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post #1 of 17 Old March 24th, 2010, 10:37 AM Thread Starter
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4.6 upgrades v. 5.4 upgrades (Cheaper?)

Is it cheaper to make the 4.6 faster than the 5.4 than making the 5.4 faster than itself.

If so can you explain the difference on what would need to be done as far as modification and the average price difference.

I was thinking that bolt ons for the 4.6 would be cheaper in order to make it faster than the 5.4 and it would cost more to make the 5.4 faster than itself.
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Well do you own either of the engines ? If you already own a 4.6 it is gonna be cheaper because you already have the block, same with the 5.4. With either block, you can put as much into it as you want to. Their does seem to be a lot of cheap 4.6 engines online the main thing you should do is forge the engine with some good parts, don't skimp on that part, then you can pretty much do anything you want to with it as far as power adders go.
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A lot of the parts between the two cars are interchangeable. The only difficult parts are the intake manifolds and the headers depending on whether you have a 2V or 4V. Everything else outside of the engine (CAI, exhaust, ect) is useable on the 4.6 and 5.4.


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I have a 4.6 mustang gt and a 5.4 mustang gt, both 98. I want to do street/drag but only on one of the cars and wanted to know which would be cheaper to modify and make faster.
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The same parts will get you more of a return (hp/tq) with the 5.4 instead of the 4.6.

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The same parts will get you more of a return (hp/tq) with the 5.4 instead of the 4.6.
+1. you gotta do some catch-up if you want a 4.6 to run with a 5.4, dump that same money into the 5.4 and youre approaching real big dog territory.
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+1. you gotta do some catch-up if you want a 4.6 to run with a 5.4, dump that same money into the 5.4 and youre approaching real big dog territory.
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5.4 vs 6.8 i'm not sure it's worth the swap
but 4.6 vs 5.4 it's really worth it

you don't have that much aftermarket parts for 6.8, add to this the extra weight and.. tight fitment

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Okay. So I now know that it would be better for me to upgrade the 5.4 but what parts would I need to do that? It is stock at the moment.

What parts would I need to upgrade the 4.6. It has a racing trans, 4.10 gears, cai, H-pipe (no cats) and flows. I also have a diablo predator for this.

I just want to see what would be cheaper. Not really concerned about the power gain compared to each.
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it's the same thing as a 4.6
except for the intake manifold and headers (FRPP shortys are working well)
you can get the adaptor plate, HPS (or HPI) intake (it's a PI intake but a little wider)
or get a 96-98 cabra intake and get it wider by about 1''

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I am confused about the headers. Long tubes will not fit on the 5.4, am I correct?
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Is there a performance difference between long tubes and short or just a preference?
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I am confused about the headers. Long tubes will not fit on the 5.4, am I correct?
They will physically fit on the 5.4 but they wont fit on the 5.4 AND fit in your engine bay correctly.

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Is there a performance difference between long tubes and short or just a preference?
I think LT's offer a little better Top end Power, but Shorties have a little better lower end.

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Okay. So I now know that it would be better for me to upgrade the 5.4 but what parts would I need to do that? It is stock at the moment. I just want to see what would be cheaper. Not really concerned about the power gain compared to each.

It all depends on what youre looking for man. What are your goals? 2V or 4V (of both) There isnt a straight blanket answer for this. Like we've said, a 5.4 is going to offer better gains, but if your "cheaper" comment...

The initial install will be cheaper/easier with a 4.6 2V since you've got a GT. Hell you could do a "performance upgrade" and go with an 04 engine or something.

A 5.4 will be sweet if you do it. 330 has done it.

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