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Old April 14th, 2006, 10:00 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by Casper98GT
The Writeup is right here ? I dont get it. lol.


The track ? It sucked. Best i could manage was a 14.23@99.97mph. It was again a friends Turbo LS1 Firehawk. And his time was 11.2@127. I wasnt sure how the track was going to be and considering im still on street tires i have to be careful at the line. But the track was actually pretty sticky. So i should have launched higher than normal. But i didnt like a jackass. BUT... there was a spill and it took forever. Then they stop racing to clean and i had enough so i left.

I'll do better next time. My best trap last year was a 99 mph. This time around i was nailing 99 everytime out. Just 14.4, 14.5, 14.3.... O well. There is always next time. I beat a Golf with 24psi. lol. He wasnt happy that i only have 210 RWHP.
I'm hittin the track next weekend for sure. I'll let you guys know how I do, I'll be running DR's & 4:10's this time too so I'll definatly be low 14's and possably a 13 if I'm lucky.
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Old April 14th, 2006, 10:55 AM   #22
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If you dont do a 13's i'll stop being youre friend!! haha, j/k. Im really confident you will see 13's. Im 14.0@99 without DR's. YOu have more mods than me, so you cant lose!!!!

Casper


ps. Good luck!

I have vid getting up loaded soon..... i want vid of you as well.
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Not really wise to put a PI intake on NON-PI heads. There is a reason they make things they way they do. Do it right the first time with the correct items or you'll possibly have problems later on. I doubt others want to take a chance of that "possible" coolant leak since the gaskets don't match up right. That's the whole point in updating it correctly to avoid the dreaded crack and coolant leak. Anywho, good luck with that and I hope it works. I just don't think a write up on something that shouldn't be done that way is proper.
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Old August 28th, 2006, 08:33 PM   #24
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Good you have youre opinion. but i have good luck with it, as do 100,000 other people. Im not sure whats the problem. Yeah, if the silicone lets go you can ruin youre motor and or over heat. I didnt say.... Everyone please do this mod because you will gain 50 hp and nothing bad will ever happen to youre motor.... No. I told people what could possibly happen. And if they choose to do it over spending endless money on a pi swap then thats great. I chose to do it. I chose to put pi cams in my non pi heads. Its my choice. Its a write up because i did it at home and ..... well everyone thought it was a good idea. Sorry... except you. So go on and tell people its a bad idea. Im all for it, its youre opinion and i like people who voice their opinions. The gaskets dont line up very minimally. You could actually weld a bead to youre head and them grind it down to make them line up perfectly.

There is a reason they make things they way they do
You can also use spacers to make them line up exactly.... youre still using nonpi heads with a pi intake.

I could type all night long. But im not going to. thanks for the warning though.
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Wasn't trying to bash you dude. It's just not my way of doing things. sorry if you took offense to it. BUT, you will NOT gain 50HP with that. That's like every advertiser out there saying you'll gain 10-15 hp with a K & N filter (which I love K&N)or you'll get 20 with a xpipe but you don't get that kind of gain. I've done the dyno testing before. Anywho, no need to get in a big this is right that is right. We all have different knowledge and experiences. Se we go by that.
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hahaha, nope. Didnt take offense to anything bro. I was just saying it good you have opinions. I like that. everyone should beable to without other people spazzing out. I just took this way out insted of doing everything. Im a tech, so i like to do new stuff and such. Just thought it was a great idea to let it out and others did too. Many have had very good luck and love their new intake. But yes... safty wise. Do the entire swap... better yet a pi motor. Best bet.

The 50hp thing.... i was saying i didnt say that. haha. Maybe you read it fast.

