clutch related squeak...

WildWill · June 12th, 2008, 10:21 PM

for about the past 3-4 weeks, i've been noticing a light but steady "squeak" coming from somewhere... it sounds exactly like a belt squeal, which is what i thought it was, but i just recently noticed that when i rest my foot on the clutch pedal, only lightly... not pushing it in to disengage, but just a small bit of light pressure (maybe a 1/4-1/2 inch movement of the pedal), the squeak goes away. if i take my foot completely off the pedal, the steady, spinning squeak comes back...

any ideas what this might be? i feel like it could turn into a future problem, so any help would be appreciated. i think its an aftermarket clutch, but i have no idea what it might be, except that i think its way to stiff to be stock.

Rico-mofos · June 12th, 2008, 10:22 PM

throw out bearing

WildWill · June 12th, 2008, 11:08 PM

is that something that will progressively get worse? should i replace it right away, or can it wait?

Rico-mofos · June 12th, 2008, 11:11 PM

eventually yes ....how long dont know...i drove with mine like that for about 5 months...how many miles on your clutch?

WildWill · June 13th, 2008, 02:48 PM

again... i have no clue... there's 125k on the car, but like i said, im pretty sure the clutch isn't stock. its really stiff. is it a tough thing to change out? i've never messed with tranny's/clutches/flywheels, etc... so i wouldn't even know where to start.

Thlad · June 13th, 2008, 03:23 PM

I have a similar problem with mine but it only squeals when i press the pedal a little.

Justincredible · June 13th, 2008, 03:33 PM

Yes it is the throw-out bearing.

When ever you choose to fix it....might as well replace the stock aluminum bearing retainer with a FRPP steel retainer. You will be glad you did.
Makes for alot smoother clutch engaugement and longer throw-out bearing life. The stock aluminum piece is junk.

Steel Retainer link....
Ford Racing M-7050-B - Ford Racing T-5 Bearing Retainers - summitracing.com

Thlad · June 13th, 2008, 03:47 PM

how difficult is that to put in.

Justincredible · June 14th, 2008, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Thlad

how difficult is that to put in.

Just have to pull the H-pipe, drive shaft, and the transmission.

Its not too big of a deal.

TKOTLARZ · June 15th, 2008, 09:45 PM

u have to take your tranny out and pull out the clutch fork..but pay attention to the way it faces on the clutch fork..and u want to put a little grease on the bearing..its not that big of a deal like justincredible said but it is a little time consuming

flamedstang95 · June 17th, 2008, 01:28 PM

Just because your pedal is stiff doesn't mean your clutch is aggressive. Your cable could be binding up too. How many miles were on the car when you got it? Your throwout bearing is on it's way out and yes it will get worse in time. I agree that you should also replace the bearing retainer when your tranny is out, just make sure you get the 94/95 retainer because fox retainers are 5/8 inch shorter. If you decide to buy a parts store clutch kit I would suggest getting a centerforce TO bearing. They're the best on the market IMO.

WildWill · June 19th, 2008, 04:20 PM

the car had about 118k when i got it... no squeaking. i've decided that im going to hold out on the bearing replacement till i get a new tranny sometime in the next 6-8 months, unless it gets really bad. i want to change everything out (clutch, tranny, driveshaft etc...) haven't decided to what yet, but ill worry about that later. i think you might be on to something with the cable binding a little bit... the other day i had my door open when the car was off and i pushed the clutch in and i heard a creaking noise coming from it...

MustangSallee · June 20th, 2008, 11:08 AM

Yep that definately sounds like the trow out bearing, I have developed the same issue with mine. I can push mine in and have no noise at all, it is engaging that mine wants to 'creak/squeal/squeak' and will usually stop when it the car warms up. Sounds strange and seems from what I have researched about it to be a common issue for stangs.

mustang1994bob · June 23rd, 2008, 06:03 PM

100% throw out bearing you can let it go almost forever lol, but the stiff clutch is almost definatly going to be cable problems, may need to ajust it if some one hase put in an ajustable one in

94StAnG5.0 · June 23rd, 2008, 06:41 PM

hey man before you take your throw out bearing out, let me make a suggestion. My car was doing the same thing and it was definitely the throw out bearing. Before I did anything major, I adjusted my clutch. Guess what? It stopped it and since then, I have no squeak, so if I were you, I'd adjust the clutch. Here is the way to do that:

-First, jack up the car where you can get to the transmission.

-Second, locate the little box on the tranny where the clutch cable goes into the connect to the clutch rod.

-Take the screw out of the box and take the box off. Then take the clip off the clutch cable and take the cable loose from the clutch rod.

