 23rd, 2008, 05:07 PM	#16
shroom Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 142	know of any good donor cars that have them stock? Or any sites that sell trannies used or salvage web sites? __________________ Please PM me if you find out of any good deals on a terminator! Thanks! "8/6/1945 little boy was dropped on Hiroshima......8/9/1945 FAT MAN was dropped on Nagasaki.....8/1/2002 Ford Motor Co. dropped the TERMINATOR on your Japanese ass"

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