4.6 Stroker Kit

tyler1987 · April 27th, 2010, 01:57 PM

Alright guys I am working on my 2nd build the dady build. I was looking for some kits and i notced a 5.0l kit for liek 1k so i was thinking seeing how i am going to the 5.0l can i just buy that and strok to that?

BAzombie · April 27th, 2010, 07:47 PM

I've checked out some stroker kits. I beleive any "5.0L" kit is a stroker. That's how your getting the extra ci's.

97S281 · April 27th, 2010, 07:54 PM

I'm not sure i understand what your getting. Are you asking if the stroker kit for the 4.6 mod motor will stroke you out to a 5.0? ( Yes, that's what it's for but you should spend the extra $700 and get a forged kit)

Or are you saying your getting a 5.0 and want to know if the stroker kit will replace the internals? ( NO)

tyler1987 · April 27th, 2010, 08:07 PM

I have found a fully forged 5.0l kit but it is for a 5.0l but if i strok the 4.6l the 5.0l kit should work right? Here is the link to the kit. Let me know what you all think.

5.0 302 SMALL BLOCK FORD STROKER 331 347 KIT NEW : eBay Motors (item 230357080927 end time May-09-10 16:20:40 PDT)

tfofkyle · April 27th, 2010, 08:14 PM

no, you are not going to be able to put a 331 or a 347 stroker kit in your 4.6. even if its stroked to a 5.0.

wannabeimportkiller · April 27th, 2010, 09:33 PM

rofl wow. Ok what you want is this here......
ModMax - 4.6 and 5.4 Modular Experts just bc you stroke your 4.6 to a 5.0 doesnt make it a "5.0" ford motor. They are 2 completely different types of motor. The true "5.0" or 302 is a pushrod motor where ours isnt. It has overhead cams and what not. So again if youre wanting to forge/forge your 4.6 you need what is in that link or something like it. Hope that helped

tfofkyle · April 27th, 2010, 09:47 PM

^ that modmax is some cheap stuff lol. at least direct him to mmr or something.

wannabeimportkiller · April 27th, 2010, 09:55 PM

I sowwy i was just using it as an example lol Summitracing.com sells eagles rotating assemblies (stroker kit)

tyler1987 · April 28th, 2010, 12:34 AM

So im not getting out of spending at least 2500 on a kit in other words. it's fine just trying to figure it all out.

wannabeimportkiller · April 28th, 2010, 11:54 AM

Summit has one for around 16-1800 just doesn't have a forged crank

tyler1987 · April 28th, 2010, 12:06 PM

If i don't go witha forgerd crank is it a bad idea?

zigbigadoru · April 28th, 2010, 01:26 PM

not really....how many times have you seen guys here or elsewhere snapping a crank or cracking it? not often

tyler1987 · April 28th, 2010, 02:10 PM

haha good point man lol

cruizer · April 28th, 2010, 03:16 PM

Do you think it would be cheaper to just go 5.4 since most have forged cranks and then buying forged rods and pistons then forging a 4.6?

tyler1987 · April 28th, 2010, 03:30 PM

Well my old block is a 5.4 but been reading that 5.4 and 4.6 use the same intrunels is this not true? Are is tehre a way to tell if they are difrent for sure?

cruizer · April 28th, 2010, 04:46 PM

Well the stroke in the 5.4 is much longer. Same bore though. So the connecting rods for the 5.4 need to be much longer than the connecting rods of the 4.6 and same with the stroke length of the crank. The pistons between the 4.6 and 5.4 are the same though

zigbigadoru · April 28th, 2010, 05:10 PM

5.4 is usually a good idea because more displacement=goooooood. anyway the rods and pistons are the same crappy powdered stuff ford used in the mustang so theyre garbage but from my knowledge the cranks are VERY stout and i have been told that they can withstand like 700hp or some crazy number like that.

97S281 · April 28th, 2010, 07:14 PM

Naw man, just build your 4.6. You can get a strroker kit on ebay for the 4.6 that will stroke it to a 5.0. Or you could keep your stock stroke and get a set of fully forged internals for around 1200 minus a crank. If your gonna forge the rest you should spend the extra money on the crank though. You can use any crank from a 4.6 cobra. They all have a forged kellog crank.

Why go through the trouble and expense of an entirely different engine when you can get all the power you want out of yours.

zigbigadoru · April 28th, 2010, 08:56 PM

i wouldnt suggest stroking the 4.6 at all....in fact if youre going to stroke it then you SHOULD go with a 5.4 because by stroking the 4.6 you take away the advantage the 4.6 has over the 5.4. the equilibrium of the stroke vs. the bore, by stroking the 4.6 to a 5.0 you in essence are taking away its ability to rev higher and whatnot which is the advantage the 4.6 has over the 5.4. 5.4>5.0 because more displacement=goooooood like i said before.

either stick with 4.6 or go 5.4. there shouldnt really be a middle ground there

cmher18 · April 28th, 2010, 09:45 PM

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April 27th, 2010, 01:57 PM	#1
tyler1987 Regular 1998 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Shawnee OK Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 reviews	4.6 Stroker Kit Alright guys I am working on my 2nd build the dady build. I was looking for some kits and i notced a 5.0l kit for liek 1k so i was thinking seeing how i am going to the 5.0l can i just buy that and strok to that? __________________ Then there was one.

