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Old February 28th, 2010, 10:30 PM   #1
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do i need everything they recomend? probably better to get it i assume....link some things i should get.
so what is the 2000 plus stall speed converter for automatic transmissions?
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yes u def need to get the valve springs and the tuner, the cams produce more lift than what stock spring can provide, therefor IF(highly doubtful), IF it dont mess anything up your engine will make a tapping sound which is the valve springs are being pushed beond its limits, and can break or cause damage to the heads/etc, and yes you will need a tuner also, cause ur computer has no idea what u have done to the motor, it will equalize your intake/exhaust, so it understands and can adjust for the mods u have done and get the max potential out of ur cams
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im using the bbk shorty headers now, alot of people dont care for the shorty's they prefer the long tube headers, the long headers will produce a more deeper sound if im not mistaken.
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ah ok. what is a good tuner to get...and valve springs. the long ones will be louder too then right..
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with cams youll need a dyno tune. Call around and ask shops what they charge. They normall will hook you up with the tuner and your tune at one time
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wuts the stall converter? do i need one? how much do they run for?
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Stall convters.....

ok umm pretty much how they work, in your car right now... if its an auto... the transmission under 1800 rpm slips per say, then at 1800 and above the converter locks up and makes the connection between the trans and the engine solid. Putting a higher stall in lets you launch at a higher rpm, but also makes those lower rpms less usable.

This explanation is horrible and id recommend googling it.

I wouldnt really worry about the stall though, you have to drop the trans to install it
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A stall converter allows your engine to wind up higher before it really takes hold. So to choose a stall converter you need to determine the rpm you really start to make power to determine the correct stall speed. Before I got mine I called the company and they asked how my car was set up to determine the correct stall speed. A converter will run around $700 or so depending on the brand. As stated earlier you need to pull the tranny to install one.
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if im right comp cams sells beehive springs for $189.99 that can handle upto .550" lift and trickflow if im right for like $229 or something like that sells some beehive springs that can handle upto .600" lift..

whats the limit for the stock relief on these cars guys? im thinking at some point going cms stage II's
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Iv'e got a set of lightly used XE 278 AH cams for half that price if your interested just PM me.
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Iv'e got a set of lightly used XE 278 AH cams for half that price if your interested just PM me.
yeah but whats required with that big of a cam? im interested!
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yeah but whats required with that big of a cam? im interested!
3.55 gears, intake, exhaust, spring upgrade, 2400 stall and you may need to have your pistons notched. You can have your pistons notched with the motor in the car though.

From the looks of what you have in your sig, you would just need the springs and to get your piston notched.
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Oh, they already have cam gears on them too.
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fuuck...i do not wanna pay 700 for that converter. and im not going to...

would i be good if i get gears and new valve springs? is there anything else that i need or should get with that cam
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Originally Posted by 97S281 View Post
3.55 gears, intake, exhaust, spring upgrade, 2400 stall and you may need to have your pistons notched. You can have your pistons notched with the motor in the car though.

From the looks of what you have in your sig, you would just need the springs and to get your piston notched.
3:73s, pi intake, jlt cold air, lt's, cat x, slp lm1's, 5spd..

but as far as the pistons notch..anyone know what the legit relief limit is? these 278H's are the .550 lift right? cuz im going to do the comp beehives with it!
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I suggest if you put the larger cams in to get the stall converter, do it right the first time. You can get a converter cheaper than $700 if you shop around
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hey quit /thread jacking. this is my thread, gtfo.....
whoa whoa whoa lol who said he was really talking to you and not me..you wanted the dinky little 270h...cant handle the big guy! lmao
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i know nothing about cams.....even sizes, thats why i am asking a question cause i dont know that a fucking big size is.....
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