NPI to PI Intake Swap...

May 20th, 2007, 12:31 AM

#141

Casper98GT

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http://www.mcmaster.com/ctlg/DisplCt...MMainWidth=812

thats the link. Its part number 2525a215.

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May 20th, 2007, 12:37 AM	#142
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,482	Thanks! what is the difference between the NPTF and the NPT anyways? And I just want to make sure I am reading the chart correctly. I will need to use a 9/16 drill bit for this. Thanks man! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

May 20th, 2007, 10:53 AM	#143
DragonFreak Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 419	wow i could have used that a few days ago....i had to search and find a 37/64 drill bit for the tap i got

May 20th, 2007, 11:51 AM	#144
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,482	Yeah I cant find a 37/64 tap anywhere! ACE had the tap in the back but not the bit so they werent able to do it for me! And then they dont sell ethier! I guess I am going to make a trip to tool king today if they are open! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

May 21st, 2007, 08:42 AM

#145

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The difference is NPTF has tighter tollerences and it allows better seal without using thread sealer.

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May 21st, 2007, 12:56 PM	#146
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,482	Ohh okay! Well If I cant get a NPTF tap I will just get a NPT tap and use some thread sealer! Thanks so much man! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

May 25th, 2007, 01:14 PM	#147
96GTRagTop Master of the Force Millenium Falcon "Just Living the Dream" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zip's Bubble Posts: 7,598	My cars pretty much off the road for the next couple of months. It's registered and all but I'm technically not allowed to operate a motor vehicle for some really stupid reasons. Since I'll be saving all that gas money and my car does need minor work I figured I'm gonna jump on the oppertunity. My intake manifold is cracked in the back so thats gotta go, and i wanna put a new set of cams in. I'm gonna go with the PI intake but does anyone have any recomendations for the cams. Should I go with the PI or upgrade to something else. Also, for the intake swap are there any kits that i can use that would have everything i need? __________________ MSO smokes pole

May 25th, 2007, 05:32 PM

#148

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Simple answer is money.

If you want spend 500 for some stage 1 npi cams, or go with pi for cheap.

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May 25th, 2007, 06:44 PM	#149
96GTRagTop Master of the Force Millenium Falcon "Just Living the Dream" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zip's Bubble Posts: 7,598	whats the difference in power gain? __________________ MSO smokes pole

June 6th, 2007, 11:13 AM	#150
96GTRagTop Master of the Force Millenium Falcon "Just Living the Dream" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zip's Bubble Posts: 7,598	Hey, i clicked onto another mustang forum for sn-95's today. They also have a pi swap post for everyone there, but instead using pi gaskets they use npi gaskets and do the rtv sealent on the intake, not the heads. Has anyone done so using there method? "make sure you purchase nPI gaskets since these gaskets seal the water ports. Failure to seal the water ports can result in coolant leaking into the combustion chamber and subsequent engine failure, so be sure to use nPI gaskets. Although these gaskets effectively seal the water ports (a must), they do not completely seal the intake ports. You must use high temp silicone sealant (permatex) to seal these ports. AGAIN… only apply the permatex to the intake" This is an excert from there artical. Which way makes more sense to you guys, cause it does bring up a valid point. Edit...I went back to the site and started reading more in depth and found out the guy who did the write up based it off of this write up allready, just changed it up a little bit. Still, Wondering what some of ur opinions are about the gasket thing.

June 6th, 2007, 11:47 AM

#151

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All i can say is to everyone who wants to try it....go ahead.

Every single site about Sn-95 Mustangs and PI swaps you will find this way.

I wanted to use PI gaskets because they SEAL the INTAKE ports....yup you have 8 port you need to seal if you use the other npi gaskets. Shit goes everywhere...and im all set with using SILICONE on my intake ports.

I made this other way and other people have used it and came out on top.

To each their own.

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June 6th, 2007, 12:18 PM	#152
96GTRagTop Master of the Force Millenium Falcon "Just Living the Dream" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zip's Bubble Posts: 7,598	Ya see, i was unaware of the 8 port thing until now. I'm so glad that I did to before i bought the gaskets too. __________________ MSO smokes pole

June 13th, 2007, 01:25 AM	#153
sorrowfulkiller Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 188	Woot! I just found out that I positively have the pi intake ^_^

June 21st, 2007, 10:49 PM	#154
96GTRagTop Master of the Force Millenium Falcon "Just Living the Dream" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zip's Bubble Posts: 7,598	i've been doing a lot of research into the pi intake swap because i'm about to undertake it, and have noticed something i thought i'd bring up. I noticed on another forum that a lot of people preferred to use the livernous kit instead of the actual sealant mod. I noticed a few of them who used the kit said they only gained 8-12 hp. One person said he did cams and intake an only gained 20 with a tune. Does the kit give less horsepoer then a regular intake? I haven't seen anyone mention anything like this and thought i'd bring it up. I'm gonna keep looking into it and see if i can find more information and results from other sn95ers __________________ MSO smokes pole

June 22nd, 2007, 12:23 AM	#155
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,482	I read somewhere that that was true, but IDK! I had no problem with the silicon way and if you need pictures I will send them too you! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

June 22nd, 2007, 11:30 AM	#156
96GTRagTop Master of the Force Millenium Falcon "Just Living the Dream" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zip's Bubble Posts: 7,598	i don't think i'm gonna have problems with the silicone, and believe it or not i planned on using the pictures u already uploaded when u did urs. I __________________ MSO smokes pole

June 22nd, 2007, 01:58 PM

#157

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Of course the kit will yield less hp. Youre using a spacer on the intake. Youre rasiing everything and ruining youre air comming through youre intake. But its a SURE fit.

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June 26th, 2007, 03:33 PM	#158
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,482	Yeah I agree with Casper on this one! The silicon has had no problems yet and I take my car to 5500 everytime I drive her! The plates are a waste of money IMO and I will post those pictures soon! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

July 11th, 2007, 11:45 PM	#159
crash8212 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4	I bought a set of plates from Hiperformance solutions (spelling?) to do my swap. I did it the first time without the plates and must've slid the gasket when putting the intake on and ruined the mating RTV. It blew coolant out faster than I could put it in. Well, I screwed around with it enough and decided I'd rather have it dependable for a long time than worry about a leak in the future. The plates from HPS were $85 and you use the PI gaskets with them. I coated the entire mating area of the plates to the head with a thin film of RTV then bolted them down and let it sit for 24 hours just for added measure. When I went to install the intake, they were stuck GOOD! They are only 3/8-1/2 thick. Not the greatest craftsmanship but they work. Also, a side note. Anyone attempting this...GET THE PI COOLANT TUBE! I read a couple places that people got away without using them and/or spent $90 on one. Also, 98 guys, check your PI nipple. Many of you won't have to change it as we all know, 98 is the 'mutt' of Mustangs. Here is the part # for the nipple and the PI coolant tube FOR $30! I almost spent $90+ like everyone else until I gave the guy a specific part number at the stealership..."oh...here it is....$32" F752-8555-AA = number for PI nipple ($6-10) XR32-18b402-AA = number for PI coolant tube ($30-35)

September 5th, 2007, 10:03 PM	#160
10ktgold Look Ma! My First Post! Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1	ok ive read everywhere and i still have no clue , what the hell is pi all i can see is its 99+ ford? and soemthign about intakes and heads or something.

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