April 27th, 2010, 07:47 PM	#2
BAzombie Regular 1996 GT Convertible 13.88@100.71 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Queensbury, NY Posts: 377 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've checked out some stroker kits. I beleive any "5.0L" kit is a stroker. That's how your getting the extra ci's. __________________ Mods: Katzkin Leather, MMR stage II heads w/PI cams, PI intake, Accufab 75mm TB & Plenum, CAI, Ram HDX clutch, Pacesetter LT's & X pipe, Pypes hi-flo cats, Flowmaster cat back,3.73 gears, Sct SF3 tuner, Mamba M2's

April 27th, 2010, 07:54 PM	#3
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	I'm not sure i understand what your getting. Are you asking if the stroker kit for the 4.6 mod motor will stroke you out to a 5.0? ( Yes, that's what it's for but you should spend the extra $700 and get a forged kit) Or are you saying your getting a 5.0 and want to know if the stroker kit will replace the internals? ( NO) __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

April 27th, 2010, 08:07 PM	#4
tyler1987 Regular 1998 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Shawnee OK Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have found a fully forged 5.0l kit but it is for a 5.0l but if i strok the 4.6l the 5.0l kit should work right? Here is the link to the kit. Let me know what you all think. 5.0 302 SMALL BLOCK FORD STROKER 331 347 KIT NEW : eBay Motors (item 230357080927 end time May-09-10 16:20:40 PDT) __________________ Then there was one.

April 27th, 2010, 08:14 PM	#5
tfofkyle Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,682 iTrader: 0 reviews	no, you are not going to be able to put a 331 or a 347 stroker kit in your 4.6. even if its stroked to a 5.0. __________________

April 27th, 2010, 09:33 PM	#6
wannabeimportkiller Hardcore Enthusiast 2012 Race Red GT/CS Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Belmont, NC Posts: 2,101 iTrader: 0 reviews	rofl wow. Ok what you want is this here...... ModMax - 4.6 and 5.4 Modular Experts just bc you stroke your 4.6 to a 5.0 doesnt make it a "5.0" ford motor. They are 2 completely different types of motor. The true "5.0" or 302 is a pushrod motor where ours isnt. It has overhead cams and what not. So again if youre wanting to forge/forge your 4.6 you need what is in that link or something like it. Hope that helped __________________ 2012 Race Red GT/CS 98 GT-Gone NCMM ORIGINAL

April 27th, 2010, 09:47 PM	#7
tfofkyle Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,682 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ that modmax is some cheap stuff lol. at least direct him to mmr or something. __________________

April 27th, 2010, 09:55 PM	#8
wannabeimportkiller Hardcore Enthusiast 2012 Race Red GT/CS Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Belmont, NC Posts: 2,101 iTrader: 0 reviews	I sowwy i was just using it as an example lol Summitracing.com sells eagles rotating assemblies (stroker kit) __________________ 2012 Race Red GT/CS 98 GT-Gone NCMM ORIGINAL

April 28th, 2010, 12:34 AM	#9
tyler1987 Regular 1998 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Shawnee OK Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 reviews	So im not getting out of spending at least 2500 on a kit in other words. it's fine just trying to figure it all out. __________________ Then there was one.

April 28th, 2010, 11:54 AM	#10
wannabeimportkiller Hardcore Enthusiast 2012 Race Red GT/CS Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Belmont, NC Posts: 2,101 iTrader: 0 reviews	Summit has one for around 16-1800 just doesn't have a forged crank __________________ 2012 Race Red GT/CS 98 GT-Gone NCMM ORIGINAL

April 28th, 2010, 12:06 PM	#11
tyler1987 Regular 1998 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Shawnee OK Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 reviews	If i don't go witha forgerd crank is it a bad idea? __________________ Then there was one.

April 28th, 2010, 02:10 PM	#13
tyler1987 Regular 1998 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Shawnee OK Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 reviews	haha good point man lol __________________ Then there was one.

April 28th, 2010, 03:16 PM	#14
cruizer Regular 1998 Mustang GT 13.046@107.49 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lapeer and Detroit, Michigan Posts: 443 iTrader: 0 reviews	Do you think it would be cheaper to just go 5.4 since most have forged cranks and then buying forged rods and pistons then forging a 4.6? __________________ 98 Mustang GT 13.795 @ 98.87 N/A Main mods: PI Swap, 3.73 gears, E85 My Mark VIII and T56 swap

April 28th, 2010, 03:30 PM	#15
tyler1987 Regular 1998 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Shawnee OK Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well my old block is a 5.4 but been reading that 5.4 and 4.6 use the same intrunels is this not true? Are is tehre a way to tell if they are difrent for sure? __________________ Then there was one.

April 28th, 2010, 04:46 PM	#16
cruizer Regular 1998 Mustang GT 13.046@107.49 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lapeer and Detroit, Michigan Posts: 443 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well the stroke in the 5.4 is much longer. Same bore though. So the connecting rods for the 5.4 need to be much longer than the connecting rods of the 4.6 and same with the stroke length of the crank. The pistons between the 4.6 and 5.4 are the same though __________________ 98 Mustang GT 13.795 @ 98.87 N/A Main mods: PI Swap, 3.73 gears, E85 My Mark VIII and T56 swap

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April 28th, 2010, 07:14 PM	#18
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	Naw man, just build your 4.6. You can get a strroker kit on ebay for the 4.6 that will stroke it to a 5.0. Or you could keep your stock stroke and get a set of fully forged internals for around 1200 minus a crank. If your gonna forge the rest you should spend the extra money on the crank though. You can use any crank from a 4.6 cobra. They all have a forged kellog crank. Why go through the trouble and expense of an entirely different engine when you can get all the power you want out of yours. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

April 28th, 2010, 09:45 PM	#20
cmher18 Newbie 1997 MUSTANG GT 11.20@125 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: STL Posts: 5 iTrader: 0 reviews	Im a Dealer for MMR If you need help with anything let me know i can try to help you save money. Im Leary with the above co...

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