NPI to PI Intake Swap...

k2boarder3187 · March 28th, 2007, 11:53 PM

so casper how much of a hp increase do u think u gained?

MustangMatt96GT · March 28th, 2007, 11:58 PM

All casper did in that how to was the intake, so maybe 20 horsepower. But if you buy the whole set up that is on ebay then you can gain up to 55 horsepower.

Casper98GT · March 29th, 2007, 08:45 AM

yeah all that was is the intake, but i never got it dyno'd after. This weekend or next im putting in my PI cams. So im making the write up soon. Then im gettng it dyno'd after. With small amount of bolt ons i was at 226/291. Now i have PI cams, pI intake, plenum and tb and JLT CAI. So it will be a bit higher.

jaamfoster · March 29th, 2007, 08:57 AM

Casper are you going to post the step by step process with pictures on the cam swap.Would be great,I would attempt the cam swap on mine with something to go by.

jaamfoster · March 29th, 2007, 08:59 AM

Well as I read again I see you said you will post a write up,stupid me.

Casper98GT · March 29th, 2007, 11:03 AM

yeah its ok. sometimes i dont read the post all the way either.

but yes i will have step by step and pictures. Because i know doing something without any help sucks, you should see me try to do simple html on the computer. I look like a retard. So yeah it will be up soon. I cant wait either

I have a very good trick to doing stage 1 cams, and it involves special tools. But you can buy it. So just wait for the How-to and you'll be all set.

jaamfoster · March 29th, 2007, 12:14 PM

Great,I get nervous when messing with the timing and timing chains.

ujslost · March 29th, 2007, 08:35 PM

Damn! I cant wait for the write up, I get anxious just reading these threads man!

tlr96 · April 27th, 2007, 07:10 PM

looking forward to the cam sticky! somtime in the future im going to get my stock heads ported & polished with new cams and pi intake. the work you did for us will be extremely helpful. THANK YOU!!!

MustangMatt96GT · April 27th, 2007, 11:19 PM

I am getting my PI intake shipped out tommarow or Monday!! It came off of a 02 GT so it has the aluminum cross over!! 3 quick questions! Casper when I tap for the 2nd coolant temp sensor how do I keep the metal shavings from going into the coolant crossover? Also where is the 1st coolant temp sensor? Is it on the intake or more towards the radiator? And third What is the DPFE sensor? Thanks and if I have any more questions I will ask! I might even get a before and after dyno just to see what I gained!!

Casper98GT · April 28th, 2007, 10:19 AM

I am getting my PI intake shipped out tommarow or Monday!! It came off of a 02 GT so it has the aluminum cross over!! 3 quick questions! Casper when I tap for the 2nd coolant temp sensor how do I keep the metal shavings from going into the coolant crossover? Also where is the 1st coolant temp sensor? Is it on the intake or more towards the radiator? And third What is the DPFE sensor? Thanks and if I have any more questions I will ask! I might even get a before and after dyno just to see what I gained!!

The crossover is bolted to the intake, just take it off.

They are both on the crossover

DPFE sensor is a box, usually grey and has 2 metal pipes commg off from it and the rubber hoses go to the EGR pipe.

ujslost · April 28th, 2007, 11:52 AM

after you tap the cross over, just spray it out with some water really good man.

Casper98GT · April 28th, 2007, 12:11 PM

I have tapped oil pans, heads, rear ends...pretty much everything

If you wanna be real careful, take youre Tap and get some wheel bearing grease and put it in the area of the tap of the empty space. Fill that thing full of grease. Then when you tap the grease will push up and it wont fall in.

And thats Mr.Caspers Tip of the day

MustangMatt96GT · April 28th, 2007, 04:21 PM

Okay sounds good! Just to get this straight there is already on temp sensor on the PI intake in the same place as the NPI and then I will just tap for the other? Thanks and will my computer have to learn the new intake and make it run differently for a few minutes?

ujslost · April 28th, 2007, 05:24 PM

yeah just tap on opposite side of the cross over for the other one. might have to lengthen wires. but casper might have another idea

MustangMatt96GT · April 28th, 2007, 06:00 PM

no I wont have to lenghtnent he wires! It will be in the same place!

MustangMatt96GT · April 28th, 2007, 08:02 PM

Ohh and what type of silicon should I use? I have some from my shifter install but I doubt that is the same stuff I should use thanks so much!

ujslost · April 28th, 2007, 09:06 PM

let me know your honest opinon on how the power differance is matt when you get done. Im changing jobs next week and my old job owes me a vacation check and a 3 day check they held back when I hired in plus my normal payrol check so Im gonna buy something. Made a deal with the wife, i get hotrod toys and she gets some tanning bed minutes!

