F**k its dead

jasons_98gt · March 18th, 2009, 05:14 PM

ehhhhhh shit i was driving around yesterday no problems with the car whatsoever got on the interstate driving around 70mph bang backfire car died now it wont start, cranks but no fire any ideas? havent checked anything out yet..........

BlessedHellride · March 18th, 2009, 05:16 PM

Coil???? perhaps??? Definitely sounds like ignition trouble.

4.6LMadness · March 18th, 2009, 05:35 PM

hey jason, now that i did my PI swap i can smell that sulfur you sad you were getting. Its not sulfur, its unburned fuel. Pull some of your passenger side plugs and tell me what they look like.

jasons_98gt · March 18th, 2009, 09:27 PM

aha! that comes with the pi swap my friend lol, ya i dont know why it smells like that its even worse if your running an o/r pipe. anyways checked my plugs look alright but neither of my coils are firing a spark i think my cam or crank sensor died......

4.6LMadness · March 18th, 2009, 09:34 PM

hmmm.......Sounds like it could be, might have blown a fuse so check those too. That smell is awful with an O/R pipe lol. my passenger side plugs come out with a good amount of carbon on them.

Its just dry carbon and can be wiped right off but would this cause any problems? it has a slight miss to it but im pretty sure its the wires. Going to order new ones here in about a week. Going to get a custom tune too because the car is obviously running to rich. You might want to consider a custom grind too. These diablos arnt designed to handle an upgrade like a PI swap

G.T. Rags · March 18th, 2009, 09:36 PM

did u maybe snap ur crankshaft?

4.6LMadness · March 18th, 2009, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by G.T. Rags

did u maybe snap ur crankshaft?

if it cranks how could he have snapped it? the crank sensor will cause the problem he is having though

97GT4.6 · March 19th, 2009, 01:45 AM

yeah, its possible that one of those sensors took a dump. Did you get a check engine light? If so run the codes, that will help you out.

good luck man.

G.T. Rags · March 19th, 2009, 02:00 AM

he might be confusing his starter turning over for the car cranking, thats y i asked

4.6LMadness · March 19th, 2009, 02:20 AM

ic, hey jason what version is your tuner. i believe i have a fix for the rich condition.

jasons_98gt · March 19th, 2009, 05:46 PM

oh yeah? im going to have to go to the car and take a peek later but i have seen an update on diablos website.....btw i never really got any carbon on my plugs after the head change, how does it idle? did you maybe miss a vac hose or something?

4.6LMadness · March 20th, 2009, 12:51 AM

the right bank is running rich, which would explain the dry carbon i believe. The left bank is running lean. Its really weird. When i updated the tune it fixed the majority of the miss but its still there. Gona pull the plugs one more time to clean and see if im done with it now finally. It idles fine, aside from a little miss from time to time. Sorry bout the questions lol, im suppose to be helping you fix your car.

jasons_98gt · March 20th, 2009, 02:32 AM

lol na its cool i got my shit running again the cam sensor crapped so im in good shape now

jasons_98gt · March 20th, 2009, 02:34 AM

also how old are your 02 sensors? reason i asked is after i did my swap the car idled rough and made an occasional *cough* put new 02 sensors in the front and fixed er right up

4.6LMadness · March 20th, 2009, 11:21 AM

really? o2's are as old as the car itself. It is like a cough noise. Idle just fine and then its like a hiccup or a cough. Ill have to check on prices and get them replaced. What o2's did you buy?

jasons_98gt · March 20th, 2009, 02:00 PM

that might be it then, i know they said 100k intervals but hell i figured i'd wait the the cel light come on to say they were bad if they were a problem, apparently not lol......i bought mine from ford
oh yeah and i only replaced the front 2....

March 18th, 2009, 05:14 PM	#1
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	F**k its dead ehhhhhh shit i was driving around yesterday no problems with the car whatsoever got on the interstate driving around 70mph bang backfire car died now it wont start, cranks but no fire any ideas? havent checked anything out yet..........

