[ModularSpeed]

Well, after being a die hard N/A kinda guy all these years, I have decided to take a step into the turbocharged world.

My current car is a 1998 Cobra, with a 2003 Mach 1 Longblock. I put 96-98 Cobra Intake cams in it, and with bolt-ons it was making 346rwhp, and good enough for 11.6's@118 on Drag Radials with a 1.6 sixty foot.

This car is basically a full bolt-on car, with some suspension and the other "goodies" that push it more towards the "drag car" type.

I will try and keep this thread updated as much as possible with pictures, my opinion on the kit, dyno results, track results....etc. My goal is basically to run 8 PSI, run 10's with ease, and not destroy the T45 I am currently running.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

Changes:

• On3 Performance 4V Forward Facing Turbo Kit
• ModularSpeed ported intake removed,stock intake installed
• 30# Injectors Removed, 55# Injectors Installed
• 90mm LMAF Removed, VMP HPX MAF Installed
• Stock Thermostat/Housing Removed, Modified Cooling System Installed
• 4.56 Gears Removed, 3.73 Gears Installed
• 15x3.5 Billet Specialties/Skinnies Removed, 17" of the same wheel Installed

Initial Impressions

I got the kit a few days after ordering, and everything was there except a few fittings for the turbo/oil lines....and a fitting for the oil filter relocation. I was told that I would have them in a few days after I received the other parts....and that I did. I was contacted to ensure I received them as well.

I have had a few questions here and there about some stuff....and Chad and Mike have been very helpful along the way. They also gave me some recommendations on the install, which I appreciate very much.

Customer service up to this point, A+

The kit......... This kit, when in your hand is very nice looking. I am a VERY picky person, as the On3 gang can probably agree.... There are a few small things I see with this kit, which I feel I could probably upgrade, or "touch" up....but I don't really want to. I want to put the kit on, as it comes....and see what type of gains I get both on the dyno, the track...and the street.

I will be honest, I was very impressed initially.....by the quality of the components....but I know "time will tell" the truth. I am pretty confident I will not have any negative issues with this kit. I did NOT buy this kit to daily drive, nor to put 20,000+ miles on. I bought this kit to put on a car that sees 2,000 miles every 2 years, and stays in my garage 365 nights of the year.

If this kit performs to my expectations, I will be very pleased. And do not think for ONE MINUTE, that is there are small issues/hang ups along the way that I will complain.....as I realize I saved thousands by going this route. If I need to make a cut here, a weld there....or even re-do all the connections....I honestly do not care.


The kit came just about exactly as pictured:


Some Hardware


Gettin her ready


Tearin her apart



I was very impatient, installed these in a few hours after the kit arrived....so soon that I forgot to take pictures....my bad







Instructions tell me not to install headers before oil filter relocation....BLAH!



I did not use the hardware that came witht he kit for the header bolts....I used "Stage 8" Bolts as I have always had great luck with them.

I ALSO (which I may regret) decided to use the header gaskets that came with this kit....they are the cheapo type....but I want to use the kit as it is. Anyone including myself can make a kit work, or "better" than it comes....but I have a feeling that this stock motor wont last too long....so I will coat everything and use better stuff the next go around.

Here is the "GT" lower radiator hose I decided to use. I chose to get rid of the 4V style system, to create some additional clearance for the piping in that area. I am installing a Meziere Billet T-Stat housing, along with a Meziere 180deg T-Stat



VMP HPX Maf, VMP MAF Flange, VMP Harness to adapt the 05+ slot style MAF


Meziere Billet T-Sta housing, and T-Stat. AWESOME PART


I will have more as I go!

[1996 GT]

So your saying you want to run close to 400hp with a t45 transmission and run 10's? Personally i think the t45 is going to blow up at some point, its not the greatest transmission from the start, put with that much power you might start running into some issues unless you build it up.

I also want to see videos of this 10 second run. Kind of interested in that.

Aside from that, awesome build man, keep us posted.

[ChrisJ]

Nice...

I think the shift fork will fail on the T45 though...

[cobra99svt]

The shift forks will definately fail. I am NA on my 99 cobra and have already had to have it rebuilt. 3rd & 4th shift forks broke when I was racing a fox body. I only have just typical bolt ons. I plan on using this kit for my 99 build.

Looks good so far. Let us know how it all comes along.

[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by cobra99svt The shift forks will definately fail. I am NA on my 99 cobra and have already had to have it rebuilt. 3rd & 4th shift forks broke when I was racing a fox body. I only have just typical bolt ons. I plan on using this kit for my 99 build. Looks good so far. Let us know how it all comes along.

I know a guy in louisville, KY that has billet T45 shift forks made and have yet to had one break or bend...

[ModularSpeed]

Originally Posted by 1996 GT So your saying you want to run close to 400hp with a t45 transmission and run 10's? Personally i think the t45 is going to blow up at some point, its not the greatest transmission from the start, put with that much power you might start running into some issues unless you build it up. I also want to see videos of this 10 second run. Kind of interested in that. Aside from that, awesome build man, keep us posted.

Correct. Well, Kinda. Looking for 500 rwhp, and 10's with ease. The car was an easy 11.4 on a slick....so gaining 150 rwhp should cause the car to gain any less than 7 tenths in my opinion.

