ok decsion time, need some input

bkg97gt · December 16th, 2008, 05:15 PM

while im doing other stuff my brother offered to get me a new set of mufflers and my mom wants to get me another part for christmas so i need some advice

1. brother said either loudmouth1's or 2's or flowmasters, what do you all think? so far all i got exhaust wise is an xpipe with highflow cats

2. PI intake or PI cams first? i can get one now and the other later, which one will help me the most up front

heres what i have done for now
3:73 gears, CAI, Xpipe

Lefty · December 16th, 2008, 05:41 PM

I'm not a fan of loudmouths. To me the LM's were designed to sound like shit ha. They are just LOUD. No tone or sound. JUST FRIGGIN' LOUD. I have Flow's Original 40 Series on my GT. I like them. The drone isn't that bad in my opinion. I would take any muffler over loudmouths.

97S281 · December 16th, 2008, 05:49 PM

Let your mom get you headers, then you will be done with the exhaust. I like the magna pack sound best.

white_fang · December 16th, 2008, 05:55 PM

i love the slp loudmouth

it's a tough one to call, sound and a little hp and tq

or

more hp and tq

go with cam, then intake then later get an exhaust system.

bkg97gt · December 16th, 2008, 06:35 PM

What i bassicly am looking for is will the cam or intake provide the most right now. as for the headers i wish, but thats a hair outa range. Intake or pi cams can be had for fairly cheap

bkg97gt · December 17th, 2008, 05:12 PM

anyone?

97GT4.6 · December 17th, 2008, 05:16 PM

Id say get loudmouth 1's, and then get a PI intake.

bkg97gt · December 17th, 2008, 07:32 PM

ok, so does it really have a difference between the two? Ive heard the intake is almost unoticable by itself except for throttle response. Ive heard the cams give you more power through the entire range while the intake is all up high. and finnaly ive heard the Pi cams are useless without the intake.

97GT4.6 · December 17th, 2008, 07:41 PM

The intake is noticeable through all rpms, but it REALLY is noticeable at higher RPMS, and the cams are NOT useless with out the intake.. But you get more gains with both.

MustangMatt96GT · December 17th, 2008, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by 97GT4.6

Id say get loudmouth 1's, and then get a PI intake.

Shitty Loud Pipes FTL...

Get PI intake and cams... if you shop around you can get them for 150 bucks for both....

97GT4.6 · December 17th, 2008, 08:20 PM

..Speaking of which, some time can i bring the stang up to lakewood and put in my pi cams at your house?

bkg97gt · December 17th, 2008, 08:26 PM

im not arguing the fact that both are what i need its just at the moment i can get either one, so im trying to figure out what will be the most benificial to my setup as of now.as to the mufflers its just he really wants to get me a set of mufflers, and he is set on flowmasters due to the fact he can get em for 60bucks through his shop.

97GSTANG · December 18th, 2008, 01:17 PM

I have spl LM1's and I like them but I don get the deep sound like I had with the flowmasters before I put the slp's on...I would say go with flowmasters cheaper and get just as good of a sound just not as loud...

97GT4.6 · December 18th, 2008, 03:24 PM

Flowmasters are a lot deeper, but it won't be as loud.. its up to you man

mustangracer2g · December 18th, 2008, 03:59 PM

hmm i think i'd get the exhaust and the intake first... then get the cams later.. the intake should give you noticeable gains by itself alone.. then get the cams later, get em degreed and you're pretty good... as for exhaust, altho i like loud... i think the SLP's are a lil obnoxious for my own taste... i mean i prefer deeper tone to the sheer loudness of the slps.. but it really is all on you, depends on what you want from the exhaust... you already have an x with high flows.. thats already a good gain... with a more freely flowing catback it should be pretty good either way, i'd say go with the flows.

moosenuk17 · December 18th, 2008, 05:18 PM

flows and cams bro

97GT4.6 · December 18th, 2008, 05:38 PM

Well whatever you end up doing, its going to be good anyways. Whether SLP or Flowmaster, or the Cams or Intake, its all going to be beneficial to your stang.

