Patriot performance stg II heads with cams

Monster stang 97 · April 23rd, 2007, 10:52 AM

I was wondering would this be a good head to put on. they also come with cams(stg II cams i do beleive) and I was also wondering if i got this heads would a p.i. intake or even the Typhon intake work with the heads? if so whats all needed cause i might buy this in a few weeks. heres the link to them if anyways wants to see....

lemme know what u guys think. thanx

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Patri...spagenameZWD1V

Monster stang 97 · April 23rd, 2007, 11:19 AM

also if i can get everything to work, how much power do u think i can make to the wheels with the stg II heads and cams, p.i. or typhon intake, full exhaust, cai, tb, udp's and 4.10's with a tune? roughly wise

Boomer · April 23rd, 2007, 11:20 AM

I have had a bad personal experience with patriot heads that costed me a large chunk of cash, their valve guide tolerances tend to be wishy washy.
Being that is a used set I would be cautious, I have heard of people using up to a quart of oil every 50-100 miles. I am not telling you not to get them just trying to warn you of their potential problem.
I would go with the P.I intake over the typhoon, they called it the typhoon for a reason, it blows. I have yet to see this intake put on a car alone and see positive gains, on a N/A engine I would not waste your time with any intake unless you have money to blow.

jaamfoster · April 23rd, 2007, 11:47 AM

My local shop wanted to put on Foxlake stage 2 heads,w/comp. cams,said I would have 275-300 rwhp,and wanted $5200 for the job I said keep it,too much.

Boomer · April 23rd, 2007, 12:00 PM

WOW, that is high $5200. The fox lake heads are far far better than Patriot, in this game (modular motors) you get what you pay for when it comes to quality.

Monster stang 97 · April 23rd, 2007, 12:26 PM

anyone else??? i also heard that they resolved there problems from quit a few peeps on this board. just seeing whats gonna be cheaper in the long run and net me more power....either the stg II heads and cams with bolts on or the allen supercharger at 8-9 psi(not both just either or) so what would u guys do if u were me???

DragonFreak · April 23rd, 2007, 02:08 PM

id do the super charger...then save the money up and get the motor redone with forged internals and get your heads p&p at that time

MustangMatt96GT · April 23rd, 2007, 04:46 PM

Yeah the blower will be cheaper and easier in the short run! And take a look at VT heads!

ujslost · April 23rd, 2007, 07:26 PM

I heard they got their shit together finally. But Im only 30 miles from their shop and meet a guy at the dragstrip one day and I was talking to him and mentioned patriot performance. The guy said he used to work there. So I asked about the valve guides, and if that problem was fixed because I heard it was. He told me that he doubted that it was fixed and that he wouldnt buy shit from patriot performance. He would have them do port work but nothing else. Take this as you please, Im just passing on information that I heard. It could just be bullshit from a disgruntled ex employee.

Monster stang 97 · April 23rd, 2007, 08:47 PM

hmmm i might just do the allen supercharger......anyone here have a shop but on diff heads and intake and how much did it rack ya? the same goes for s/c'ed peeps...how much did the shop charge for s/c install? lemme know guys

Monster stang 97 · April 24th, 2007, 01:32 AM

i ment to say anyone here have a speed shop put on there heads and intake?(or just a supercharger) and how much did u end up payin???

sonicblue · April 24th, 2007, 07:27 AM

supercharge it. it will get you more power than heads and cams. it shouldnt run you more than 300-500 to get it installed

Monster stang 97 · April 24th, 2007, 05:50 PM

ok sweet...i take it putting heads and cams and intake will prolly cost way more...i heard like a grand or 2.....depend where ya go. but also i want to get my supercharger installed and dyno tuned at the same place....with that being said anyplace in Ohio or around the Findlay/toledo area that can do both and is very good at tuning mustangs????? thanx so much for the info guys

Monster stang 97 · April 25th, 2007, 05:42 PM

someone please answer my last post!...please i really need to know a good place

Monster stang 97 · April 26th, 2007, 06:36 PM

anyone????? guess not...

