Clutch!!

Steelsoldi3r · February 11th, 2010, 06:10 PM

Hey guys it seems like my clutch is worn out...could i just adjust it? and if so how would i adjust it? also if it is a worn out clutch what would be the best one to buy that is also a desent price? Thanks

97S281 · February 11th, 2010, 06:15 PM

A king cobra clutch is a great low cost replacement for stock. Just make sure to go ahead and replace the t.o.b. as well.

Steelsoldi3r · February 11th, 2010, 06:19 PM

what do u mean by t.o.b?

red01 · February 11th, 2010, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Steelsoldi3r

what do u mean by t.o.b?

tob = throw out bearing. Comes with 99% of the clutch kits you buy.

98FireyGT! · February 11th, 2010, 06:47 PM

tob = tongue on butthole

No, for real though, USE A OEM TOB!

All the others can cause problems.

Steelsoldi3r · February 11th, 2010, 06:58 PM

ok, and is there anyway to adjust the one i have now? and if not how hard is it to replace the TOB and clutch?

LGHTNG02GT · February 11th, 2010, 08:38 PM

you should be able to adjust it some. all you have to do is pull up on the clutch pedal and push it all the way in. (this is assuming you dont already have an adjustable clutch cable and aftermarket quadrant) how many miles do you have on the car??? to replace a clutch you have to at least drop the tranny. clutch kits are maybe 200-400 depending on what you want. i went with a SPEC clutch and just got a Ford Throw out bearing.

Steelsoldi3r · February 11th, 2010, 08:44 PM

I have around 108k to 110k miles and idk if the guy b4 me has changed the clutch or not...how would I find out If it's an aftermarket clutch or not? And how do adjust it?

tfofkyle · February 11th, 2010, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Steelsoldi3r

I have around 108k to 110k miles and idk if the guy b4 me has changed the clutch or not...how would I find out If it's an aftermarket clutch or not? And how do adjust it?

theres no way to tell if the clutch is different other than taking out the trans and looking.

as for the adjustment, ill break it down into the 3 parts for you:

1. look underneath your dash above the clutch pedal. you should see a triangle looking plastic piece - thats your clutch quadrant. chances are if its not plastic - youve got an aftermarket quadrant that doesnt "click" when you pull up on the pedal and push back down. no aftermarket ones that i know of are automatically adjustable like the stock one is. with good reason too, because the stock one tends to bend and can even break if you shift too hard or fast causing missed shifts (ive experienced this myself)

2. jack up the car and find the clutch cable on the drivers side of the transmission. there should be a small rectangular box held on by one bolt. slide it off. dont breathe in the clutch dust - its a carcinogen. if you have a stock, nonadjustable clutch cable, the part where it slides into the clutch fork will be plain. if its adjustable, youll see two adjustment nuts on it. depending on the clutch cable, they usually allow you to tighten up or loosen the cable pretty easily.

3. lastly, pop the hood and look on the driver side firewall near the hydroboost unit. theres a black cable that runs into the firewall there. if it looks black and dull and plastic-y, once again, its probably stock and non-adjustable. if its some type of shiny, chances are its an aftermarket firewall adjuster. this also allows you to adjust the cable tightness, in much more preciseness than the cable underneath.

most people do an adjustable cable and a firewall adjust. they use the cable adjustment to make large adjustments and use the firewall adjuster to fine-tune it, so to speak. although some companies (maximum motorsports comes to mind) say that any aftermarket cables are junk and only ford oem cables are decent - leaving you only with the firewall adjust to set the cable.

personally i havent had the chance to experience my adjustable cable/billet quadrant/firewall adjuster combo from american muscle yet, as i jumped right into my npi head/pi cam/pi intake swap just before i got them in. but from the reviews, it seems if you dont have some type of aftermarket adjustment, it is an awesome difference in how the car drives and feels.

Steelsoldi3r · February 11th, 2010, 09:28 PM

ok well i didnt see firewall adjustment, didnt see triagle thing above pedal, i pulled up on it and it didnt click....wtf do i do now? this car is starting to make me mad.

Help!

Steelsoldi3r · February 11th, 2010, 09:40 PM

ok well i did see a white plastic quadrant....any help? what do i do know since its plastic?

tfofkyle · February 11th, 2010, 09:45 PM

is the clutch slipping? or making noises? or whats the deal with it? you say "worn out" but that can mean any number of things. if you've "overheated" it by banging through the gears more than a couple times, and its a stock, or organic style clutch, chances are youve glazed the clutch surface and its not engaging as hard as it did before. if it doesnt go back to normal after a couple hours cooling off completely, youve really messed up the clutch surface and are going to have to replace.

as for replacements, if youre on a budget like i was, and dont rag on your car too bad, go down to autozone or murrays or wherever and get a stock replacement kit. while youre there get a remanufactured flywheel (it was actually cheaper for me to do this than to have my stock flywheel resurfaced)

to ensure longevity of whatever you get, id suggest you get at the minimum an aftermarket quadrant (the triangle thing) and a firewall adjuster. that way you can easily adjust how it engages and the quadrant will ensure you dont burn up your new clutch due to a broken quadrant.

otherwise, if you wanna shop online, heres what id go with:
86-00 Mustang Sve Mongoose Clutch Kit, 10.5" 10 Spline For 5.0L & 4.6L at LRS - Same Day Shipping!
and
Mustang Clutch Adjuster Kit (96-04) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

without seeing the car in person, i cant really help much more...