March 19th, 2009, 01:45 AM	#8
97GT4.6 Hardcore Enthusiast 97 GT 14.2@99.8 @ 4800 ft Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Collins and Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	yeah, its possible that one of those sensors took a dump. Did you get a check engine light? If so run the codes, that will help you out. good luck man. __________________ Cammed 2v Built By MustangMatt More mods than times your daughter has slept around

March 20th, 2009, 02:00 PM	#16
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	that might be it then, i know they said 100k intervals but hell i figured i'd wait the the cel light come on to say they were bad if they were a problem, apparently not lol......i bought mine from ford oh yeah and i only replaced the front 2.... Last edited by jasons_98gt; March 20th, 2009 at 02:09 PM.

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March 18th, 2009, 05:16 PM	#2
BlessedHellride Regular 1988 Notchback 11.19 @ 122mph N/A Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: DeRidder, Louisiana Posts: 424 iTrader: 0 reviews	Coil???? perhaps??? Definitely sounds like ignition trouble.

March 18th, 2009, 05:35 PM	#3
4.6LMadness Enthusiast 1998 GT Mustang N/A Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth, Ohio Posts: 845 iTrader: 0 reviews	hey jason, now that i did my PI swap i can smell that sulfur you sad you were getting. Its not sulfur, its unburned fuel. Pull some of your passenger side plugs and tell me what they look like.

March 18th, 2009, 09:27 PM	#4
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	aha! that comes with the pi swap my friend lol, ya i dont know why it smells like that its even worse if your running an o/r pipe. anyways checked my plugs look alright but neither of my coils are firing a spark i think my cam or crank sensor died......

March 18th, 2009, 09:34 PM	#5
4.6LMadness Enthusiast 1998 GT Mustang N/A Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth, Ohio Posts: 845 iTrader: 0 reviews	hmmm.......Sounds like it could be, might have blown a fuse so check those too. That smell is awful with an O/R pipe lol. my passenger side plugs come out with a good amount of carbon on them. Its just dry carbon and can be wiped right off but would this cause any problems? it has a slight miss to it but im pretty sure its the wires. Going to order new ones here in about a week. Going to get a custom tune too because the car is obviously running to rich. You might want to consider a custom grind too. These diablos arnt designed to handle an upgrade like a PI swap

March 19th, 2009, 02:20 AM	#10
4.6LMadness Enthusiast 1998 GT Mustang N/A Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth, Ohio Posts: 845 iTrader: 0 reviews	ic, hey jason what version is your tuner. i believe i have a fix for the rich condition.

March 19th, 2009, 05:46 PM	#11
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh yeah? im going to have to go to the car and take a peek later but i have seen an update on diablos website.....btw i never really got any carbon on my plugs after the head change, how does it idle? did you maybe miss a vac hose or something?

March 20th, 2009, 12:51 AM	#12
4.6LMadness Enthusiast 1998 GT Mustang N/A Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth, Ohio Posts: 845 iTrader: 0 reviews	the right bank is running rich, which would explain the dry carbon i believe. The left bank is running lean. Its really weird. When i updated the tune it fixed the majority of the miss but its still there. Gona pull the plugs one more time to clean and see if im done with it now finally. It idles fine, aside from a little miss from time to time. Sorry bout the questions lol, im suppose to be helping you fix your car.

March 20th, 2009, 02:32 AM	#13
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol na its cool i got my shit running again the cam sensor crapped so im in good shape now

March 20th, 2009, 02:34 AM	#14
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	also how old are your 02 sensors? reason i asked is after i did my swap the car idled rough and made an occasional cough put new 02 sensors in the front and fixed er right up

March 20th, 2009, 11:21 AM	#15
4.6LMadness Enthusiast 1998 GT Mustang N/A Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth, Ohio Posts: 845 iTrader: 0 reviews	really? o2's are as old as the car itself. It is like a cough noise. Idle just fine and then its like a hiccup or a cough. Ill have to check on prices and get them replaced. What o2's did you buy?

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