Cam Swap On SOHC 4.6 1998 GT

maxium · June 21st, 2010, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by 93HatchsBFF

so what year again did the PI cams come with pressed on cam gears? and on the 96-98 with the PI complete swap what are the 1/2 mile times average?

I believe the Romeo engines (03-04) had the bolt on cam gears while all the Windsor type (99-03) had the pressed on gears (I think there was some overlap in Romeo/windsor types in 03).

93HatchsBFF · June 22nd, 2010, 05:13 PM

dang that sucks. and with aftermarket cams do they come with the cam gears on them or do we gotta put them on and degree them ourselves?

93HatchsBFF · June 22nd, 2010, 05:32 PM

Also with the PI head swap and PI cams do you need a tune afterwards or would it be fine?

G.T. Rags · June 22nd, 2010, 06:01 PM

if you are running stock pi cams and heads you won't require a tune.... hell, even with aftermarket parts you can get away with no tune. stock parts it won't be so ruff, but with the aftermarket stuff it will. and you won't be utilizing your parts to there full potential. you could prolly squeeze 5-10hp out of a stock car and 20 or so out of a modded one

zdkel · June 30th, 2010, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by G.T. Rags

if you are running stock pi cams and heads you won't require a tune.... hell, even with aftermarket parts you can get away with no tune. stock parts it won't be so ruff, but with the aftermarket stuff it will. and you won't be utilizing your parts to there full potential. you could prolly squeeze 5-10hp out of a stock car and 20 or so out of a modded one

well I took delivery on used PI cams, and I got that itch. So what y'all are saying is (on a stock 96) bolt them in and go, right? Well and swapping in the PI intake of course.

G.T. Rags · June 30th, 2010, 09:04 PM

pretty much....

starin · July 12th, 2010, 01:55 AM

casper can you do a much more detail write up like this for a guy whose never dont this before? i want to buy the 2 tools you used so i can do this without taking the timing cover off, theres a few things im lost about. thanks so much if you can.

Blower Head · July 12th, 2010, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by starin

casper can you do a much more detail write up like this for a guy whose never dont this before? i want to buy the 2 tools you used so i can do this without taking the timing cover off, theres a few things im lost about. thanks so much if you can.

The two tools I think you are referring to are : cam tension retention tool you can get from Anderson motorsports and a ford valve spring tool (got mine from amazon).

wrenchhog44 · January 20th, 2011, 06:40 PM

Would love to get the part number for that tool to hold the timing chain in place if you get a chance.

NeverEnuff · January 20th, 2011, 07:53 PM

I didn't read all replies...sorry. But I saw about the cam gears.

96-98 GTs were bolt on gears (romeo)
99/00 GT were press on gears, truck motors (windsor)
mid-01-04 GTs were bolt on as well.

Basically Windsor motors came in trucks were all pressed on gears. Mustang cars got the truck motors from 99/00, hence the pressed on gears...If you have a romeo motor. Pressed on gears.

Buck91 · January 21st, 2011, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by wrenchhog44

Would love to get the part number for that tool to hold the timing chain in place if you get a chance.

Check out AFM. I used their tool and it worked GREAT. Two tips though.
1. DONT USE WITH AFTERMARKET CAMS as they should be properly degreed
2. Follow the instructions. Turn the crank to "suck" the tool in, its not a pry bar

wrenchhog44 · January 22nd, 2011, 02:14 PM

Thanks a lot.

wrenchhog44 · January 23rd, 2011, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

but who knows how to degree a cam, let alone has ever heard of it. Especally since a broad majority of owners of the NPI cars are under 25

You may be surprised. Most, if not all of the gearheads I hang out with are well aware of the term and what it means, they simply lack the knowledge to perform such an operation.

mach1soldier · January 23rd, 2011, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by wrenchhog44

You may be surprised. Most, if not all of the gearheads I hang out with are well aware of the term and what it means, they simply lack the knowledge to perform such an operation.

I couldn't agree more. All of my friends are young as well but they all know what degreeing is. The process and tools though is what keeps them from doing it.

dbeesokc · February 25th, 2011, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by noppe180

nice write up

I also have a 98 Gt Convertible, is yours auto or manual? If auto, have you had any transmission work done on it? Shift kit? Rebuild? Mine is beginning to show some signs of wear and I was just wondering what others had experienced in this arena.

June 22nd, 2010, 05:13 PM	#122
93HatchsBFF Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX 12.60 at 109mph Join Date: May 2008 Location: Obamastan, AZ Posts: 1,254 iTrader: 0 reviews	dang that sucks. and with aftermarket cams do they come with the cam gears on them or do we gotta put them on and degree them ourselves? __________________ 1989 LX mustang, 5speed, 108,xxx miles, Mac Longtubes, BBK midpipe, Paxton Novi 1000 6psi, Crappy FMU with 19lb injectors, 373 gears soon to come 30lb injectors, Blow through MAF, intercooler and tune

June 22nd, 2010, 05:32 PM	#123
93HatchsBFF Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX 12.60 at 109mph Join Date: May 2008 Location: Obamastan, AZ Posts: 1,254 iTrader: 0 reviews	Also with the PI head swap and PI cams do you need a tune afterwards or would it be fine? __________________ 1989 LX mustang, 5speed, 108,xxx miles, Mac Longtubes, BBK midpipe, Paxton Novi 1000 6psi, Crappy FMU with 19lb injectors, 373 gears soon to come 30lb injectors, Blow through MAF, intercooler and tune

July 12th, 2010, 01:55 AM	#127
starin Regular Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 72 iTrader: 0 reviews	casper can you do a much more detail write up like this for a guy whose never dont this before? i want to buy the 2 tools you used so i can do this without taking the timing cover off, theres a few things im lost about. thanks so much if you can. __________________ KNN FIPK kit, Hid headlights, MGW short shifter, Offroad BBK x-pipe, 4.10 gears.

January 20th, 2011, 06:40 PM	#129
wrenchhog44 Regular 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 140 iTrader: 0 reviews	Special tool? Would love to get the part number for that tool to hold the timing chain in place if you get a chance. __________________ When in doubt, go by the rule of dog... If you can't eat it or f*ck it, just piss on it and walk away.

January 20th, 2011, 07:53 PM	#130
NeverEnuff Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX Coupe 7.1@99mph Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,695 iTrader: 0 reviews	I didn't read all replies...sorry. But I saw about the cam gears. 96-98 GTs were bolt on gears (romeo) 99/00 GT were press on gears, truck motors (windsor) mid-01-04 GTs were bolt on as well. Basically Windsor motors came in trucks were all pressed on gears. Mustang cars got the truck motors from 99/00, hence the pressed on gears...If you have a romeo motor. Pressed on gears. __________________ 89 LX Coupe-Carb'd 32v-437rwhp NA, 592rwhp N20 01 Bullitt-32v swapped 96 GT-Cammed E85 www.KPERacing.com

January 22nd, 2011, 02:14 PM	#132
wrenchhog44 Regular 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 140 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks a lot. __________________ When in doubt, go by the rule of dog... If you can't eat it or f*ck it, just piss on it and walk away.

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