Originally Posted by ChrisJ Nice... I think the shift fork will fail on the T45 though...

I don't think it will.

Originally Posted by cobra99svt The shift forks will definately fail. I am NA on my 99 cobra and have already had to have it rebuilt. 3rd & 4th shift forks broke when I was racing a fox body. I only have just typical bolt ons. I plan on using this kit for my 99 build. Looks good so far. Let us know how it all comes along.

The fork will be fine.

Originally Posted by ChrisJ I know a guy in louisville, KY that has billet T45 shift forks made and have yet to had one break or bend...

And that would be what is in my trans.

Here is the last one I broke/will ever break....and the new one that has been in the trans for a while now.

[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by ModularSpeed And that would be what is in my trans. Here is the last one I broke/will ever break....and the new one that has been in the trans for a while now.

You get it from Rob or someone else?

[zinc-vert02]

looking good

[1996 GT]

LOL never mind, if that fork breaks or bends then something isnt right.

[cobra99svt]

Dang! You right, you will not be breaking them again. Where did you get those billet forks at, and how much do they run?

[xSiLV3R_BULL3Tx]

Im installing this kit on my 2000 gt right now also, but the oil filter relocation kit they gave me dosent seem to fit, and im missing fittings for the turbo feed line. So im in a hole right now

[ModularSpeed]

Originally Posted by cobra99svt Dang! You right, you will not be breaking them again. Where did you get those billet forks at, and how much do they run?

bottlefdgt on Corral.net IIRC, they are $150/each....but this was over a year ago.

Originally Posted by xSiLV3R_BULL3Tx Im installing this kit on my 2000 gt right now also, but the oil filter relocation kit they gave me dosent seem to fit, and im missing fittings for the turbo feed line. So im in a hole right now

I have all the fittings. I have had this kit for a while now (probably the first or second person to have one in their hands)....I am pretty sure they (On3) are having problems getting some of the parts from their vendors.

They are working on an all new CNC'd oil/coolant adapter plate type deal I believe....so THEY can provide the parts.....instead of using other manufacturers. I have been in the aftermarket automotive retail biz a LONG time, and I know what it is like to rely on others for parts....it can be a PITA.

I am sure the people who do not have their fittings will be taken care of. If it were me, I'd just source the fittings locally, or from MSC / McMaster Carr / Grainger etc....to get it done.

[ModularSpeed]

Didn't get a lot done last night. Goal was to solder on the MAF, finish up the Oil Filter Relocation, Gap/Install Plugs, and tap/install the oil drain fitting to oil pan. I started working at 10:00....and discovered my solder is missing, and my punch/tap necessary for the oil drain are missing..... I moved recently, and believe those are at my other house...

I was able to install the new NGK TR6 plugs. They were pretty much "pre-gapped" at where I wanted them, but I regapped them anyways....




I also went ahead and cleaned the area where I will be installing the fitting for the oil drain. The hole needs to be 5/8" down from the top of the oil pan....and 1-7/8" to the right of the center of the second oil pan bolt (from left to right)

[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by ModularSpeed bottlefdgt on Corral.net IIRC, they are $150/each....but this was over a year ago. I have all the fittings. I have had this kit for a while now (probably the first or second person to have one in their hands)....I am pretty sure they (On3) are having problems getting some of the parts from their vendors. They are working on an all new CNC'd oil/coolant adapter plate type deal I believe....so THEY can provide the parts.....instead of using other manufacturers. I have been in the aftermarket automotive retail biz a LONG time, and I know what it is like to rely on others for parts....it can be a PITA. I am sure the people who do not have their fittings will be taken care of. If it were me, I'd just source the fittings locally, or from MSC / McMaster Carr / Grainger etc....to get it done.

Yep that is Rob (bottledGT)...He still sells them...If you cant get ahold of him let me know I will get some contact info for ya...

[xSiLV3R_BULL3Tx]

Yea im sure thats what I will end up doing, its just kinda irritating that it didnt come with them. So can u put on the relocation kit after u put the drivers side header on? Because I would like to start putting the car back together instead of waiting on fittings.

[99Ls1fever]

Hell Yeah, Sick Build! Very excited to see this all come together. What turbo did you go with? the on3 70mm or the mp70?

[ModularSpeed]

Originally Posted by xSiLV3R_BULL3Tx So can u put on the relocation kit after u put the drivers side header on? Because I would like to start putting the car back together instead of waiting on fittings.

Read the writing above the 12th pic I posted

Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever Hell Yeah, Sick Build! Very excited to see this all come together. What turbo did you go with? the on3 70mm or the mp70?

On3 70mm

[99Ls1fever]

Do you have a link to that Meziere Billet T-Sta housing, and T-Stat. that you got, I really like how you ran that and how it will clean up the engine bay and remove some other the junk in the front of the motor. And then you dont have to run that polished cross over tube in the front, i really like the way you did it.

Sorry if any of this is broke english, this is hard to write on a cell phone.


Also, WOW that motor and engine bay are clean!!!!

[ModularSpeed]

Meziere Enterprises

Thanks! I like my stuff to be clean and look good, while going as fast as possible. It's tedious....but worth it IMO.

[99Ls1fever]

Sweet, Thanks Man. Are you going to try to heat wrap the hot side of the kit?

Also cant wait to see more pics and updates!