[sharkbait]

Hey all,

I have had a long time dream of racing harnesses in my car.
I think it would make the car look alot cooler.

I was wondering :

A. Will my stock seats be ok?
B. Iv seen some people mount them to the 4 bolts that hold the seat in. Is that safe?

If you have any suggestions let me know

My goal is to have the front to be on a harness and the back seats be still be usable.
I dont mind having to have someone crawl under or sit between the straps.
Also how much better do you think il be able to pick up chicks?

Thanks!

[330CubeGt]

Rice Much?

[Jazzer The Cat]

Get some GOOD racing seats and anything more than your stock 3 pt. harness is not necessary unless it is a rules requirement or something.

Jazzer

[ModMustang97GT]

Harnesses are a cheap way of making up for the stock shitty seats. I recommend seats over harnesses. That being said, you can use the stock seats if you fab up a bit to hold the shoulder straps in place. The other issue is where you mount the should straps behind you. I can't remember the angle, but there is an angle that you don't want to go past between the seat and where you mount the rear belts. Too sharp an angle and you can compress your spine in an accident.

[takiller]

Originally Posted by sharkbait Hey all, I have had a long time dream of racing harnesses in my car. I think it would make the car look alot cooler. I was wondering : A. Will my stock seats be ok? B. Iv seen some people mount them to the 4 bolts that hold the seat in. Is that safe? If you have any suggestions let me know My goal is to have the front to be on a harness and the back seats be still be usable. I dont mind having to have someone crawl under or sit between the straps. Also how much better do you think il be able to pick up chicks? Thanks!

thats gotta be a joke.........right?

[sharkbait]

Note really a joke, idk iv always loved racing harnesses, Yes i know there total overkill but idk I just really love them. I think seats might be the better option for now.

I saw a car at a carshow with the harness bolted to the 4 floor bolts. At first glance it looked good but idk i had some concerns about the seat snapping and back getting hurt in a collision.

Also i wouldnt call it rice lol... My car isnt the fastest in town. But I take it to Mustang shows often. So for me looks matter.

how hard is it to change out seats in these cars?

[Jazzer The Cat]

I disagree that racing seats are overkill

Pepe my sig and see the Recaro's I run that are extremely comfortable. The "slippery as blocks of ice" stockers I had in my car when I purchased it, were a total joke. Long before I went Griggs, I went Recaro's to keep me planted reguardless of how I drive. I slid all over the place and was downright dangerous to take even the most moddest turn on those things. I run the stock 3 point belts and am completely motionless 100% of the time I drive including my day around Infineon and about 7 AX events so far.

Jazzer... on plantin' that ass

[330CubeGt]

Originally Posted by sharkbait Also i wouldnt call it rice lol... My car isnt the fastest in town. But I take it to Mustang shows often. So for me looks matter

Race Harness = Race Car

Are You taking that thing to HIN...

Im not trying to give you a hard time here, just giving you my honest opinion
If i seen your car at a Show.And seen it had 5 point harness i would laugh...



11.99 E/T

By the time a car is capable of running between 11.00 and 11.99 seconds in the quarter-mile, safety requirements are especially important. Up until this point, factory seatbelts are acceptable, but in the 11-second-and-quicker time zone you need a quality safety harness. The minimum requirement is a 3-inch-wide, five-point harness meeting SFI spec 16.1. The 1995 National Hot Rod Association Rulebook outlines the proper way to mount the shoulder harness and belts.

[3ponies]

Several companies make harness bars for road track events. I like mine. I am not sure this is the way to go for straight line super cars!
Rick

[sharkbait]

Iv heard of these bars.

Where would I be able to find one?

What do you all think would work better
Racing seats or a Harness?

My seats right now have seat covers and the seat overall is very slippery. I end up having to try to hold myself in place when i drive "Quickly".

Also i think my car runs somewere in the 13's. I havnt been able to run it seeing as my parents refuse to sign the waiver.

Motor wise im starting to get to the point were I want it. My original goal was to be a Camaro killer and as I am now able to keep up with some corvettes im very happy with my car =)

[3ponies]

Originally Posted by sharkbait Iv heard of these bars. Where would I be able to find one? What do you all think would work better Racing seats or a Harness? My seats right now have seat covers and the seat overall is very slippery. I end up having to try to hold myself in place when i drive "Quickly". Also i think my car runs somewere in the 13's. I havnt been able to run it seeing as my parents refuse to sign the waiver. Motor wise im starting to get to the point were I want it. My original goal was to be a Camaro killer and as I am now able to keep up with some corvettes im very happy with my car =)

If you are running in the 13s and just doing straight line you really should be ok with just twisting the seat belt a few times before you click it. Road track leather seats are slippery.