MustangMatt96GT · April 28th, 2007, 09:09 PM

I definatly will! I am looking forward to getting it on! I dont know but I might not get it on until after schools out the 17th of may! I also am thinking that I will get some before and after 1/4 mile times! But then again the times without the PI intake will be my first time at the track actually racing so the times will probably be flawed! Hell who knows I might find the urge to get a before and after dyno!

MustangMatt96GT · April 29th, 2007, 11:41 AM

is this the DPFE sensor?

March 28th, 2007, 11:53 PM	#61
k2boarder3187 Regular EVO 8 @ 29psi Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: CT Posts: 466	so casper how much of a hp increase do u think u gained? __________________ 96 Black GT Vortech 331hp sold http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...der3187/35.jpg 2003 EVO 8 440awhp/440awtq @ 29psi w/ METH TheShopCt.com

March 28th, 2007, 11:58 PM	#62
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,147	All casper did in that how to was the intake, so maybe 20 horsepower. But if you buy the whole set up that is on ebay then you can gain up to 55 horsepower. __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

March 29th, 2007, 08:35 PM	#68
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,847	Damn! I cant wait for the write up, I get anxious just reading these threads man! __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/vehicle-classifieds/86839-wtt-90-lx-hatch-red-black-north-alabama.html#post1394801

April 27th, 2007, 07:10 PM	#69
tlr96 Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 1,793	looking forward to the cam sticky! somtime in the future im going to get my stock heads ported & polished with new cams and pi intake. the work you did for us will be extremely helpful. THANK YOU!!! __________________ view my garage for pics and modifications listen to my exhaust video 1 video 2 video 3

April 27th, 2007, 11:19 PM	#70
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,147	I am getting my PI intake shipped out tommarow or Monday!! It came off of a 02 GT so it has the aluminum cross over!! 3 quick questions! Casper when I tap for the 2nd coolant temp sensor how do I keep the metal shavings from going into the coolant crossover? Also where is the 1st coolant temp sensor? Is it on the intake or more towards the radiator? And third What is the DPFE sensor? Thanks and if I have any more questions I will ask! I might even get a before and after dyno just to see what I gained!! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

March 29th, 2007, 08:57 AM	#64
jaamfoster Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 31	Casper are you going to post the step by step process with pictures on the cam swap.Would be great,I would attempt the cam swap on mine with something to go by.

March 29th, 2007, 08:59 AM	#65
jaamfoster Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 31	Well as I read again I see you said you will post a write up,stupid me.

March 29th, 2007, 12:14 PM	#67
jaamfoster Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 31	Great,I get nervous when messing with the timing and timing chains.

April 28th, 2007, 11:52 AM	#72
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,847	after you tap the cross over, just spray it out with some water really good man. __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/vehicle-classifieds/86839-wtt-90-lx-hatch-red-black-north-alabama.html#post1394801

April 28th, 2007, 04:21 PM	#74
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,147	Okay sounds good! Just to get this straight there is already on temp sensor on the PI intake in the same place as the NPI and then I will just tap for the other? Thanks and will my computer have to learn the new intake and make it run differently for a few minutes? __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

April 28th, 2007, 05:24 PM	#75
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,847	yeah just tap on opposite side of the cross over for the other one. might have to lengthen wires. but casper might have another idea __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/vehicle-classifieds/86839-wtt-90-lx-hatch-red-black-north-alabama.html#post1394801

April 28th, 2007, 06:00 PM	#76
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,147	no I wont have to lenghtnent he wires! It will be in the same place! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

April 28th, 2007, 08:02 PM	#77
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,147	Ohh and what type of silicon should I use? I have some from my shifter install but I doubt that is the same stuff I should use thanks so much! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

April 28th, 2007, 09:06 PM	#78
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,847	let me know your honest opinon on how the power differance is matt when you get done. Im changing jobs next week and my old job owes me a vacation check and a 3 day check they held back when I hired in plus my normal payrol check so Im gonna buy something. Made a deal with the wife, i get hotrod toys and she gets some tanning bed minutes! __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/vehicle-classifieds/86839-wtt-90-lx-hatch-red-black-north-alabama.html#post1394801

April 28th, 2007, 09:09 PM	#79
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,147	I definatly will! I am looking forward to getting it on! I dont know but I might not get it on until after schools out the 17th of may! I also am thinking that I will get some before and after 1/4 mile times! But then again the times without the PI intake will be my first time at the track actually racing so the times will probably be flawed! Hell who knows I might find the urge to get a before and after dyno! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

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