Pulling the 4.6

1996 GT · May 26th, 2011, 10:28 PM

My end goal is to get 300hp. after the summer in the winter i plan on doing a full PI swap, CAI, 75mm TB, new MAF. Oh and a tune after. How close will the put me to 300hp? Also how much will i be looking to pay for the heads, cams and intake manifold? Any more suggestions to upgrades and what i should and shouldn't do are much welcomed.

Also i plan on painting the whole engine block in high temp engine enamel. I think that i want to paint it red, any suggestions? My car is black and has gunmetal bullitts. Also want to put some diffrent valve covers on it too. I plan on doing this next winter.

I want these, but i need to find some that will actually fit onto a 4.6

Ford Racing Black Aluminum Mustang Valve Covers (289/302/351W) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

SWEET2KSTANG · May 26th, 2011, 10:31 PM

you wont get to 300 on pi cams. a set of aftermarket cams will get you there or very close.

1996 GT · May 26th, 2011, 10:42 PM

What cams should i be looking at getting instead?

MustGT98allday · May 26th, 2011, 10:44 PM

ill sell you my set of custom blue/black valve covers for your build. I think black and blue look a lot better than black and red but its your car. Just saying. PM me if you want a pic of the valve cover!!!

SWEET2KSTANG · May 26th, 2011, 11:23 PM

depends what youre going for. i like mhs and hitech cams personally.

1996 GT · May 26th, 2011, 11:30 PM

Were would i be with just PI,CAI, TB and MAF? around 270ish?

SWEET2KSTANG · May 27th, 2011, 12:00 AM

right at. with header back, you would get just hair more.

JK7208 · May 27th, 2011, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by 1996 GT

Were would i be with just PI,CAI, TB and MAF? around 270ish?

I put down 278 rwhp / 295 rwtq after my PI swap with (stock PI cams) and full bolt-ons dyno tuned.

1996 GT · May 27th, 2011, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by JK7208

I put down 278 rwhp / 295 rwtq after my PI swap with (stock PI cams) and full bolt-ons dyno tuned.

Thats not bad at all. I may do that, id like to see if i can find some affordable cams. Ill just go to alot of swap meets and thing along those lines. I need some LT headers also but this will be one good project. What other heads, cams and intake manifold will fit? What about Mark VIII cams and heads?

BAzombie · May 27th, 2011, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by JK7208

I put down 278 rwhp / 295 rwtq after my PI swap with (stock PI cams) and full bolt-ons dyno tuned.

I got the same mods as you, minus the udp's & gears (shouldn't matter) but w/ ported heads and only hit 262 rwhp / 301 rwtq.

Finally got to a dyno ...

MustGT98allday · May 27th, 2011, 09:21 PM

heres a question that goes along with what sweet2k said. If we do the pi swap and get some cams (whether mhs, hitech, or comp) how big of cams can we go before needing springs and retainers?

97S281 · May 27th, 2011, 09:46 PM

Usually stage 1 cams retain the original springs, stage 2 require upgrades.

1996 GT · May 27th, 2011, 10:01 PM

Comp Cams Stage I Xtreme Energy XE262AH Mustang Camshafts (96-04 4.6L 2V) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

Those plus PI heads and intake manifold. How would that work and how much hp would i have by the end of it?

cstreu1026 · May 28th, 2011, 10:34 AM

With the PI swap, BBK long tube, off road h pipe, C&L plenum, Mac throttle body, Mac catback, K&N CAI, and a tune I put down 262 RWHP. With Comp 270's and comp valve springs it made 301 RWHP after a lot of tuning

JK7208 · May 28th, 2011, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by 1996 GT

Thats not bad at all. I may do that, id like to see if i can find some affordable cams. Ill just go to alot of swap meets and thing along those lines. I need some LT headers also but this will be one good project. What other heads, cams and intake manifold will fit? What about Mark VIII cams and heads?

thats the big ? is the hp vs $ amount worth it?

1996 GT · May 28th, 2011, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by JK7208

thats the big ? is the hp vs $ amount worth it?

Well i plan on going to a wrecking yard this summer. Or atleast a few of them

Plus it would be a good winter project anyways and will give me something to do. Either way its getting pulled just for new gaskets and paint on the inner fenders and block its self so thought i mind aswell add some power too

canada_gt · May 29th, 2011, 02:21 AM

very fun pulling 4.6 out we got it done in 2 hrs with some bloody knuckles lol

The Cheeks McDuke · May 29th, 2011, 04:05 AM

How about this, If you're in SoCal Of course.

4.6 ltr mustang motor

Right down the street from me....grrr at not having money lol

1996 GT · May 29th, 2011, 09:30 AM

Man that bugs me i live to far, i would totally pick that up to.

allaboutcars101 · May 29th, 2011, 09:42 AM

go with stage 1 comp cams. if you want any good performance your going to need cams, the stock ones are good, but just not for 300hp. i havent had my car to the dyno yet so im not sure what im running. but here is my setup

04 GT
stage 1 comp cams 262s (stock retainers and springs)
LTs
o/r xpipe
flowmaster catback
k&n intake
intake spacer from AM (i didnt put it on there)
and a SCT tuner with 3 'custom bama tunes'

my best run was a 13.68 at 101 with bald street tires and no tune, but im not experienced on the track either, went back friday night with my tune and new street tires, i ran a 13.8 at 104mph and that when i bogged on the launch, i couldnt find that 'sweet spot' with my street tires, bog down or burn em down.