-Go inside the car and push down and pull the clutch pedal all the way up about 2 or 3 times to make sure you get it right. Believe me, It sounded dumb to me because I wondered how it adjusts the clutch, but it does.

-Next just reconnect the clutch cable back to the clutch rod and make sure you put that clip back like it was on there. Replace the box, drop the car and see if it still does it.

I'm not saying it's going to fix your problem, but it fixed mine. If it don't fix the squeak, then you are going to have to result to replacing the throw out bearing. Let me know if it works or not man..

WildWill · June 25th, 2008, 02:14 PM

thanks for your input... so just to clarify the instructions, cuz it does sound a little wierd... all i have to do it pull the cable off where it goes into the tranny and then push the clutch pedal all the way in 2 or 3 times, then reattach the cable and the clutch has been adjusted??? please tell me if this is right cuz it doesnt really make sense to me.

TKOTLARZ · June 26th, 2008, 12:39 AM

no dont do that..its called a clutch fork that the cable connects to and what the bearing sits on...if you disconnect the cable from the fork and push your clutch in, its not going to come back up..it will sit on the floor ..grab the cable itself with some pliers(the part at the end of the cable has a spot to grab right before the threads start) and tighten the nut just a little..this is making the same effect of just laying your foot on the clutch a little, but be careful you dont tighten it much cause that will cause your clutch to not engage all the way and you will eat up your clutch, and not get all the power to the ground ..your gonna have to replace the bearing,but i would look at your pressure plate and make sure none of your teeth are bent..i know thats why my bearing went ...over those past 3-4 weeks, did the squeak start out real light and get a little worse..to what it is now..or did u get in the car and it was squeaking really bad one day?
and the stiff cable could be caused from a bad routing of it, or it might just need to be replaced

mustang1994bob · June 27th, 2008, 04:48 PM

TKOTLARZ is right if you have an adjustable clutch cable, you may have a firewall adjuster, if so you just go to it and loosen it to tighten up the cable, and if your running stock everything then you simply pull up on your clutch pedal (you should hear a few clicks) and thats all, it adjusts its self

WildWill · June 29th, 2008, 10:37 PM

thanks for all the help guys... as soon as i get a bit of free time ill try it and let you know what the result is.

oh, and the squeak has slowly been getting worse from when it started a few weeks ago.

TKOTLARZ · June 30th, 2008, 08:47 PM

yea, just buy a new one..take your clutch out and check the teeth..if you can see one is a little bent at all, you need a new plate..but place notecard on it and see if nothing is noticeable from eyeview..make sure you use white lithium grease on the bearing

June 12th, 2008, 10:21 PM	#1
WildWill Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Solomons, MD Posts: 1,112 iTrader: 0 reviews	clutch related squeak... for about the past 3-4 weeks, i've been noticing a light but steady "squeak" coming from somewhere... it sounds exactly like a belt squeal, which is what i thought it was, but i just recently noticed that when i rest my foot on the clutch pedal, only lightly... not pushing it in to disengage, but just a small bit of light pressure (maybe a 1/4-1/2 inch movement of the pedal), the squeak goes away. if i take my foot completely off the pedal, the steady, spinning squeak comes back... any ideas what this might be? i feel like it could turn into a future problem, so any help would be appreciated. i think its an aftermarket clutch, but i have no idea what it might be, except that i think its way to stiff to be stock. __________________ GT40p heads, 1.7 crane RR's, GT40 u/l, MAC LTs, MAC o/r h-pipe, Flowmaster 40s, 65mm t/b, '03 Cobra Bilstein Struts, Tokico Bullitt Shocks, MM c/c plates, Eibach Sportlines, B&M shifter, 255lph f/p, RAM p/g clutch, Fidanza alum fly, rebuilt t-5

June 12th, 2008, 10:22 PM	#2
Rico-mofos Hardcore Enthusiast 2008 Bullitt #890 slow Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,594 iTrader: 0 reviews	throw out bearing __________________ BULLITT CREW #5 LT GTB mufflers for sale

June 12th, 2008, 11:08 PM	#3
WildWill Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Solomons, MD Posts: 1,112 iTrader: 0 reviews	is that something that will progressively get worse? should i replace it right away, or can it wait? __________________ GT40p heads, 1.7 crane RR's, GT40 u/l, MAC LTs, MAC o/r h-pipe, Flowmaster 40s, 65mm t/b, '03 Cobra Bilstein Struts, Tokico Bullitt Shocks, MM c/c plates, Eibach Sportlines, B&M shifter, 255lph f/p, RAM p/g clutch, Fidanza alum fly, rebuilt t-5

