I need some help guys...

xsteadyx7 · January 2nd, 2009, 03:21 PM

so im trying to get some headers for a 1996 Mustang GT...it has the 4.6 L engine. My question is...what kind of headers should i get? I am on a budget and just need something that will get me the most for my money...i also need to know how hard will it be to install the headers...any suggestions?

02sonicGT · January 2nd, 2009, 04:52 PM

read the topped post - do not post in this section!

try searching for your question first. there are a ton of posts about shorty's and long tube inclding the +/- of each. I would save the coin for other improvements personally as you don't gain much from headers early in the game.

Racinjason81 · January 4th, 2009, 07:51 PM

shorty headers cost the least to buy and install and yield the least amount of HP
Midlength headers are a little more expensive and cheaper to install than long tubes
and yield more HP than shorties.they also require a different midpipe like the longtubes do
Longtubes are a little more expensive to buy and install too.Bassani makes a set of midlengths and a modular midpipe that you can use with either their midlengths or longtubes and you can runem with or without cats.installing headers on a 4.6 are a PITA
to do.there are much better things to do before the headers,like a set of 3.73-4.10s,CAI,catback exhaust,MAF,70-75mm TB and adapter.

TheUNZippee! · January 10th, 2009, 08:37 AM

ttt

BAzombie · January 10th, 2009, 05:17 PM

Well everyone is on a budget, just some are bigger than others. j/k.

These are the cheapest I've seen ... Stage 3 Motorsports 1996-04 Mustang GT Pacesetter Long Tube Headers & X Pipe ... For $370 it comes with

If you want to wait for a month or so I'll let you know how they are. I just ordered them. I'm going to put cat's in the x pipe. $180 for 2 cats at AM.Pypes High Flow Ceramic Catalytic Converter Kit at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

02sonicGT · January 10th, 2009, 05:58 PM

a little warning about those cat's, the clamps could be tricky. Unlike standard U-clamps that are merely tighten as much as you can taking turns on each side, with these you need to pay attention to the spacer within the open section of the clamp.

Be VERY sure BEFORE tightening the clamp that the spacer is NOT resting within the threaded section of the bolt. You want it on the ribbed section so it is clear to shift WITHOUT breaking. No big deal if it breaks. just loosen it up then slide it in place. there will be enough left to hold itself in place. It is there to ensure you get an even uniform clamp around the pipe.

Also be sure to cut enough off the xpipe so that when inserted it does NOT extend past the flare of the cat. nothing is inside to stop the pipe from going all the way in and smashing against the insides of this thing doing damage and affecting the sound. The instructions indicate about 9.5"s should be removed.

The have an awesome finish and fit well. They even come with their own O2 sensor bung...meaning you can use them for a wideband o2 sensor in the future.

good luck

BAzombie · January 10th, 2009, 06:17 PM

Thanks for the info Sonic.

I'll probably dig my car out of the garage to install these and my 373's in late Feb or early March. After that I gotta rip the seats out and reupholster them.

She gotta be ready for April. Weather permitting that is.

mustangracer2g · January 12th, 2009, 12:35 AM

damn dude that set up seems dirt cheap... all in all including those nice shiny cats it seems like a great deal. is pacesetter a good brand? im just curious? also what kind of hp/tq gains can u expect from this mod?

Lefty · January 12th, 2009, 12:41 AM

I had a pacesetter o/r x that i welded cats into on my GT. Never had any problems with it

xsteadyx7 · January 27th, 2009, 11:09 AM

Thanx for all the input guys...im really gonna look into those headers, they seem cheap...just let ,me kno how they hold up once you get them on

January 2nd, 2009, 03:21 PM	#1
xsteadyx7 Newbie 1996 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 15 iTrader: 0 reviews	I need some help guys... so im trying to get some headers for a 1996 Mustang GT...it has the 4.6 L engine. My question is...what kind of headers should i get? I am on a budget and just need something that will get me the most for my money...i also need to know how hard will it be to install the headers...any suggestions?

