BBk shorty header problem

jg42122 · March 10th, 2010, 01:34 AM

I am trying to install some shorty headers, on my 96 gt, the drivers side went in fine, but the passengers side keeps getting stuck on the side of the car, and wont fit. Are their any write ups or documents online?

sharkbait · March 10th, 2010, 01:49 AM

use a hammer?

97S281 · March 10th, 2010, 05:13 PM

I know sometimes you have to undo the motor mounts and jack up the engine a little bit to get the headers into place.

jg42122 · March 10th, 2010, 06:52 PM

Yes but if I undo the motor mounts and jack it up won't that put the weight of the engine on the Headers when I sit it back down?

97S281 · March 10th, 2010, 08:30 PM

Are you saying the header will not fit in the space, or are you saying you cannot get the header into position? Once you have it in position and have the bolts in it should fit in the engine bay. If not, take a hammer to the point where it is making contact and "massage" the space to make it fit.

It can be a beeotch to get into position, but it really should fit. What brand are you installing?

BAD98GT · March 10th, 2010, 08:59 PM

i have the bbk shorties and there is only an inch or so for space.

(tight fit on pass side) unbolt the motor mount and raise a little bit, be careful on dropping it back down, it has like one spot where it will fall back into place, only with an inch to spare, use a lil elbow grease

, it'll go!

jg42122 · March 10th, 2010, 09:22 PM

Thanks I am using BBK I have my headers off doing a head swap as well so I am trying to install them both as one piece, driver side went on fine, but the passengers side is where the trouble is.

97S281 · March 10th, 2010, 09:24 PM

Yeah, that's the hard side.

jasons_98gt · March 11th, 2010, 12:03 AM

any luck yet? i put shorties on my car but didnt take the heads off went did it up from top when the engine was lifted had to finess her a lil but to lower it back down though

jg42122 · March 11th, 2010, 12:47 AM

I did not get to go at it this eveningbusy with work, Friday should be the day! How do you go about unbolting the motor mount

jasons_98gt · March 11th, 2010, 01:26 AM

look at the k frame you will see where the motor mounts are
directly below theres a bolt on each side undo the bolt and you can jack the motor up with a block of wood and carjack on the oil pan

JohnC · March 11th, 2010, 01:37 AM

I installed mine out of the car like in 2005. If I recall correctly, I don't see how you can get to the lower/center bolts on the passengers side with the engine mount on anyway.

So if I am recalling right, I suggest removing the engine mount and/or even dropping the K.

I TQ'd every bolt I could, and tried my best to match the TQ load by hand on the ones I couldn't get my socket/TQ-wrench on. I don't have any header exhaust leaks and they've been on the car since 2005 and just over 22,000 miles.

March 10th, 2010, 01:34 AM	#1
jg42122 Regular 96 Frankenstang Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ky Posts: 114 iTrader: 0 reviews	BBk shorty header problem I am trying to install some shorty headers, on my 96 gt, the drivers side went in fine, but the passengers side keeps getting stuck on the side of the car, and wont fit. Are their any write ups or documents online?

March 10th, 2010, 01:49 AM	#2
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.99 @ 113.9mph Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,630 iTrader: 9 reviews	use a hammer? __________________ 374rwhp 456rwtq @ 8psi

March 10th, 2010, 05:13 PM	#3
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Zebulon N.C. Posts: 6,259 iTrader: 13 reviews	I know sometimes you have to undo the motor mounts and jack up the engine a little bit to get the headers into place. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

March 10th, 2010, 08:30 PM	#5
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Zebulon N.C. Posts: 6,259 iTrader: 13 reviews	Are you saying the header will not fit in the space, or are you saying you cannot get the header into position? Once you have it in position and have the bolts in it should fit in the engine bay. If not, take a hammer to the point where it is making contact and "massage" the space to make it fit. It can be a beeotch to get into position, but it really should fit. What brand are you installing? __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

March 10th, 2010, 08:59 PM	#6
BAD98GT Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 949 iTrader: 0 reviews	i have the bbk shorties and there is only an inch or so for space.(tight fit on pass side) unbolt the motor mount and raise a little bit, be careful on dropping it back down, it has like one spot where it will fall back into place, only with an inch to spare, use a lil elbow grease, it'll go!

March 10th, 2010, 06:52 PM	#4
jg42122 Regular 96 Frankenstang Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ky Posts: 114 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yes but if I undo the motor mounts and jack it up won't that put the weight of the engine on the Headers when I sit it back down?

March 10th, 2010, 09:22 PM	#7
jg42122 Regular 96 Frankenstang Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ky Posts: 114 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks I am using BBK I have my headers off doing a head swap as well so I am trying to install them both as one piece, driver side went on fine, but the passengers side is where the trouble is.

March 10th, 2010, 09:24 PM	#8
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Zebulon N.C. Posts: 6,259 iTrader: 13 reviews	Yeah, that's the hard side. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

March 11th, 2010, 12:03 AM	#9
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	any luck yet? i put shorties on my car but didnt take the heads off went did it up from top when the engine was lifted had to finess her a lil but to lower it back down though

March 11th, 2010, 12:47 AM	#10
jg42122 Regular 96 Frankenstang Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ky Posts: 114 iTrader: 0 reviews	I did not get to go at it this eveningbusy with work, Friday should be the day! How do you go about unbolting the motor mount

March 11th, 2010, 01:26 AM	#11
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	look at the k frame you will see where the motor mounts are directly below theres a bolt on each side undo the bolt and you can jack the motor up with a block of wood and carjack on the oil pan

March 11th, 2010, 01:37 AM	#12
JohnC Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 13.56@102.94 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Murfreesboro and Old Hickory, TN Posts: 722 iTrader: 1 reviews	I installed mine out of the car like in 2005. If I recall correctly, I don't see how you can get to the lower/center bolts on the passengers side with the engine mount on anyway. So if I am recalling right, I suggest removing the engine mount and/or even dropping the K. I TQ'd every bolt I could, and tried my best to match the TQ load by hand on the ones I couldn't get my socket/TQ-wrench on. I don't have any header exhaust leaks and they've been on the car since 2005 and just over 22,000 miles. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT Aluminum Block PI swap & 4R70W to TR3550 swapped. Best 1/8: 2.04 60ft 8.74@81.85 & Best 1/4: 2.045 60ft 13.56@102.94 all on stock 245-17's My Garage

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