Turning engine over by hand. help.

koessl · March 17th, 2010, 09:11 PM

How hard should this be to turn over with the spark plugs out? Its been sitting for about a week. On a scale of 1-10 its like a 8-9 to move this damn thing.

jasons_98gt · March 17th, 2010, 09:24 PM

Ooo you using a wrench or ratchet? i know when i turned my by hand i used a 1/2 ratchet even after sitting overnight it was pretty easy bringing it up to compression stroke it would stop here and there but that was with plugs in
have you messed with the timing or anything?

koessl · March 17th, 2010, 09:27 PM

Not since I finished the swap (2 weeks ago), I've had it out driving since then. I was trying to see if the engine is seized. (backround story) I was driving. Car died while coming to a stop. Now car wont start. (starter clicks once)

This leaves me with an Electrical issue (starter not getting the current it needs to turn engine over) or a mechanical issue ( a siezed engine).

jasons_98gt · March 17th, 2010, 09:28 PM

oh wait its you again! haha
damn that poor thing still giving you problems??????

jasons_98gt · March 17th, 2010, 09:31 PM

shit man! being honest here on a 8-9 scale thats pretty damn hard could of partially seized on ya you said it turns but just real hard, reason i say partially.
those oil pressure gauges on our dashes arent worth a fuck!

koessl · March 17th, 2010, 09:32 PM

yea man. I need to know if this is fucked or not. if so, theres a freshly rebuilt PI swapped motor (78000 mile bottom half, brand new top half, P/P intake, and TB, that I might be able to pickup for a grand.)

If not, I will be ecstatic and start driving after I figure this elec problem.

koessl · March 17th, 2010, 09:32 PM

I was putting most of my wieght into it, (all 160 lbs of me ha) and it would barely move.

jasons_98gt · March 17th, 2010, 09:40 PM

damn man thats not good shouldnt take that much hell i can turn my engine by i hand with a wrench, did you ever pull your starter? i would pull it maybe something happend and it jammed in your flywheel i have seen this happen before, to a buddy actually not a mustang but a lumina, he beat it all to death constantly and one day it wouldnt start so i checked it out and his just clicked new battery etc tried turning it by hand it was hard and his starter shaft was stuck in the flywheel

koessl · March 17th, 2010, 09:41 PM

DId it click once, or multiple times?

jasons_98gt · March 17th, 2010, 09:43 PM

just once then i banged it then it made a hideous grind haha like when you try starting a car after its started haha then it just clicked again

koessl · March 17th, 2010, 10:07 PM

hmm. maybe I should go hit my starter then?

jasons_98gt · March 18th, 2010, 12:21 AM

try it dont slam on it though but just give it a few light taps
i would pull it though if i was you and have it checked though, sounds to me that your starter is stuck/shot
let me know what you find out

koessl · March 18th, 2010, 12:49 AM

How would that shut down my engine while driving though?

jasons_98gt · March 18th, 2010, 01:23 AM

Oh shit yeah that happened while you was driving!
forgot about that....you may be looking at bad news bro

koessl · March 18th, 2010, 01:59 AM

ugh

330CubeGt · March 18th, 2010, 02:26 AM

lol, I just did this 2 days ago while unbolting TC Bolts and it was cake, You might be stuck on a compression stroke which makes it harder to turn.But judging by your weight your a little guy and my might have enough ass to do it if you know what i mean

jasons_98gt · March 18th, 2010, 01:25 PM

^
you got a point there
but im only a 180lbs and it didnt take much at all to turn the engine in mine even going up on the compression stroke...

sharkbait · March 18th, 2010, 02:07 PM

He said the spark plugs are out

koessl · March 18th, 2010, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by sharkbait

He said the spark plugs are out

Yes, plugs are out... comp shouldnt be an issue...

jasons_98gt · March 21st, 2010, 12:50 AM

hey figure out that problem yet??

