97 gt no start.....

Mohater · July 15th, 2011, 05:35 AM

Would you be better off with a nicely timed 262 over a retarded 270 in light of PTV clearance?

mtw002 · July 17th, 2011, 02:55 AM

I'm just going to run stock cams for now. Its being built so April can run it down at Pueblo. Cant have her car faster than mine lol. I got the stock heads and cams today. Monday i have to run to Ford to pick up the 2 timing chain dowel pins. And I'll just have to piece together a gasket set since everyone wants your left nut and first born for a engine gasket set.

Mohater · July 17th, 2011, 04:26 AM

NM, stupid question, you have a donor 2V.

mtw002 · July 18th, 2011, 06:58 PM

Ok so i got the 4v block tore down. I even cleaned up a lot of carbon that was caked on the top of the pistons.

Marked the coolant hole that has to be drilled for the 2v heads, then drilled it.

Got the heads torqued down.

MATT02GT · July 19th, 2011, 01:16 AM

Lookin good mike. Lemme know when you do the cams n stuff, I need a lesson.

mtw002 · July 19th, 2011, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by MATT02GT

Lookin good mike. Lemme know when you do the cams n stuff, I need a lesson.

It'll be a lesson for us both lol.

NeverEnuff · July 19th, 2011, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mohater

Would you be better off with a nicely timed 262 over a retarded 270 in light of PTV clearance?

Yup.

mtw002 · July 19th, 2011, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by NeverEnuff

Yup.

So how about i drive down there and we notch my pistons and re-degree them????

NeverEnuff · July 19th, 2011, 03:48 PM

^ im all for it buddy. Itll only take a day.

But didn't you already bolt the heads down...

mtw002 · July 19th, 2011, 04:28 PM

I was talking about my 03gt lol.

NeverEnuff · July 19th, 2011, 04:40 PM

^ oH. wELL NOW i DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

lol.

mtw002 · July 19th, 2011, 04:57 PM

^ How about i send you my stock cams w/gears and you degree them and send them back?

NeverEnuff · July 19th, 2011, 05:03 PM

The PI ones? Going in the 97?

mtw002 · July 19th, 2011, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by NeverEnuff

The PI ones? Going in the 97?

^ Yeah... going on the teskid block.

Mohater · July 21st, 2011, 01:39 PM

How are you gonna clay those pistons when you start advancing the stock cams?

NeverEnuff · July 21st, 2011, 05:26 PM

Thats old school. F that. Claying pistons isnt very accurate. Clay can move and squish more...

Just use your dial indicator...

And unless you advance the HELL out of stock PI cams...you won't have any issues! YOu can run 262s down to about 106-107* ICL till its too tight. PI cams have a lot less duration than 262s...

Mohater · July 23rd, 2011, 01:05 PM

Even with that 4V bottom end? That's the only reason I ask.

mtw002 · July 25th, 2011, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Mohater

Even with that 4V bottom end? That's the only reason I ask.

The piston lip is all the same height. The intake valve would hit in the exact same place as on a normal 4.6 block so yes even with the 4v bottom end. Ill take some pictures when i get the npi block pulled out today or tomorrow.

NeverEnuff · July 28th, 2011, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mohater

Even with that 4V bottom end? That's the only reason I ask.

Mike is right. Look at the pistons and dish. The dish doesn't make it to the edge of the piston...and the valves sit on the very edge of the cyl wall. So piston dish does NOT matter in a modular. 2v, 3v, 4v...Itll still contact in the same place...flattop or 22cc dish...

mtw002 · July 31st, 2011, 07:50 PM

So I got the motor re-installed but I'm back to square 1. It turns over, its getting spark and seems to be getting fuel. I'll be checking fuel pressure in a bit. Any other ideas????

