Car is bogging down/ has little power (Videos)

koessl · February 27th, 2010, 05:11 PM

I put the car up on the lift, and saw some fluid dripping, I noticed it was white/purple. So I opened up my valve cover to check out how it looked under there... And it looked like I poured milk in instead of royal purple.

I don't really know where I can go from here. I already spent quite a bit on this swap. Idk.. Just didn't make for a good day I guess.

sharkbait · February 27th, 2010, 05:32 PM

Calm down first. Deep breath.

First drain it all out. Just open it and get it all out of there. Then id grab some of the cheapest oil you can get and run it threw there a few times. Just to clean it out. Then lets work from there. Now is all of this after the pi swap?

koessl · February 27th, 2010, 07:11 PM

yea it is

sharkbait · February 27th, 2010, 07:52 PM

Are all your headbolts tight? Maybe a head gasket leak?

koessl · February 27th, 2010, 08:08 PM

I torqued them all, in the right sequence, and did the XXlbs, turn a 1/4 turn, undo one whole turn, Torque to XXlbs, turn 1/4 turn deal.

I didnt check the heads for flatness though.

BAD98GT · February 27th, 2010, 08:15 PM

When the engine is cold and you start it up do you have air bubbles appearing in your radiator? This could indicate a blown head gasket that is leaking coolant when you shut your engine off and it cools off. Other possible causes are a crack in a head, cylinder liner or block. Did you ever overheat the engine severely? This may have caused a crack in the block or head. Remove the spark plugs after the engine has cooled and observe each cylinder If you are blowing a mist or coolant this would narrow it down to a head gasket or a head. Otherwise, you are f-----.

You have a cracked block

tfofkyle · February 27th, 2010, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by koessl

I torqued them all, in the right sequence, and did the XXlbs, turn a 1/4 turn, undo one whole turn, Torque to XXlbs, turn 1/4 turn deal.

I didnt check the heads for flatness though.

theres your problem. always always always at least have the heads checked to make sure you dont have to tear it apart again. my brother just went through a second head gasket on his taurus because when they replaced everything they didnt bother checking the heads at all. even the slightest scratch on the heads will be problematic. also, when installing, get as many sets of hands as you can and take your time positioning because scratching the head surface on a dowel can cause a similar problem. im having my npi heads which were freshly rebuilt (from the last owner) resurfaced one more time just to make sure theyre safe. i know how you feel about the swap. my engines down to the shortblock and i dont wanna do this again. lesson learned though.

koessl · February 27th, 2010, 10:47 PM

Im not losing coolant though. I was last week... like crazy, but now... its staying at a constant level.

tfofkyle · March 1st, 2010, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by koessl

Im not losing coolant though. I was last week... like crazy, but now... its staying at a constant level.

any updates on this yet? hows the oil look? on a side note you have a very clean car.

koessl · March 1st, 2010, 10:28 AM

No not yet, I have to wait until the AutoSkills center on base opens up (tuesday).

And thanks! Ill take whatever compliments I can get on a car I cant drive!

Speedstang302 · March 1st, 2010, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by koessl

No not yet, I have to wait until the AutoSkills center on base opens up (tuesday).

And thanks! Ill take whatever compliments I can get on a car I cant drive!

how do you think i feel. my sounds like crap right now with the valve problem and burning oil due to my great valve cover gasket install job lol. it either sits out infront of the shop or infront of my house..and since the tint and new wheels...i get compliments all the time..then have to walk away with my tail between my legs mumbling to myself how big a turd it is when you start it

whtstang97 · March 1st, 2010, 02:07 PM

the squeking sounds like the alternator. mine does the same thing after the pi swap. We put like a whole can of wd40 and it still doesn't go away...ehhh

4.slo? · March 1st, 2010, 03:45 PM

Just wondering, did you reuse the old headbolts? My car has no O2 sensors, they are off, not even connected, passes inspection every year, I guess my diablo chip is bad ass!

Your bogging down is from the water in the cylinders.

4.slo? · March 1st, 2010, 03:57 PM

If Iam not mistaken I think I saw you are missing a clamp on your CAi by the maf. It will suck in air causing it to bog like that too.

koessl · March 1st, 2010, 04:02 PM

the clamp is there now, haha. I lost it... then found it the day after the pics/vids

4.slo? · March 1st, 2010, 06:24 PM

You did use new headbolts right?

koessl · March 1st, 2010, 10:35 PM

oh hell yea. Spent 90 bucks on those damn things.

tfofkyle · March 2nd, 2010, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by 4.slo?

You did use new headbolts right?

Originally Posted by koessl

oh hell yea. Spent 90 bucks on those damn things.

dont quote me on this, but look it up if you feel interested. but the factory style torque-to-yield bolts i believe can be retorqued up to 5 times total. from the factory they are torqued down twice (as per the ford manual) and can probably at least be torqued down another two times during a head swap. after the fifth time though, theyve stretched too far and need to be replaced.

koessl · March 2nd, 2010, 06:54 PM

I'm going to quote you on that. Dont try and stop me.

tfofkyle · March 2nd, 2010, 11:16 PM

NOT IF I QUOTE YOU FIRST!

