[Camodaman 97 gt]

Ok i have a 97 gt with new heads, throttle body, intake, headers, xpiped, 373 gears, stage 2 clutch, short throw shifter, n some more and i am wanting to know if any one has some personal exp. with putting a turbo or turbos or a supercharger on a similar year stang and if you do what did i cost and what should i be looking forward to spending i was leaning toward a turbo and maybe spray it but im not sure and if you have any links or brand kits i need or anything of the sort lemme know

already have taken tons of ricers like srt4s accords si civics and have taken a ls1 camaro and the new camaros and challenger n chargers a srt8 jeep and g35s lol tons more just wanna beat my old ass dad with his 490 chevy lol

[phoenix99]

if you have a stock bottom end, all of them can give you 100-125 more hp...
it's all depend on your goal and utilisation. If you plan to race your car everyday... forget nitrous it will cost you an arm and a leg for the refill.
but if you plan to race only a few times per year, nitrous is cheaper and don't affect daily driving.


I guess you have done the PI swap already ? if not, that should be done to get most of every other mods.


i've a 98gt with a 5.4 32v with a 125hp wet kit with a NANO and it's kick ass. the only "down side" is the refill but with the nano you can use the complete bottle at full PSI everytime.

[ReverendDexter]

There's a LOT of turbo vs supercharger threads on this site, and people with experience with both.

Long story short, you'll never get a straight answer as to which is better, as both are depending on the situation, your goals, and your resources.

[sharkbait]

Yea iv got a 5.4 and im gonna go supercharger....

You just need to know what you want. Each has there ups and downs.

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by Camodaman 97 gt already have taken tons of ricers like srt4s accords si civics and have taken a ls1 camaro and the new camaros and challenger n chargers a srt8 jeep and g35s lol tons more just wanna beat my old ass dad with his 490 chevy lol

What mods are you running now? Those are some impressive kills for an NPI GT, provided you're not just blowing smoke up our asses.

[Scott2001GT]

Like stated...there are your pros/cons. But for efficiency, you cant beat a turbo..hands down.

I can set you up with a Precision turbo and TurboSmart products

[97S281]

What kind of heads, intake and tb are you running? You stated they were new, I'm just curious as to what you put in there.

[MustGT98allday]

seriously...impressive kills for those mods...go turrbooooooo

[RDY4WAR]

I'm partial to turbos.

1) It's easier to control the boost pressure. If you're ready to run more boost, just simply adjust the boost controller or wastegate. With a supercharger, you have to buy a new pulley and possibly a new belt.

2) Turbos are non-parasitic. They spool off the exhaust gases so they don't take away any of the engine's power to make power.

3) Turbos are easier on the engine. Turbos generally don't create as much heat as superchargers. Superchargers are like big heat guns. They call them "Heaton" for a reason.

The disadvantage to turbos is the lag. Depending on the size, whether it's journal or ball bearing, and the location of the turbo along the exhaust, they can take a little bit to spool up. Superchargers are instant boost as soon as you tap the gas.

These are just my thoughts on it. There's different strokes for different folks.

YouTube - Forced Induction - Supercharger vs. Turbo Charger

YouTube - Forced Induction - Supercharger vs. Turbo Charger

EDIT: The image you see before you click play just so happens to be a Twin Turbo'd 2.0L Duratec Focus from SEMA 2006.

[Scott2001GT]

Originally Posted by smithboy76908 I'm partial to turbos. 1) It's easier to control the boost pressure. If you're ready to run more boost, just simply adjust the boost controller or wastegate. With a supercharger, you have to buy a new pulley and possibly a new belt. 2) Turbos are non-parasitic. They spool off the exhaust gases so they don't take away any of the engine's power to make power. 3) Turbos are easier on the engine. Turbos generally don't create as much heat as superchargers. Superchargers are like big heat guns. They call them "Heaton" for a reason. The disadvantage to turbos is the lag. Depending on the size, whether it's journal or ball bearing, and the location of the turbo along the exhaust, they can take a little bit to spool up. Superchargers are instant boost as soon as you tap the gas.

1) Very True!

2)Yes but there is one exection to this rule. Backpressure is the only thing turbos have going against them.

3) PD blowers run hot...Centris are not as bad.

