[cruizer]

Ok well I think I decided on going with the 5.4 2v because what you pointed out that I really intend this to be an all around fun car and take to the track maybe a couple times a summer not a strictly track car. In fact, as of now, it is my daily driver in the summers. Its obviously not drivable in the winters because I live in Michigan. And I want to be able to use the stuff I've already bought for my 2v now.

That turbo kit is pretty sweet and the cheapest I've seen one. But will it work on a 5.4? I mean if my long tube headers won't fit on the engine, in the car, with the turbo manifolds fit?

You say you got your supercharger set up for under 1k. How did you do that?

[330CubeGt]

Originally Posted by cruizer Ok well I think I decided on going with the 5.4 2v because what you pointed out that I really intend this to be an all around fun car and take to the track maybe a couple times a summer not a strictly track car. In fact, as of now, it is my daily driver in the summers. Its obviously not drivable in the winters because I live in Michigan. And I want to be able to use the stuff I've already bought for my 2v now. That turbo kit is pretty sweet and the cheapest I've seen one. But will it work on a 5.4? I mean if my long tube headers won't fit on the engine, in the car, with the turbo manifolds fit? You say you got your supercharger set up for under 1k. How did you do that?

Thats the only thing i don't know if there is enuff room to fit i doubt it the damn stock manifolds and or shorty headers have the be grinded down on the pass side to not run the frame rail.And i cant fit my hand between my shock tower and the header
There is always getting a custom made turbo kit.But honestly the easy way would be to do a lightning setup and deal with the motor out of the hood(Or try a big ass cowl).Or go centri, the front of the 4.6 and 5.4 are the same and when the 5.4 is used with the adapter plates to used the 4.5 pi intake im sure that would fit just fine.

Either way you look at it if you go boosted turbo or blown your going to be looking at least a minimum of 2k-2.5k with doing install on your own and you still have to pay 300-500 bucks for a tune

I got the Blower the mid intake the lower the plenum and the t body.Basicaly from the heads up for just under 1k

But then needed to buy more parts.
255 fuel pump 100 new
fuel regulator 100 new
Suercharger tank/Ice box 100-175 new
03/04 fuel injectors 120 used
01-04 Lighting 90mm maf 80 new
03/04 cobra heat extractor 100 used
03/04 cobra supercharger pump 40 used
Moto Blue big bore fuel Rails 100 new
-8 tainless steel line for fuel rail crossover along with Misc An fittings 100 new
K&N 25 used
Intake tube 40 new
Lightning Alternator 40 used
Lightning stock crank pully $30 used
Solid motor mounts(Must if you cut the hood as close as i did) 50 new
5/8Hose for intercooler/supercharger

Thats Ruffly another 1k Not counting shipping.Or a Tune

By the time im done ill have in the ballpark of 2,500 into my setup counting tuning and a few other odds ends ive done,Not that you need to do everything im doing but i have half used,Half new parts just to give you a idea of what it takes.Not to mention how many hours i have tied up in the setup.

[cruizer]

I am planning on going with the 5.4 2v. Is there a certain engine that is better than others? Are the blocks the same? Especially since I would like to bore it out.

[zigbigadoru]

the max you can bore it out is .030 over then you gotta resleeve it. you will want a 00-01 f150 or expedition engine. this is due to it has the updated pi heads but doesnt have the excess weight added in 02+. as far as headers jba, frpp, and stock manifolds fit. your headers will not fit unless you take it to a muffler shop and have them magyver it. if you want long tube headers i suggest buying the new ones that came out recently or sticking to stock or the ones listed above. if you have any more questions please feel free to ask. unless you want a supercharger, then you can get a lightning engine. oh and i live in michigan too and am doing this swap, so if you ever want to meet or anything hit me up.

[330CubeGt]

Originally Posted by zigbigadoru the max you can bore it out is .030 over then you gotta resleeve it. you will want a 00-01 f150 or expedition engine. this is due to it has the updated pi heads but doesnt have the excess weight added in 02+. as far as headers jba, frpp, and stock manifolds fit. your headers will not fit unless you take it to a muffler shop and have them magyver it. if you want long tube headers i suggest buying the new ones that came out recently or sticking to stock or the ones listed above. if you have any more questions please feel free to ask. unless you want a supercharger, then you can get a lightning engine. oh and i live in michigan too and am doing this swap, so if you ever want to meet or anything hit me up.

I dont even think magyver could get them headers to work

[98stanger]

dude just get a pi 4.6 or a built 4.6 it will be cheaper in the long run

[98stanger]

no offense 330

[zigbigadoru]

no not really....

[cruizer]

I have a pi 4.6 or well, I did the pi swap. There is a phrase, "There is no replacement for displacement." And from what I've seen, it looks like building a 5.4 can be done for like the same price as building a 4.6, maybe cheaper because of the lightning parts.

And I was wondering, since I already have the pi swap stuff would it save me any money to get an older engine and do a pi swap on it. And will the newer, you say heavier engines, take more boring? Where would .030 over put me?

[zigbigadoru]

umm well it really depends more on how long you are willing to wait and how much searching your willing to do. i got a pi 5.4 motor for $400. if you can find a shortblock 5.4 then go right ahead and grab it. they wont take any more boring than the lighter versions. the reason for the increased weight is NVH which in essence just means dead weight.....if you want to get technical its for vibrations or some shizz. .030 over would put you at 5.5L

[cruizer]

do they have any good stroker kits for the 5.4? I'd like to get it up to around 350 if I can. Also I have heard getting shorter pistons can also increase your displacement. Any suggestions on pistons?

[zigbigadoru]

yes there is a stroker but there is no point to it and i would even say that it is even on the harmfaul side. it also requires a bunch of other stuff as well. just stick with a 5.4 and be done with it. i have no idea about shorter pistons.

[cruizer]

how much rwhp can the stock internals of a 5.4 take? and is it different depending on which one I buy?

[330CubeGt]

Originally Posted by 98stanger dude just get a pi 4.6 or a built 4.6 it will be cheaper in the long run

No always true

Originally Posted by 98stanger no offense 330

none taken

[330CubeGt]

Originally Posted by cruizer how much rwhp can the stock internals of a 5.4 take? and is it different depending on which one I buy?

Lightning bottom end will take quite a bit
Seen stock lightning motors put down 540/640...


IF you have a Regular 5.4 bottom end hell even if it has a forged crank i wouldnt go anymore then 425RWHP Becaust its still got shit rods/pistons.
A Forged bottom end can be had for fairly cheap.Check out modmax.

[cruizer]

Could I use a 4.6 stroker crank on the 5.4? Is that the same between the engines? It should be right, because the pistons are set up the same distance apart. Its just the connecting rods that I would need longer right?