March 17th, 2010, 09:11 PM	#1
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	Turning engine over by hand. help. How hard should this be to turn over with the spark plugs out? Its been sitting for about a week. On a scale of 1-10 its like a 8-9 to move this damn thing. __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 17th, 2010, 09:27 PM	#3
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	Not since I finished the swap (2 weeks ago), I've had it out driving since then. I was trying to see if the engine is seized. (backround story) I was driving. Car died while coming to a stop. Now car wont start. (starter clicks once) This leaves me with an Electrical issue (starter not getting the current it needs to turn engine over) or a mechanical issue ( a siezed engine). __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 17th, 2010, 09:32 PM	#6
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea man. I need to know if this is fucked or not. if so, theres a freshly rebuilt PI swapped motor (78000 mile bottom half, brand new top half, P/P intake, and TB, that I might be able to pickup for a grand.) If not, I will be ecstatic and start driving after I figure this elec problem. __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 17th, 2010, 09:32 PM	#7
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was putting most of my wieght into it, (all 160 lbs of me ha) and it would barely move. __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 17th, 2010, 09:41 PM	#9
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	DId it click once, or multiple times? __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 17th, 2010, 09:24 PM	#2
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ooo you using a wrench or ratchet? i know when i turned my by hand i used a 1/2 ratchet even after sitting overnight it was pretty easy bringing it up to compression stroke it would stop here and there but that was with plugs in have you messed with the timing or anything?

March 17th, 2010, 09:28 PM	#4
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh wait its you again! haha damn that poor thing still giving you problems??????

March 17th, 2010, 09:31 PM	#5
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	shit man! being honest here on a 8-9 scale thats pretty damn hard could of partially seized on ya you said it turns but just real hard, reason i say partially. those oil pressure gauges on our dashes arent worth a fuck!

March 17th, 2010, 09:40 PM	#8
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	damn man thats not good shouldnt take that much hell i can turn my engine by i hand with a wrench, did you ever pull your starter? i would pull it maybe something happend and it jammed in your flywheel i have seen this happen before, to a buddy actually not a mustang but a lumina, he beat it all to death constantly and one day it wouldnt start so i checked it out and his just clicked new battery etc tried turning it by hand it was hard and his starter shaft was stuck in the flywheel

March 17th, 2010, 09:43 PM	#10
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	just once then i banged it then it made a hideous grind haha like when you try starting a car after its started haha then it just clicked again

March 17th, 2010, 10:07 PM	#11
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	hmm. maybe I should go hit my starter then? __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 18th, 2010, 12:21 AM	#12
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	try it dont slam on it though but just give it a few light taps i would pull it though if i was you and have it checked though, sounds to me that your starter is stuck/shot let me know what you find out

March 18th, 2010, 12:49 AM	#13
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	How would that shut down my engine while driving though? __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 18th, 2010, 01:23 AM	#14
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	Oh shit yeah that happened while you was driving! forgot about that....you may be looking at bad news bro

March 18th, 2010, 01:59 AM	#15
koessl Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 GT suckaaa 4 tickets @ 1 stop Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	ugh __________________ Military Crew Completely stock... I promise.

March 18th, 2010, 02:26 AM	#16
330CubeGt MM Fanatic 1994 Mustang 5.0 1996 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 4,866 iTrader: 14 reviews	lol, I just did this 2 days ago while unbolting TC Bolts and it was cake, You might be stuck on a compression stroke which makes it harder to turn.But judging by your weight your a little guy and my might have enough ass to do it if you know what i mean __________________ -04 IRS - Magnaflow - Wheel Replica - Autometer - FTBR - FRPP - SCT - Brembo - PRO 5.0 - BOI-

March 18th, 2010, 01:25 PM	#17
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ you got a point there but im only a 180lbs and it didnt take much at all to turn the engine in mine even going up on the compression stroke...

March 18th, 2010, 02:07 PM	#18
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.99 @ 113.9mph Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,632 iTrader: 9 reviews	He said the spark plugs are out __________________ 374rwhp 456rwtq @ 8psi

March 21st, 2010, 12:50 AM	#20
jasons_98gt Enthusiast 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 834 iTrader: 0 reviews	hey figure out that problem yet??

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