seeing that my mph went up, i should be running a better time than what i am. im hoping next time i have radials and can really put down some #s

May 26th, 2011, 10:28 PM	#1
1996 GT Traction...? 1996 GT/ 2008 GT Vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,207 iTrader: 0 reviews	Pulling the 4.6 My end goal is to get 300hp. after the summer in the winter i plan on doing a full PI swap, CAI, 75mm TB, new MAF. Oh and a tune after. How close will the put me to 300hp? Also how much will i be looking to pay for the heads, cams and intake manifold? Any more suggestions to upgrades and what i should and shouldn't do are much welcomed. Also i plan on painting the whole engine block in high temp engine enamel. I think that i want to paint it red, any suggestions? My car is black and has gunmetal bullitts. Also want to put some diffrent valve covers on it too. I plan on doing this next winter. I want these, but i need to find some that will actually fit onto a 4.6 Ford Racing Black Aluminum Mustang Valve Covers (289/302/351W) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

May 26th, 2011, 10:31 PM	#2
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	you wont get to 300 on pi cams. a set of aftermarket cams will get you there or very close. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

May 26th, 2011, 10:44 PM	#4
MustGT98allday Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,282 iTrader: 2 reviews	ill sell you my set of custom blue/black valve covers for your build. I think black and blue look a lot better than black and red but its your car. Just saying. PM me if you want a pic of the valve cover!!! __________________ pi swapped and dropped sn95

May 26th, 2011, 11:23 PM	#5
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	depends what youre going for. i like mhs and hitech cams personally. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

May 27th, 2011, 12:00 AM	#7
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	right at. with header back, you would get just hair more. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

May 26th, 2011, 10:42 PM	#3
1996 GT Traction...? 1996 GT/ 2008 GT Vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,207 iTrader: 0 reviews	What cams should i be looking at getting instead?

May 26th, 2011, 11:30 PM	#6
1996 GT Traction...? 1996 GT/ 2008 GT Vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,207 iTrader: 0 reviews	Were would i be with just PI,CAI, TB and MAF? around 270ish?

May 27th, 2011, 09:21 PM	#11
MustGT98allday Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,282 iTrader: 2 reviews	heres a question that goes along with what sweet2k said. If we do the pi swap and get some cams (whether mhs, hitech, or comp) how big of cams can we go before needing springs and retainers? __________________ pi swapped and dropped sn95

May 27th, 2011, 09:46 PM	#12
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	Usually stage 1 cams retain the original springs, stage 2 require upgrades. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

May 27th, 2011, 10:01 PM	#13
1996 GT Traction...? 1996 GT/ 2008 GT Vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,207 iTrader: 0 reviews	Comp Cams Stage I Xtreme Energy XE262AH Mustang Camshafts (96-04 4.6L 2V) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! Those plus PI heads and intake manifold. How would that work and how much hp would i have by the end of it?

May 28th, 2011, 10:34 AM	#14
cstreu1026 Regular All Motor 1998 GT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Xenia, OH Posts: 338 iTrader: 0 reviews	With the PI swap, BBK long tube, off road h pipe, C&L plenum, Mac throttle body, Mac catback, K&N CAI, and a tune I put down 262 RWHP. With Comp 270's and comp valve springs it made 301 RWHP after a lot of tuning

May 29th, 2011, 02:21 AM	#17
canada_gt Regular 1996 mustang gt Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Squamish B.C CANADA Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 reviews	very fun pulling 4.6 out we got it done in 2 hrs with some bloody knuckles lol __________________ 1996 gt new motor and hopefully more POWA 1988 5.0L lx sold

May 29th, 2011, 04:05 AM	#18
The Cheeks McDuke MM's Barbarian 1996 V6 17.31@85 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Silverdale, WA Posts: 748 iTrader: 0 reviews	How about this, If you're in SoCal Of course. 4.6 ltr mustang motor Right down the street from me....grrr at not having money lol __________________ "I'm not going to sit here and take this defeatist attitude and listen to all this crap any more from all these people who have nothing but doomsday to predict." Carroll Shelby

May 29th, 2011, 09:30 AM	#19
1996 GT Traction...? 1996 GT/ 2008 GT Vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,207 iTrader: 0 reviews	Man that bugs me i live to far, i would totally pick that up to.

May 29th, 2011, 09:42 AM	#20
allaboutcars101 Regular 2004 Mustang GT 13.68@102.41 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Suffolk, VA Posts: 346 iTrader: 0 reviews	go with stage 1 comp cams. if you want any good performance your going to need cams, the stock ones are good, but just not for 300hp. i havent had my car to the dyno yet so im not sure what im running. but here is my setup 04 GT stage 1 comp cams 262s (stock retainers and springs) LTs o/r xpipe flowmaster catback k&n intake intake spacer from AM (i didnt put it on there) and a SCT tuner with 3 'custom bama tunes' my best run was a 13.68 at 101 with bald street tires and no tune, but im not experienced on the track either, went back friday night with my tune and new street tires, i ran a 13.8 at 104mph and that when i bogged on the launch, i couldnt find that 'sweet spot' with my street tires, bog down or burn em down. seeing that my mph went up, i should be running a better time than what i am. im hoping next time i have radials and can really put down some #s __________________ Good Cars Get You From Point A To Point B. Great Cars Get You In Trouble.

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