June 12th, 2008, 11:11 PM	#4
Rico-mofos Hardcore Enthusiast 2008 Bullitt #890 slow Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,594 iTrader: 0 reviews	eventually yes ....how long dont know...i drove with mine like that for about 5 months...how many miles on your clutch? __________________ BULLITT CREW #5 LT GTB mufflers for sale

June 13th, 2008, 02:48 PM	#5
WildWill Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Solomons, MD Posts: 1,112 iTrader: 0 reviews	again... i have no clue... there's 125k on the car, but like i said, im pretty sure the clutch isn't stock. its really stiff. is it a tough thing to change out? i've never messed with tranny's/clutches/flywheels, etc... so i wouldn't even know where to start. __________________ GT40p heads, 1.7 crane RR's, GT40 u/l, MAC LTs, MAC o/r h-pipe, Flowmaster 40s, 65mm t/b, '03 Cobra Bilstein Struts, Tokico Bullitt Shocks, MM c/c plates, Eibach Sportlines, B&M shifter, 255lph f/p, RAM p/g clutch, Fidanza alum fly, rebuilt t-5

June 13th, 2008, 03:23 PM	#6
Thlad Regular 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 100 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have a similar problem with mine but it only squeals when i press the pedal a little.

June 13th, 2008, 03:33 PM	#7
Justincredible Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ky Posts: 523 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yes it is the throw-out bearing. When ever you choose to fix it....might as well replace the stock aluminum bearing retainer with a FRPP steel retainer. You will be glad you did. Makes for alot smoother clutch engaugement and longer throw-out bearing life. The stock aluminum piece is junk. Steel Retainer link.... Ford Racing M-7050-B - Ford Racing T-5 Bearing Retainers - summitracing.com __________________ 9.91@ 134mph 1/4 - 6.17@ 109mph 1/8th - 1.33 60' - Stock ECU & Stock Suspension......and getting faster . BIVENS RACE CARS FTMFW!!!

June 13th, 2008, 03:47 PM	#8
Thlad Regular 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 100 iTrader: 0 reviews	how difficult is that to put in.

June 15th, 2008, 09:45 PM	#10
TKOTLARZ Hardcore Enthusiast 1994 GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: lake worth, Florida Posts: 1,002 iTrader: 0 reviews	u have to take your tranny out and pull out the clutch fork..but pay attention to the way it faces on the clutch fork..and u want to put a little grease on the bearing..its not that big of a deal like justincredible said but it is a little time consuming __________________ Cohagan Engineering, Inc.

June 17th, 2008, 01:28 PM	#11
flamedstang95 Regular 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Magnolia, DE Posts: 386 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just because your pedal is stiff doesn't mean your clutch is aggressive. Your cable could be binding up too. How many miles were on the car when you got it? Your throwout bearing is on it's way out and yes it will get worse in time. I agree that you should also replace the bearing retainer when your tranny is out, just make sure you get the 94/95 retainer because fox retainers are 5/8 inch shorter. If you decide to buy a parts store clutch kit I would suggest getting a centerforce TO bearing. They're the best on the market IMO. __________________ See garage for mods

June 19th, 2008, 04:20 PM	#12
WildWill Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Solomons, MD Posts: 1,112 iTrader: 0 reviews	the car had about 118k when i got it... no squeaking. i've decided that im going to hold out on the bearing replacement till i get a new tranny sometime in the next 6-8 months, unless it gets really bad. i want to change everything out (clutch, tranny, driveshaft etc...) haven't decided to what yet, but ill worry about that later. i think you might be on to something with the cable binding a little bit... the other day i had my door open when the car was off and i pushed the clutch in and i heard a creaking noise coming from it... __________________ GT40p heads, 1.7 crane RR's, GT40 u/l, MAC LTs, MAC o/r h-pipe, Flowmaster 40s, 65mm t/b, '03 Cobra Bilstein Struts, Tokico Bullitt Shocks, MM c/c plates, Eibach Sportlines, B&M shifter, 255lph f/p, RAM p/g clutch, Fidanza alum fly, rebuilt t-5

June 20th, 2008, 11:08 AM	#13
MustangSallee Regular 1994 Mustang 5.0 ???? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lexington KY Posts: 78 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yep that definately sounds like the trow out bearing, I have developed the same issue with mine. I can push mine in and have no noise at all, it is engaging that mine wants to 'creak/squeal/squeak' and will usually stop when it the car warms up. Sounds strange and seems from what I have researched about it to be a common issue for stangs.