Boomer · April 26th, 2007, 08:18 PM

Modular depot, I think they are closer to KY or even in the state now.

April 23rd, 2007, 10:52 AM	#1
Monster stang 97 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: findlay, Ohio Posts: 65	Patriot performance stg II heads with cams I was wondering would this be a good head to put on. they also come with cams(stg II cams i do beleive) and I was also wondering if i got this heads would a p.i. intake or even the Typhon intake work with the heads? if so whats all needed cause i might buy this in a few weeks. heres the link to them if anyways wants to see.... lemme know what u guys think. thanx http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Patri...spagenameZWD1V __________________ 97 black Mustang GT 5-speed(fully loaded) mods - MGW short throw, Steeda race pedels, K&N drop in, Flowmaster 40's coming soon - orh, JLT CAI, 4.10's, P.I. intake, P.I. cams, underdrives pullies, and other bolt-ons shooting for 240rwhp

April 23rd, 2007, 11:19 AM	#2
Monster stang 97 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: findlay, Ohio Posts: 65	also if i can get everything to work, how much power do u think i can make to the wheels with the stg II heads and cams, p.i. or typhon intake, full exhaust, cai, tb, udp's and 4.10's with a tune? roughly wise __________________ 97 black Mustang GT 5-speed(fully loaded) mods - MGW short throw, Steeda race pedels, K&N drop in, Flowmaster 40's coming soon - orh, JLT CAI, 4.10's, P.I. intake, P.I. cams, underdrives pullies, and other bolt-ons shooting for 240rwhp

April 23rd, 2007, 11:20 AM	#3
Boomer Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: warren, Mi Posts: 941	I have had a bad personal experience with patriot heads that costed me a large chunk of cash, their valve guide tolerances tend to be wishy washy. Being that is a used set I would be cautious, I have heard of people using up to a quart of oil every 50-100 miles. I am not telling you not to get them just trying to warn you of their potential problem. I would go with the P.I intake over the typhoon, they called it the typhoon for a reason, it blows. I have yet to see this intake put on a car alone and see positive gains, on a N/A engine I would not waste your time with any intake unless you have money to blow. __________________ Just another 10 second Mustang, what did you expect ? http://youtube.com/watch?v=BgykaUrmfvM

April 23rd, 2007, 12:00 PM	#5
Boomer Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: warren, Mi Posts: 941	WOW, that is high $5200. The fox lake heads are far far better than Patriot, in this game (modular motors) you get what you pay for when it comes to quality. __________________ Just another 10 second Mustang, what did you expect ? http://youtube.com/watch?v=BgykaUrmfvM

April 23rd, 2007, 12:26 PM	#6
Monster stang 97 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: findlay, Ohio Posts: 65	anyone else??? i also heard that they resolved there problems from quit a few peeps on this board. just seeing whats gonna be cheaper in the long run and net me more power....either the stg II heads and cams with bolts on or the allen supercharger at 8-9 psi(not both just either or) so what would u guys do if u were me??? __________________ 97 black Mustang GT 5-speed(fully loaded) mods - MGW short throw, Steeda race pedels, K&N drop in, Flowmaster 40's coming soon - orh, JLT CAI, 4.10's, P.I. intake, P.I. cams, underdrives pullies, and other bolt-ons shooting for 240rwhp

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April 23rd, 2007, 11:47 AM	#4
jaamfoster Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 31	My local shop wanted to put on Foxlake stage 2 heads,w/comp. cams,said I would have 275-300 rwhp,and wanted $5200 for the job I said keep it,too much.