Steelsoldi3r · February 11th, 2010, 09:49 PM

ok well if i have the car in reverse and the clutch is pushed all the way in i would give it a little gas and it would make a klunking noise like it was engaging...also i will be rolling really slow and have the clutch pushed all the way in and i cant put it in gear it just scratches...also i start out in first gear sometimes it jumpes foward and backward...idk any help? if i do replace the clutch could i get a king cobra clutch andwith what kind of TOB? Also when i push it in it makes awierd noise but i think thats normal...kinda like a rusty hinge noise when u open a door....?

tfofkyle · February 11th, 2010, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Steelsoldi3r

ok well if i have the car in reverse and the clutch is pushed all the way in i would give it a little gas and it would make a klunking noise like it was engaging...also i will be rolling really slow and have the clutch pushed all the way in and i cant put it in gear it just scratches...also i start out in first gear sometimes it jumpes foward and backward...idk any help? if i do replace the clutch could i get a king cobra clutch andwith what kind of TOB? Also when i push it in it makes awierd noise but i think thats normal...kinda like a rusty hinge noise when u open a door....?

lol none of that sounds normal at all. replace everything asap or have a shop do a clutch job for you. sounds like what happened when my tob went out on my stock clutch. and whatever clutch kit you get, use the regular ford oem throwout beaing.

Steelsoldi3r · February 11th, 2010, 10:24 PM

ok thanks ALOT!! giving rep...so im thinking about getting king cobra clutch with stock oem TOB.....Will itwork?

Steelsoldi3r · February 11th, 2010, 11:32 PM

ok well if i get this clutch... Mustang King Cobra Clutch Kit at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! with this clutch adjuster kit.. Mustang Clutch Adjuster Kit (96-04) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! Would all that go together and would that be all i need? also would the TOB in that be ok since its a ford racing TOB?

LGHTNG02GT · February 12th, 2010, 02:10 AM

yep, those are what you are looking for. some will say to stay away from an adjustable clutch cable tho. i got one from Steeda and havnt had a problem with it. i would assume that because its a Ford Racing clutch, it would have a Ford bearing so you should be ok to use the one in that kit.

tfofkyle · February 12th, 2010, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Steelsoldi3r

ok thanks ALOT!! giving rep...so im thinking about getting king cobra clutch with stock oem TOB.....Will itwork?

appreciated. youll love the new clutch. makes driving the car a lot more fun when everything works correctly lol.

Steelsoldi3r · February 12th, 2010, 11:05 AM

Haha yea I bet am thanks alot, about am hour ago I was sitting at a red light and couldn't put it in gear...the people behind me were probaly mad lol...but I'm gonna go with the ford racing clutch kit and the cable
adjuster...

February 11th, 2010, 06:10 PM	#1
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	Help With my Clutch-Help Hey guys it seems like my clutch is worn out...could i just adjust it? and if so how would i adjust it? also if it is a worn out clutch what would be the best one to buy that is also a desent price? Thanks __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come Last edited by Steelsoldi3r; February 12th, 2010 at 06:49 PM.

February 11th, 2010, 06:15 PM	#2
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Zebulon N.C. Posts: 6,253 iTrader: 13 reviews	A king cobra clutch is a great low cost replacement for stock. Just make sure to go ahead and replace the t.o.b. as well. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

February 11th, 2010, 06:19 PM	#3
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	what do u mean by t.o.b? __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come

February 11th, 2010, 06:47 PM	#5
98FireyGT! Hardon Enflooziast '94 GT Vert Havn't tried... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Spokane Posts: 3,360 iTrader: 0 reviews	tob = tongue on butthole No, for real though, USE A OEM TOB! All the others can cause problems. __________________ Bridget: 98 Mustang GT - PI Swapped, J-Mod and B&M Shifter...wrapped it around a tree sparing a deer - RIP Sephie: 94 Mustang GT Vert - Full 03 cobra suspension and brakes, Magnaflow catback, K&N drop in filter, timed at 12*, SS brake lines,

February 11th, 2010, 06:58 PM	#6
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok, and is there anyway to adjust the one i have now? and if not how hard is it to replace the TOB and clutch? __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come