Good luck..

[the misfit wolfie]

Originally Posted by 3ponies you really should be ok with just twisting the seat belt a few times before you click it.

what do you mean? i dont understand..

[330CubeGt]

Originally Posted by sharkbait Also i think my car runs somewere in the 13's. I havnt been able to run it seeing as my parents refuse to sign the waiver.

Seeing as you think it will go 13s.You have more done to it now then you have listed in your Garage right?
And what corvettes are you keeping up with a 93 TPI Corvette?Or am i missing something?

And that sucks they won't sign the waiver.My dad was quick to when i was younger because he knew it would keep me off the street

Honestly i would but the summit race seats there all black and look like leather i think there pleather,And it will hold you in place for your "Quick" Driving.

Harness bars are $100 +/-
Mustang 99-04 03 Seat Belt SeatBelt Harness Bar BK 9057:eBay Motors (item 280332273417 end time Oct-06-09 15:08:39 PDT)

Then you can get a Wrap around harness (Black,Blue,Red)
G-FORCE Racing 7140BK - G-FORCE Camlock Drag Racing Harness Sets - Overview - SummitRacing.com

There is also this style which is a tad cheaper
RJS Racing Equipment 50502-16-234 - RJS Latch-Type Harness Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com

[330CubeGt]

Originally Posted by the misfit wolfie what do you mean? i dont understand..

Sounds like some ghetto way of making your seat belt tighter.You could always feed it back in then get it to lock and snap it in if thats the case.

[the misfit wolfie]

Originally Posted by 330CubeGt Sounds like some ghetto way of making your seat belt tighter.You could always feed it back in then get it to lock and snap it in if thats the case.

ooooohhh i see.

[bullitt1861]

im putting 4 point in my bullitt using the bottom 2 bolts from the original seat belt, the cross bar, from where the highest point og the seat belt was, and for the shoulder straps. ill probably just use the rear floor bolts for the seat. you only live once right???!

[ReverendDexter]

Do NOT put a 4, 5 or 6 point harness in your car if you don't have a rollbar in it. That's a HUGE no-no, and incredibly unsafe should you ever be in a rollover.

If you're not wanting to put a rollbar in, go with what Jazzer said and put good seats in.

[bullitt1861]

roll cage or the cross bar?

[bullitt1861]

these are the ones i went with
2) UNIVERSAL CAMLOCK RACING SEAT BELT HARNESS MUSTANG : eBay Motors (item 110469158151 end time Apr-10-10 20:11:19 PDT)
and going with the cross bar
RACING SEAT BELT HARNESS BAR 79-93/99-04 FORD MUSTANG : eBay Motors (item 110418514180 end time Mar-24-10 15:15:15 PDT)

[ModMustang97GT]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter Do NOT put a 4, 5 or 6 point harness in your car if you don't have a rollbar in it. That's a HUGE no-no, and incredibly unsafe should you ever be in a rollover. If you're not wanting to put a rollbar in, go with what Jazzer said and put good seats in.

not entirely true. A Harness bar would be fine. But it needs to be installed correctly.

Ok, when installing the harnesses, you can not have the mounting location of the shoulder straps be greater than a 30 degree angle from the horizontal. That means, no you CAN NOT mount it to the 4 bolts your seat is mounted with.

You also, need to make sure your lap belt is positioned correctly, twisting the belt a bunch of times is not a good idea, its adding stress to a belt specifically designed for a certain application. You don't bash a hammer with the handle end and expect it to work correctly do you?

The roll bar concern is that the harness will hold you in a more rigid position than the stock belts will in the even of a roll over. I don't really believe that is true, but its up to you. I don't recall hearing a good answer to this.

My 2 cents, get race seats. I had an evo for a while and it had normal belts, but recaro seats. They held me in place without an issue, despite the normal 3 point belt. I am planning on pulling the 4 point harness I have in my mustang currently, and getting racing seats instead. Maybe some day, when I get a roll bar, I will put them back in, but not likely (I'll get 5 points instead).