Either way.. thanks for the reply. :wink
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I didnt say.... Everyone please do this mod because you will gain 50 hp and nothing bad will ever happen to youre motor


You put those damn .... in there so I dropped the first 3 words and read it wrong, lol. Damn I need to get back to the chapter I'm SUPPOSED to be reading for school. I'm taking a couple online classes for a local college. It's nice but then it's to easy to jump into something else. Damn mustangs, lol.
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I do the same thing sometimes. Like my brain doesnt register and it just goes straight for the kill. hahaha
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Sorry to bring up an older thread, but just for the sake of knowing the facts:
00supercharged: 50HP gains might not be true, but it's been dyno proven (i've seen the results first hand) that PI cams and PI intake on NPI heads can yeild up to 35-40 RWHP. 40 is high, but with a tune, you'll see it. The PI heads can add another 10 RWHP or so, but that's mostly due to compression changes which some may find a downside.

Casper, thanks for the write up! I'm a 1st timer here (obviously) and I was brought here by a PI cam/intake swap how-to link from another forum.
 
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Originally Posted by Wes8398
00supercharged: 50HP gains might not be true, but it's been dyno proven (i've seen the results first hand) that PI cams and PI intake on NPI heads can yeild up to 35-40 RWHP. 40 is high, but with a tune, you'll see it. The PI heads can add another 10 RWHP or so, but that's mostly due to compression changes which some may find a downside.
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Great write up and pictures. I am trying to do this mod. I have had the intake back on once and had leaks at the passenger's side front and driver's side back. I used permatex gray gasket sealer and conditioner. Maybe I used too much or not enough. Also it is very difficult to get the intake into the top of the engine with the ERG tube still installed. Did you remove the tube first? I was not able to set the intake on the heads without moving the gasket.
 
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Wes, which forums ?

Paul, i removed the egr. And i use a toyota oil RTV, i use it for everythng. Works great.
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Thank you for the reply.
So you left the tube attached to the exhaust system, and removed the egr valve from the top? I tried to get to the tube on the exhaust from under the car and could not get a wrench in there. Is there a trick to getting the intake under the tube? I am going to get the Toyota RTV. I looked for it on the internet to see exactly what you were talking about. Any more info on the sealant would be appreciated. Looks like there are several different types.
The permatex I used never set up. It was still wet and wiped right off. It had been bolted together several days.
 
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I removed it from the sensor, i think its like 1 1/16 size wrench. Then i just bungy'd it and pulled if out of the way. Its a PITA to remove the entire pipe. So thats how i made room, because youre right i didnt like the kinda room i had with it on there either. I think the actuall name of it is TOYOTA FIPG. Its a oil/coolant resistant kinda RTV. You can get some at a local toyota dealership. But i warn you its expensive. But it works the first time and for a long time. But as far as setting time...how long did you wait? I did this at about 10 in the morning and finished at 11:30ish, then let it sit overnight and fired it up the next morning and topped off fluids and watched for leaks. Then i beat the crap out of it on the highway, then ran it at the strip the next day.
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I got my engine back together last night and am letting it sit this time before starting up and checking for leaks. I have one question. My pcv valve has 2 nipples. One goes to the upper intake. I can't find a hose to plug on the top nipple. Any help on this would be appreciated.
Mine is a 97 GT. I have looked at as many picture as I could find on the net and it seems most pcv valves have only one outlet.
 
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Im gonna guess aftermarket pcv valve, just find something to plug it up with.
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Ok i have a few questions. Im doing a whole pi swap this weekend. And first of all where are all the places i will need to put the RTV sealent? And also is there anyway around tapping the intake manifold for the second temp sensor? ANd im pretty sure my kit came with everything i need except for the pi heater return tube. its the parkway performance pi swap kit. It says it comes with it but mine didnt come with that or the alternator braket bolts for some reason.
 
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heres the link to the kit i got

heater return tube
 
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ok so it wont let me link it
 
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i know alot of the 98's dont need the hose, but i am sure youre 96 does. I had to modify my buddys 96 to make the PI heater hose work.

And this is just for the PI intake on NPI heads. Youre doing the entire kit so alot of this doesnt apply to you.

But you can put youre other temp sensor in youre block drain on the dirvers side of the block, you just need to lengten youre wires.

Or you can drill.
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