NO_PI_NO_POWER · December 19th, 2008, 11:46 AM

Yeah I enjoy my Flowmasters, most of the cars I've seen with SLP are real loud, but as with any exhaust, if you keep cats on it, then it will be quieter, I'm switching over to magnaflow, and hopefully quiet it down a little. PI Cams with the npi manifold and npi heads were nice, but definitely got more from my aftermarket cams.

bkg97gt · December 19th, 2008, 05:02 PM

ok im going the cams and flows. right now its the best for my budget, near the first of the year im getting money back from school so the intake is more likley to happen. i was afraid the cams would hurt the NPI intake or something.

thanks for all the help

December 16th, 2008, 05:15 PM	#1
bkg97gt Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 202 iTrader: 2 reviews	ok decsion time, need some input while im doing other stuff my brother offered to get me a new set of mufflers and my mom wants to get me another part for christmas so i need some advice 1. brother said either loudmouth1's or 2's or flowmasters, what do you all think? so far all i got exhaust wise is an xpipe with highflow cats 2. PI intake or PI cams first? i can get one now and the other later, which one will help me the most up front heres what i have done for now 3:73 gears, CAI, Xpipe

December 16th, 2008, 05:41 PM	#2
Lefty Resident DJ '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 28,699 iTrader: 12 reviews	I'm not a fan of loudmouths. To me the LM's were designed to sound like shit ha. They are just LOUD. No tone or sound. JUST FRIGGIN' LOUD. I have Flow's Original 40 Series on my GT. I like them. The drone isn't that bad in my opinion. I would take any muffler over loudmouths. __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

December 16th, 2008, 05:49 PM	#3
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	Let your mom get you headers, then you will be done with the exhaust. I like the magna pack sound best. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

December 16th, 2008, 05:55 PM	#4
white_fang Banned 1996,mustang around 5's 0-60 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: maybee Posts: 747 iTrader: 0 reviews	i love the slp loudmouth it's a tough one to call, sound and a little hp and tq or more hp and tq go with cam, then intake then later get an exhaust system. __________________ bbk cai 8.8 373 dual exuast ported heads bored 30 over forge crank aggressive cam minor shit also [SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]crew member #1 that loves mods and administrators[/COLOR][/SIZE]

December 17th, 2008, 05:16 PM	#7
97GT4.6 Hardcore Enthusiast 97 GT 14.2@99.8 @ 4800 ft Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Collins and Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	Id say get loudmouth 1's, and then get a PI intake. __________________ Cammed 2v Built By MustangMatt More mods than times your daughter has slept around

December 16th, 2008, 06:35 PM	#5
bkg97gt Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 202 iTrader: 2 reviews	What i bassicly am looking for is will the cam or intake provide the most right now. as for the headers i wish, but thats a hair outa range. Intake or pi cams can be had for fairly cheap

December 17th, 2008, 05:12 PM	#6
bkg97gt Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 202 iTrader: 2 reviews	anyone?

December 17th, 2008, 07:32 PM	#8
bkg97gt Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 202 iTrader: 2 reviews	ok, so does it really have a difference between the two? Ive heard the intake is almost unoticable by itself except for throttle response. Ive heard the cams give you more power through the entire range while the intake is all up high. and finnaly ive heard the Pi cams are useless without the intake.