April 23rd, 2007, 02:08 PM	#7
DragonFreak Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 422	id do the super charger...then save the money up and get the motor redone with forged internals and get your heads p&p at that time

April 23rd, 2007, 04:46 PM	#8
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	Yeah the blower will be cheaper and easier in the short run! And take a look at VT heads! __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

April 23rd, 2007, 07:26 PM	#9
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,865	I heard they got their shit together finally. But Im only 30 miles from their shop and meet a guy at the dragstrip one day and I was talking to him and mentioned patriot performance. The guy said he used to work there. So I asked about the valve guides, and if that problem was fixed because I heard it was. He told me that he doubted that it was fixed and that he wouldnt buy shit from patriot performance. He would have them do port work but nothing else. Take this as you please, Im just passing on information that I heard. It could just be bullshit from a disgruntled ex employee.

April 23rd, 2007, 08:47 PM	#10
Monster stang 97 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: findlay, Ohio Posts: 65	hmmm i might just do the allen supercharger......anyone here have a shop but on diff heads and intake and how much did it rack ya? the same goes for s/c'ed peeps...how much did the shop charge for s/c install? lemme know guys __________________ 97 black Mustang GT 5-speed(fully loaded) mods - MGW short throw, Steeda race pedels, K&N drop in, Flowmaster 40's coming soon - orh, JLT CAI, 4.10's, P.I. intake, P.I. cams, underdrives pullies, and other bolt-ons shooting for 240rwhp

April 24th, 2007, 01:32 AM	#11
Monster stang 97 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: findlay, Ohio Posts: 65	i ment to say anyone here have a speed shop put on there heads and intake?(or just a supercharger) and how much did u end up payin??? __________________ 97 black Mustang GT 5-speed(fully loaded) mods - MGW short throw, Steeda race pedels, K&N drop in, Flowmaster 40's coming soon - orh, JLT CAI, 4.10's, P.I. intake, P.I. cams, underdrives pullies, and other bolt-ons shooting for 240rwhp

April 24th, 2007, 07:27 AM	#12
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436	supercharge it. it will get you more power than heads and cams. it shouldnt run you more than 300-500 to get it installed __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

April 24th, 2007, 05:50 PM	#13
Monster stang 97 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: findlay, Ohio Posts: 65	ok sweet...i take it putting heads and cams and intake will prolly cost way more...i heard like a grand or 2.....depend where ya go. but also i want to get my supercharger installed and dyno tuned at the same place....with that being said anyplace in Ohio or around the Findlay/toledo area that can do both and is very good at tuning mustangs????? thanx so much for the info guys __________________ 97 black Mustang GT 5-speed(fully loaded) mods - MGW short throw, Steeda race pedels, K&N drop in, Flowmaster 40's coming soon - orh, JLT CAI, 4.10's, P.I. intake, P.I. cams, underdrives pullies, and other bolt-ons shooting for 240rwhp

April 25th, 2007, 05:42 PM	#14
Monster stang 97 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: findlay, Ohio Posts: 65	someone please answer my last post!...please i really need to know a good place __________________ 97 black Mustang GT 5-speed(fully loaded) mods - MGW short throw, Steeda race pedels, K&N drop in, Flowmaster 40's coming soon - orh, JLT CAI, 4.10's, P.I. intake, P.I. cams, underdrives pullies, and other bolt-ons shooting for 240rwhp

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April 26th, 2007, 06:36 PM	#15
Monster stang 97 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: findlay, Ohio Posts: 65	anyone????? guess not... __________________ 97 black Mustang GT 5-speed(fully loaded) mods - MGW short throw, Steeda race pedels, K&N drop in, Flowmaster 40's coming soon - orh, JLT CAI, 4.10's, P.I. intake, P.I. cams, underdrives pullies, and other bolt-ons shooting for 240rwhp

April 26th, 2007, 08:18 PM	#16
Boomer Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: warren, Mi Posts: 941	Modular depot, I think they are closer to KY or even in the state now. __________________ Just another 10 second Mustang, what did you expect ? http://youtube.com/watch?v=BgykaUrmfvM