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Explorer Heads?
on one of my other topics about upgrades, one person posted that i could put 96-00 ford explorer heads and intake manifold on my 95 gt and it would produce around 285 hp or more even more with port and polish. i was wondering if there was any truth to that and if anyone has or know anyone that has done it and if they got good results. the heads and manifold that i really want are kinda on the spendy side and cant afford them at the moment until tax time!!!! thank you for your time.
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oh and also i read on another forum that with any type of "bigger head" replacement for more power done to one of these cars, the computer doesnt respond well and cant keep up with the air/fuel. they said that you would have to replace the computer with a 90-93 5.0 computer. is there any truth to that as well?? thank you
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Im running my sn95 ECU (SCT tuned) with a large cam, heads, and intake...on a 351 Windsor in my 94 GT and it runs and drives great. Any compatent tuner can fix the issues that the SN-95 ecu has with any mods. Anyone who says other wise is either trying to sell you something you dont need or they just dont have a clue.
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Re: Explorer Heads?
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so i shouldnt even wast my time for now and buy those. is that true though that i could use those heads and intake manifold to increase power???
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I highly recommend the TFS Head,Cam,Intake kit or the similar kit by Holley. Its the complete package...minus some odds and ends and a tune, that will make ~300hp at the wheels. These kits are by far the best bang for the buck your going to get.
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about how much would one of those kits cost??? which one is the best over all the tfs or the holly???
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But I do belive the TFS offers more room to grow... Then again...its a matter of opinion between the two. The kit will run you about $2300 from Summit Racing (thats about as good of price as your going to find anywhere) Here is the link: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku To get the full potential of their kit, you will also need a set of 24# injectors, 70mm Mass Air meter and throtle body, a good fuel pump, and some dyno time and a custom tune. Same goes for the Holley kit or any other combo you may peice together. Plan to spend about $3500 for the whole deal after its all said and done. This may sound like a lot...but its a great foundation to begin with. Its basicly a 125 hp bolt on deal with great drivability and reliability. Then...down the road when you want more power (this will happen)...you can add a blower, turbo, or nitrous and make alot more HP very very easy.
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thank you for all feedback. i will just save some cash and buy the kit. i want it up and running come may when P.I.R (portland inter. raceway) or the woodburn track opens. i am going to race a few of my friends but the one that i cant wait to race is the 1 with the chevy powered datsun 280z. i know i wont beat him cuz of the weight of the car with that much power but i want to be a little faster so i wont be imberassed. again thank you for all your help!
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I don't completely agree with the above. I'm not saying the trickflows are bad in any way but if your on a budget, u can always find some used gt-40p's for around $200-$300. there no trickflows by no means, but there a good step up for the green. same for roller rockers, u can pick up a good used set for around $80-$150. check out the corral classifieds @ www.corral.net
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Hey I agree with Justincredible. (he know what he is talking about 10.4) I am going to go with the trickflow street package. Yes the gt40s are better then stock but you would only end up wanting to upgrade after you do the gt40 heads. if your going to do it you dont want to end up doing it all over again.
hey Justincredible where is Leitchvegas, KY. I was thinking about moving to Hebron KY it close to ohio when I get out of the military |
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Its in south-central Kentucky just above Bowling Green. And yes...the GT-40 heads will make more power than the stock units...but not much more. Id rather do it right the first time than half-ass it now and be wanting more later on down the road.
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well i took your advice and i got aprroved for a loan through the bank and i just ordered the trickflow kit from summit. i read through everyones replys and i also agree with Justincredible, i was going to just buy some heads and intake manifold to give me alittle more power now but i was thinking and i also consulted some of my buddies, that why spend money on a little gain when you could take that money and put it towards the parts that you really want and will give you better results. thank you for the advice and i will keep you posted on my mustang. thanks again!
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But remember...don't get into a rush and don't expect instant results once you get everything bolted back together. That head, cam, intake combo and the stock ECU wont get along very well until it gets tuned on a chassis dyno. After that...that combo will scream.
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You're gonna need an elbo for that upper intake to fit the TB, 70MM TB, and 80MM MAF or 70MM, but stock is not gonna let that kit do its thing, also to work with that TFS kit.
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i'm not going to put everything together until i get some more cash to do the tunning. is there a certain elbo that would be good or just any one will do the trick??? should i just take it to a place where they do dynos for hp or is there a certain type pf place that i need to take it to??
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Most SCT tuners fall into this category. TFS makes the elbow that you need for your 94-95 application. Its about $90 from Summit.
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I have an SVO elbow but trick flow makes one eldabrok does to (sorry cant spell LOL) summit has them for sale. about $90
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so when looking for a shop, i havent heard about a shop near where i live.(salem, oregon) that does that kind of tunning, so if i look in the phone book, what should i look under??? do you think if i took it to ford that maybe they ould do it for me???
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Are you talking about installing the topend kit or the tuning?
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