February 11th, 2010, 08:38 PM	#7
LGHTNG02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 4V swapped '02 GT (2v) 13.9@101 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: H~Town, PA Posts: 1,660 iTrader: 10 reviews	you should be able to adjust it some. all you have to do is pull up on the clutch pedal and push it all the way in. (this is assuming you dont already have an adjustable clutch cable and aftermarket quadrant) how many miles do you have on the car??? to replace a clutch you have to at least drop the tranny. clutch kits are maybe 200-400 depending on what you want. i went with a SPEC clutch and just got a Ford Throw out bearing. __________________ BSD 100MPH Club YMR #8975 4v Swap and a little Purple Bottle MM Nitrous Club #7 MM Cobra Club #87

February 11th, 2010, 08:44 PM	#8
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have around 108k to 110k miles and idk if the guy b4 me has changed the clutch or not...how would I find out If it's an aftermarket clutch or not? And how do adjust it? __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come

February 11th, 2010, 09:28 PM	#10
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok well i didnt see firewall adjustment, didnt see triagle thing above pedal, i pulled up on it and it didnt click....wtf do i do now? this car is starting to make me mad. Help! __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come

February 11th, 2010, 09:40 PM	#11
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok well i did see a white plastic quadrant....any help? what do i do know since its plastic? __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come

February 11th, 2010, 09:45 PM	#12
tfofkyle Hardcore Enthusiast 96 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,603 iTrader: 0 reviews	is the clutch slipping? or making noises? or whats the deal with it? you say "worn out" but that can mean any number of things. if you've "overheated" it by banging through the gears more than a couple times, and its a stock, or organic style clutch, chances are youve glazed the clutch surface and its not engaging as hard as it did before. if it doesnt go back to normal after a couple hours cooling off completely, youve really messed up the clutch surface and are going to have to replace. as for replacements, if youre on a budget like i was, and dont rag on your car too bad, go down to autozone or murrays or wherever and get a stock replacement kit. while youre there get a remanufactured flywheel (it was actually cheaper for me to do this than to have my stock flywheel resurfaced) to ensure longevity of whatever you get, id suggest you get at the minimum an aftermarket quadrant (the triangle thing) and a firewall adjuster. that way you can easily adjust how it engages and the quadrant will ensure you dont burn up your new clutch due to a broken quadrant. otherwise, if you wanna shop online, heres what id go with: 86-00 Mustang Sve Mongoose Clutch Kit, 10.5" 10 Spline For 5.0L & 4.6L at LRS - Same Day Shipping! and Mustang Clutch Adjuster Kit (96-04) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! without seeing the car in person, i cant really help much more...

February 11th, 2010, 09:49 PM	#13
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok well if i have the car in reverse and the clutch is pushed all the way in i would give it a little gas and it would make a klunking noise like it was engaging...also i will be rolling really slow and have the clutch pushed all the way in and i cant put it in gear it just scratches...also i start out in first gear sometimes it jumpes foward and backward...idk any help? if i do replace the clutch could i get a king cobra clutch andwith what kind of TOB? Also when i push it in it makes awierd noise but i think thats normal...kinda like a rusty hinge noise when u open a door....? __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come Last edited by Steelsoldi3r; February 11th, 2010 at 09:52 PM.

February 11th, 2010, 10:24 PM	#15
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok thanks ALOT!! giving rep...so im thinking about getting king cobra clutch with stock oem TOB.....Will itwork? __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come

February 11th, 2010, 11:32 PM	#16
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok well if i get this clutch... Mustang King Cobra Clutch Kit at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! with this clutch adjuster kit.. Mustang Clutch Adjuster Kit (96-04) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! Would all that go together and would that be all i need? also would the TOB in that be ok since its a ford racing TOB? __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come

February 12th, 2010, 02:10 AM	#17
LGHTNG02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 4V swapped '02 GT (2v) 13.9@101 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: H~Town, PA Posts: 1,660 iTrader: 10 reviews	yep, those are what you are looking for. some will say to stay away from an adjustable clutch cable tho. i got one from Steeda and havnt had a problem with it. i would assume that because its a Ford Racing clutch, it would have a Ford bearing so you should be ok to use the one in that kit. __________________ BSD 100MPH Club YMR #8975 4v Swap and a little Purple Bottle MM Nitrous Club #7 MM Cobra Club #87

February 12th, 2010, 11:05 AM	#19
Steelsoldi3r Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deer Park, Texas Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	Haha yea I bet am thanks alot, about am hour ago I was sitting at a red light and couldn't put it in gear...the people behind me were probaly mad lol...but I'm gonna go with the ford racing clutch kit and the cable adjuster... __________________ 3.55 gears, Cai, magnaflow exhaust, advanced timing to 12 degrees,underdrive pullies, throttle body spacer, plenum intake spacer, BBK o/r H-pipe, king cobra clutch....havent gone to the dyno, more to come

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