Lag with the correct size turbo is pretty much not there. Lag by definition is from once you hit the gas to you first see boost.

boost threshold is from once you see 1 psi to full boost. Thats what you want to come quickly.

[RDY4WAR]

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT 1) Very True! 2)Yes but there is one exection to this rule. Backpressure is the only thing turbos have going against them. 3) PD blowers run hot...Centris are not as bad. Lag with the correct size turbo is pretty much not there. Lag by definition is from once you hit the gas to you first see boost. boost threshold is from once you see 1 psi to full boost. Thats what you want to come quickly.

Thank you for the correction. Boost threshold is more of what I was talking about. Easy way to get rid of backpressure for a turbo... open downpipe. I have a Garrett GT28RS ball bearing .64a/r turbo on the Focus with 2.5" stainless catless turbo-back. A 3rd gear pull from 1500rpm, I see 1psi by 1800rpm and 11psi (full boost) by 2800rpm. In 95+* heat, I was seeing just 120* IATs peak with the FMIC, and it makes an ungodly amount of torque (for what it is).

[Scott2001GT]

Originally Posted by smithboy76908 Thank you for the correction. Boost threshold is more of what I was talking about. Easy way to get rid of backpressure for a turbo... open downpipe. I have a Garrett GT28RS ball bearing .64a/r turbo on the Focus with 2.5" stainless catless turbo-back. A 3rd gear pull from 1500rpm, I see 1psi by 1800rpm and 11psi (full boost) by 2800rpm. In 95+* heat, I was seeing just 120* IATs peak with the FMIC, and it makes an ungodly amount of torque (for what it is).

np bro!

The backpressure from the manifolds to the turbo can be reduced by a larger A/R...also helps with heat. Just takes a little longer to build that boost but will help up top. And YES a catless turbo system is the best way to go. The best turbo exhuast is no exhuast. An atmo. wastegate is a good idea too.

You have a very good spool time!

"Turbos make torque, torque makes fun" quote by Corky Bell

[RDY4WAR]

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT np bro! The backpressure from the manifolds to the turbo can be reduced by a larger A/R...also helps with heat. Just takes a little longer to build that boost but will help up top. And YES a catless turbo system is the best way to go. The best turbo exhuast is no exhuast. An atmo. wastegate is a good idea too. You have a very good spool time! "Turbos make torque, torque makes fun" quote by Corky Bell

The easy way to describe a turbocharger or supercharger... Air goes into the turbocharger or supercharger, witchcraft happens, and you go faster.

The Focus hits full boost by 2800rpm but doesn't reach max torque until 5400rpm and max hp at 7100rpm. lol At least that's based on other dynos with a similar setup. I'm yet to dyno mine. My tune's a bit more aggressive than the average so I'm not sure where I'd be.

[Scott2001GT]

you should have max torque before that.

[Scott2001GT]

maybe i am thinking v8 mustang and not your Focus motor

[RDY4WAR]

Most start to make torque about 4k and pull strong from about 4600-6200 and then plane out to redline about 7300. The stock cams are meant for economy so low-end torque is not it's fancy. I can feel it in mine. Snapping it to the floor from 5k in 3rd gear will slam you back in the seat.

A guy with the same setup I have made 232whp/219wtq on CA 91 octane and 11psi. He was running 10.8:1 AFR and 12* spark advance. I'm running on 93 octane at 11psi, 11.6:1 AFR and 16* spark advance. I got detonation at 18* around 6500rpm so I set the tune at 16* advanced for a little clearance. I'm guessing I'm around 245whp/235wtq I'd like to believe.

[Scott2001GT]

very nice man! I cant wait till mine is done!

[RDY4WAR]

Boost is addictive! Whether you go turbocharged or supercharged, boost is addictive!

[lichtyr]

turbo or supercharger it depends on what you intend to use it for Drag strip only supercharger all the way instant power positive boost look at what top fuel cars are running block raceing supercharger daily driver and a bit of hot rodding Turbo better mileage and great performance Booste is addictive I run A kenny bell Mamoth supercharger on my 08 gt 18psi boost but I am only in the boost once in awhile the rest of the time I never see boost except on race day then I want it right now we run 1/8 mile here not many can hang with this set up

[Scott2001GT]

turbos DO NOT give you better gas milage. Thats a myth.