Originally Posted by koessl

I'm going to quote you on that. Dont try and stop me.

:O :O :O WHAT NOWWWW

get your car running. lets cruise.

nevermind that mine is fully disassembled lol.

February 27th, 2010, 05:11 PM	#21
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	I put the car up on the lift, and saw some fluid dripping, I noticed it was white/purple. So I opened up my valve cover to check out how it looked under there... And it looked like I poured milk in instead of royal purple. I don't really know where I can go from here. I already spent quite a bit on this swap. Idk.. Just didn't make for a good day I guess. __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

February 27th, 2010, 05:32 PM	#22
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.99 @ 113.9mph Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,632 iTrader: 9 reviews	Calm down first. Deep breath. First drain it all out. Just open it and get it all out of there. Then id grab some of the cheapest oil you can get and run it threw there a few times. Just to clean it out. Then lets work from there. Now is all of this after the pi swap? __________________ 374rwhp 456rwtq @ 8psi

February 27th, 2010, 07:11 PM	#23
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea it is __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

February 27th, 2010, 07:52 PM	#24
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.99 @ 113.9mph Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,632 iTrader: 9 reviews	Are all your headbolts tight? Maybe a head gasket leak? __________________ 374rwhp 456rwtq @ 8psi

February 27th, 2010, 08:08 PM	#25
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	I torqued them all, in the right sequence, and did the XXlbs, turn a 1/4 turn, undo one whole turn, Torque to XXlbs, turn 1/4 turn deal. I didnt check the heads for flatness though. __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

February 27th, 2010, 08:15 PM	#26
BAD98GT Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 949 iTrader: 0 reviews	When the engine is cold and you start it up do you have air bubbles appearing in your radiator? This could indicate a blown head gasket that is leaking coolant when you shut your engine off and it cools off. Other possible causes are a crack in a head, cylinder liner or block. Did you ever overheat the engine severely? This may have caused a crack in the block or head. Remove the spark plugs after the engine has cooled and observe each cylinder If you are blowing a mist or coolant this would narrow it down to a head gasket or a head. Otherwise, you are f-----. You have a cracked block

February 27th, 2010, 10:47 PM	#28
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	Im not losing coolant though. I was last week... like crazy, but now... its staying at a constant level. __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 1st, 2010, 10:28 AM	#30
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	No not yet, I have to wait until the AutoSkills center on base opens up (tuesday). And thanks! Ill take whatever compliments I can get on a car I cant drive! __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 1st, 2010, 02:07 PM	#32
whtstang97 Regular 1997 Mustang Gt 13.76 @ 102.5mph Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 111 iTrader: 1 reviews	the squeking sounds like the alternator. mine does the same thing after the pi swap. We put like a whole can of wd40 and it still doesn't go away...ehhh __________________ Pi Heads, BBk Longtubes, 3.73 Gears, Mac pulleys, CAI, Short shifter, Intrax Springs 13.76 @102.5mph 14.0 @ 99mph npi 12.6 @ 108mph w/75shot

March 1st, 2010, 03:45 PM	#33
4.slo? Regular 95 & 97 GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Garland, tx Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just wondering, did you reuse the old headbolts? My car has no O2 sensors, they are off, not even connected, passes inspection every year, I guess my diablo chip is bad ass! Your bogging down is from the water in the cylinders. __________________ 97gt Pi swapped, sreamin demon coils, taylor wires, diablo chip, cai, 3.73s. 9.3 in 1/8 with no traction. Boosted 95GT under construction.

March 1st, 2010, 03:57 PM	#34
4.slo? Regular 95 & 97 GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Garland, tx Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	If Iam not mistaken I think I saw you are missing a clamp on your CAi by the maf. It will suck in air causing it to bog like that too. __________________ 97gt Pi swapped, sreamin demon coils, taylor wires, diablo chip, cai, 3.73s. 9.3 in 1/8 with no traction. Boosted 95GT under construction.

March 1st, 2010, 04:02 PM	#35
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	the clamp is there now, haha. I lost it... then found it the day after the pics/vids __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 1st, 2010, 06:24 PM	#36
4.slo? Regular 95 & 97 GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Garland, tx Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	You did use new headbolts right? __________________ 97gt Pi swapped, sreamin demon coils, taylor wires, diablo chip, cai, 3.73s. 9.3 in 1/8 with no traction. Boosted 95GT under construction.

March 1st, 2010, 10:35 PM	#37
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh hell yea. Spent 90 bucks on those damn things. __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 2nd, 2010, 06:54 PM	#39
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm going to quote you on that. Dont try and stop me. __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

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