January 4th, 2009, 07:51 PM	#3
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,559 iTrader: 0 reviews	shorty headers cost the least to buy and install and yield the least amount of HP Midlength headers are a little more expensive and cheaper to install than long tubes and yield more HP than shorties.they also require a different midpipe like the longtubes do Longtubes are a little more expensive to buy and install too.Bassani makes a set of midlengths and a modular midpipe that you can use with either their midlengths or longtubes and you can runem with or without cats.installing headers on a 4.6 are a PITA to do.there are much better things to do before the headers,like a set of 3.73-4.10s,CAI,catback exhaust,MAF,70-75mm TB and adapter. __________________ Heres a real funny video youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I VTEC stands for Very Torqueless Economy Car Honda stands for Hold On Not Done Accelerating 1991 LX 5.0 H/B(T-70 turbo coming soon)

January 10th, 2009, 08:37 AM	#4
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	ttt __________________

January 10th, 2009, 05:17 PM	#5
BAzombie Regular 1996 GT Convertible 13.88@100.71 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Queensbury, NY Posts: 360 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well everyone is on a budget, just some are bigger than others. j/k. These are the cheapest I've seen ... Stage 3 Motorsports 1996-04 Mustang GT Pacesetter Long Tube Headers & X Pipe ... For $370 it comes with If you want to wait for a month or so I'll let you know how they are. I just ordered them. I'm going to put cat's in the x pipe. $180 for 2 cats at AM.Pypes High Flow Ceramic Catalytic Converter Kit at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! __________________ Mods: Katzkin Leather, MMR stage II heads w/PI cams, PI intake, Accufab 75mm TB & Plenum, CAI, Ram HDX clutch, Pacesetter LT's & X pipe, Pypes hi-flo cats, Flowmaster cat back,3.73 gears, Sct SF3 tuner, Mamba M2's

January 10th, 2009, 05:58 PM	#6
02sonicGT Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 281 iTrader: 0 reviews	a little warning about those cat's, the clamps could be tricky. Unlike standard U-clamps that are merely tighten as much as you can taking turns on each side, with these you need to pay attention to the spacer within the open section of the clamp. Be VERY sure BEFORE tightening the clamp that the spacer is NOT resting within the threaded section of the bolt. You want it on the ribbed section so it is clear to shift WITHOUT breaking. No big deal if it breaks. just loosen it up then slide it in place. there will be enough left to hold itself in place. It is there to ensure you get an even uniform clamp around the pipe. Also be sure to cut enough off the xpipe so that when inserted it does NOT extend past the flare of the cat. nothing is inside to stop the pipe from going all the way in and smashing against the insides of this thing doing damage and affecting the sound. The instructions indicate about 9.5"s should be removed. The have an awesome finish and fit well. They even come with their own O2 sensor bung...meaning you can use them for a wideband o2 sensor in the future. good luck __________________ 2002 Sonic Blue GT : Manual, FRPP 3.73's, Ram HDX Clutch, Pypes Violator Cat-Back, Pypes catted X-Pipe, Mach1 Chin, SCT Livewire, PLX SM-AFR as Analog input to LW

January 2nd, 2009, 04:52 PM	#2
02sonicGT Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 281 iTrader: 0 reviews	read the topped post - do not post in this section! try searching for your question first. there are a ton of posts about shorty's and long tube inclding the +/- of each. I would save the coin for other improvements personally as you don't gain much from headers early in the game.

January 10th, 2009, 06:17 PM	#7
BAzombie Regular 1996 GT Convertible 13.88@100.71 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Queensbury, NY Posts: 360 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks for the info Sonic. I'll probably dig my car out of the garage to install these and my 373's in late Feb or early March. After that I gotta rip the seats out and reupholster them. She gotta be ready for April. Weather permitting that is. __________________ Mods: Katzkin Leather, MMR stage II heads w/PI cams, PI intake, Accufab 75mm TB & Plenum, CAI, Ram HDX clutch, Pacesetter LT's & X pipe, Pypes hi-flo cats, Flowmaster cat back,3.73 gears, Sct SF3 tuner, Mamba M2's

January 12th, 2009, 12:35 AM	#8
mustangracer2g Regular 1997 Mustang GT not as slow... PI swapped :-) Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 275 iTrader: 0 reviews	damn dude that set up seems dirt cheap... all in all including those nice shiny cats it seems like a great deal. is pacesetter a good brand? im just curious? also what kind of hp/tq gains can u expect from this mod? __________________ If there's one thing in life you should never take for granted its the ability to drive fast when given the hp to. (PI engine swapped now, so i can go just a lil bit faster haha) oh yeah, and why the hell do imports always try to race me?!

January 12th, 2009, 12:41 AM	#9
Lefty The Doctor '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 27,388 iTrader: 11 reviews	I had a pacesetter o/r x that i welded cats into on my GT. Never had any problems with it __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

January 27th, 2009, 11:09 AM	#10
xsteadyx7 Newbie 1996 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 15 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanx for all the input guys...im really gonna look into those headers, they seem cheap...just let ,me kno how they hold up once you get them on

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