June 23rd, 2008, 06:03 PM	#14
mustang1994bob Regular 1994 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	100% throw out bearing you can let it go almost forever lol, but the stiff clutch is almost definatly going to be cable problems, may need to ajust it if some one hase put in an ajustable one in

June 23rd, 2008, 06:41 PM	#15
94StAnG5.0 Enthusiast 1994 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Byhalia, MS Posts: 663 iTrader: 0 reviews	hey man before you take your throw out bearing out, let me make a suggestion. My car was doing the same thing and it was definitely the throw out bearing. Before I did anything major, I adjusted my clutch. Guess what? It stopped it and since then, I have no squeak, so if I were you, I'd adjust the clutch. Here is the way to do that: -First, jack up the car where you can get to the transmission. -Second, locate the little box on the tranny where the clutch cable goes into the connect to the clutch rod. -Take the screw out of the box and take the box off. Then take the clip off the clutch cable and take the cable loose from the clutch rod. -Go inside the car and push down and pull the clutch pedal all the way up about 2 or 3 times to make sure you get it right. Believe me, It sounded dumb to me because I wondered how it adjusts the clutch, but it does. -Next just reconnect the clutch cable back to the clutch rod and make sure you put that clip back like it was on there. Replace the box, drop the car and see if it still does it. I'm not saying it's going to fix your problem, but it fixed mine. If it don't fix the squeak, then you are going to have to result to replacing the throw out bearing. Let me know if it works or not man.. __________________ Ain't No Tamin' This Stang!

June 25th, 2008, 02:14 PM	#16
WildWill Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Solomons, MD Posts: 1,112 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks for your input... so just to clarify the instructions, cuz it does sound a little wierd... all i have to do it pull the cable off where it goes into the tranny and then push the clutch pedal all the way in 2 or 3 times, then reattach the cable and the clutch has been adjusted??? please tell me if this is right cuz it doesnt really make sense to me. __________________ GT40p heads, 1.7 crane RR's, GT40 u/l, MAC LTs, MAC o/r h-pipe, Flowmaster 40s, 65mm t/b, '03 Cobra Bilstein Struts, Tokico Bullitt Shocks, MM c/c plates, Eibach Sportlines, B&M shifter, 255lph f/p, RAM p/g clutch, Fidanza alum fly, rebuilt t-5

June 26th, 2008, 12:39 AM	#17
TKOTLARZ Hardcore Enthusiast 1994 GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: lake worth, Florida Posts: 1,002 iTrader: 0 reviews	no dont do that..its called a clutch fork that the cable connects to and what the bearing sits on...if you disconnect the cable from the fork and push your clutch in, its not going to come back up..it will sit on the floor ..grab the cable itself with some pliers(the part at the end of the cable has a spot to grab right before the threads start) and tighten the nut just a little..this is making the same effect of just laying your foot on the clutch a little, but be careful you dont tighten it much cause that will cause your clutch to not engage all the way and you will eat up your clutch, and not get all the power to the ground ..your gonna have to replace the bearing,but i would look at your pressure plate and make sure none of your teeth are bent..i know thats why my bearing went ...over those past 3-4 weeks, did the squeak start out real light and get a little worse..to what it is now..or did u get in the car and it was squeaking really bad one day? and the stiff cable could be caused from a bad routing of it, or it might just need to be replaced __________________ Cohagan Engineering, Inc.

June 27th, 2008, 04:48 PM	#18
mustang1994bob Regular 1994 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	TKOTLARZ is right if you have an adjustable clutch cable, you may have a firewall adjuster, if so you just go to it and loosen it to tighten up the cable, and if your running stock everything then you simply pull up on your clutch pedal (you should hear a few clicks) and thats all, it adjusts its self

June 29th, 2008, 10:37 PM	#19
WildWill Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Solomons, MD Posts: 1,112 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks for all the help guys... as soon as i get a bit of free time ill try it and let you know what the result is. oh, and the squeak has slowly been getting worse from when it started a few weeks ago. __________________ GT40p heads, 1.7 crane RR's, GT40 u/l, MAC LTs, MAC o/r h-pipe, Flowmaster 40s, 65mm t/b, '03 Cobra Bilstein Struts, Tokico Bullitt Shocks, MM c/c plates, Eibach Sportlines, B&M shifter, 255lph f/p, RAM p/g clutch, Fidanza alum fly, rebuilt t-5

June 30th, 2008, 08:47 PM	#20
TKOTLARZ Hardcore Enthusiast 1994 GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: lake worth, Florida Posts: 1,002 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea, just buy a new one..take your clutch out and check the teeth..if you can see one is a little bent at all, you need a new plate..but place notecard on it and see if nothing is noticeable from eyeview..make sure you use white lithium grease on the bearing __________________ Cohagan Engineering, Inc.

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