December 17th, 2008, 07:41 PM	#9
97GT4.6 Hardcore Enthusiast 97 GT 14.2@99.8 @ 4800 ft Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Collins and Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	The intake is noticeable through all rpms, but it REALLY is noticeable at higher RPMS, and the cams are NOT useless with out the intake.. But you get more gains with both. __________________ Cammed 2v Built By MustangMatt More mods than times your daughter has slept around

December 17th, 2008, 08:20 PM	#11
97GT4.6 Hardcore Enthusiast 97 GT 14.2@99.8 @ 4800 ft Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Collins and Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	..Speaking of which, some time can i bring the stang up to lakewood and put in my pi cams at your house? __________________ Cammed 2v Built By MustangMatt More mods than times your daughter has slept around

December 17th, 2008, 08:26 PM	#12
bkg97gt Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 202 iTrader: 2 reviews	im not arguing the fact that both are what i need its just at the moment i can get either one, so im trying to figure out what will be the most benificial to my setup as of now.as to the mufflers its just he really wants to get me a set of mufflers, and he is set on flowmasters due to the fact he can get em for 60bucks through his shop.

December 18th, 2008, 01:17 PM	#13
97GSTANG Regular 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Richland Hills,Texas Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have spl LM1's and I like them but I don get the deep sound like I had with the flowmasters before I put the slp's on...I would say go with flowmasters cheaper and get just as good of a sound just not as loud... __________________ 1997 Mustang GT 1985 Mustang Gt 5.0-Sold

December 18th, 2008, 03:24 PM	#14
97GT4.6 Hardcore Enthusiast 97 GT 14.2@99.8 @ 4800 ft Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Collins and Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	Flowmasters are a lot deeper, but it won't be as loud.. its up to you man __________________ Cammed 2v Built By MustangMatt More mods than times your daughter has slept around

December 18th, 2008, 03:59 PM	#15
mustangracer2g Regular 1997 Mustang GT not as slow... PI swapped :-) Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 275 iTrader: 0 reviews	hmm i think i'd get the exhaust and the intake first... then get the cams later.. the intake should give you noticeable gains by itself alone.. then get the cams later, get em degreed and you're pretty good... as for exhaust, altho i like loud... i think the SLP's are a lil obnoxious for my own taste... i mean i prefer deeper tone to the sheer loudness of the slps.. but it really is all on you, depends on what you want from the exhaust... you already have an x with high flows.. thats already a good gain... with a more freely flowing catback it should be pretty good either way, i'd say go with the flows. __________________ If there's one thing in life you should never take for granted its the ability to drive fast when given the hp to. (PI engine swapped now, so i can go just a lil bit faster haha) oh yeah, and why the hell do imports always try to race me?!

December 18th, 2008, 05:18 PM	#16
moosenuk17 MM Fanatic 2000 ford mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: san diego CA Posts: 4,011 iTrader: 0 reviews	flows and cams bro __________________ 2000 kenne bell GT (440HP-432TQ) Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com dyno vid:http://youtu.be/lr3xpxw2_v8 2011 escape MUSTANG TAT CREW

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December 18th, 2008, 05:38 PM	#17
97GT4.6 Hardcore Enthusiast 97 GT 14.2@99.8 @ 4800 ft Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Collins and Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	Well whatever you end up doing, its going to be good anyways. Whether SLP or Flowmaster, or the Cams or Intake, its all going to be beneficial to your stang. __________________ Cammed 2v Built By MustangMatt More mods than times your daughter has slept around

December 19th, 2008, 11:46 AM	#18
NO_PI_NO_POWER Granny Shifter 1997 Mustang GT 12.297@113.47 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 752 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah I enjoy my Flowmasters, most of the cars I've seen with SLP are real loud, but as with any exhaust, if you keep cats on it, then it will be quieter, I'm switching over to magnaflow, and hopefully quiet it down a little. PI Cams with the npi manifold and npi heads were nice, but definitely got more from my aftermarket cams. __________________ 1997 GT 2.6L Kenne Bell Build Thread 1989 LX

December 19th, 2008, 05:02 PM	#19
bkg97gt Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 202 iTrader: 2 reviews	ok im going the cams and flows. right now its the best for my budget, near the first of the year im getting money back from school so the intake is more likley to happen. i was afraid the cams would hurt the NPI intake or something. thanks for all the help

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