July 17th, 2011, 02:55 AM	#22
mtw002 Enthusiast 2003 vert gt 12.703@ 107.65 KCIR Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Springs CO Posts: 662 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm just going to run stock cams for now. Its being built so April can run it down at Pueblo. Cant have her car faster than mine lol. I got the stock heads and cams today. Monday i have to run to Ford to pick up the 2 timing chain dowel pins. And I'll just have to piece together a gasket set since everyone wants your left nut and first born for a engine gasket set. __________________ Cars Dont Power The Front Wheels, They Lift Them 4v teksid block w/2v heads FINISHED 14 April 2010 2003 vert gt 2v teskid build 12.7 @ 107 (SOLD) 1989 mustang lx

July 17th, 2011, 04:26 AM	#23
Mohater Newbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	NM, stupid question, you have a donor 2V. Last edited by Mohater; July 17th, 2011 at 10:28 AM.

July 18th, 2011, 06:58 PM	#24
mtw002 Enthusiast 2003 vert gt 12.703@ 107.65 KCIR Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Springs CO Posts: 662 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok so i got the 4v block tore down. I even cleaned up a lot of carbon that was caked on the top of the pistons. Marked the coolant hole that has to be drilled for the 2v heads, then drilled it. Got the heads torqued down. __________________ Cars Dont Power The Front Wheels, They Lift Them 4v teksid block w/2v heads FINISHED 14 April 2010 2003 vert gt 2v teskid build 12.7 @ 107 (SOLD) 1989 mustang lx Last edited by mtw002; July 18th, 2011 at 07:15 PM.

July 19th, 2011, 01:16 AM	#25
MATT02GT The Mean Green Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 4,164 iTrader: 1 reviews	Lookin good mike. Lemme know when you do the cams n stuff, I need a lesson. __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

July 19th, 2011, 03:48 PM	#29
NeverEnuff Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX Coupe 7.1@99mph Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,695 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ im all for it buddy. Itll only take a day. But didn't you already bolt the heads down... __________________ 89 LX Coupe-Carb'd 32v-437rwhp NA, 592rwhp N20 01 Bullitt-32v swapped 96 GT-Cammed E85 www.KPERacing.com

July 15th, 2011, 05:35 AM	#21
Mohater Newbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	Would you be better off with a nicely timed 262 over a retarded 270 in light of PTV clearance?

July 19th, 2011, 04:28 PM	#30
mtw002 Enthusiast 2003 vert gt 12.703@ 107.65 KCIR Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Springs CO Posts: 662 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was talking about my 03gt lol. __________________ Cars Dont Power The Front Wheels, They Lift Them 4v teksid block w/2v heads FINISHED 14 April 2010 2003 vert gt 2v teskid build 12.7 @ 107 (SOLD) 1989 mustang lx

July 19th, 2011, 04:40 PM	#31
NeverEnuff Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX Coupe 7.1@99mph Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,695 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ oH. wELL NOW i DON'T WANT TO DO IT. lol. __________________ 89 LX Coupe-Carb'd 32v-437rwhp NA, 592rwhp N20 01 Bullitt-32v swapped 96 GT-Cammed E85 www.KPERacing.com

July 19th, 2011, 04:57 PM	#32
mtw002 Enthusiast 2003 vert gt 12.703@ 107.65 KCIR Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Springs CO Posts: 662 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ How about i send you my stock cams w/gears and you degree them and send them back? __________________ Cars Dont Power The Front Wheels, They Lift Them 4v teksid block w/2v heads FINISHED 14 April 2010 2003 vert gt 2v teskid build 12.7 @ 107 (SOLD) 1989 mustang lx

July 19th, 2011, 05:03 PM	#33
NeverEnuff Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX Coupe 7.1@99mph Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,695 iTrader: 0 reviews	The PI ones? Going in the 97? __________________ 89 LX Coupe-Carb'd 32v-437rwhp NA, 592rwhp N20 01 Bullitt-32v swapped 96 GT-Cammed E85 www.KPERacing.com

July 21st, 2011, 01:39 PM	#35
Mohater Newbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	How are you gonna clay those pistons when you start advancing the stock cams?

July 21st, 2011, 05:26 PM	#36
NeverEnuff Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX Coupe 7.1@99mph Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,695 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thats old school. F that. Claying pistons isnt very accurate. Clay can move and squish more... Just use your dial indicator... And unless you advance the HELL out of stock PI cams...you won't have any issues! YOu can run 262s down to about 106-107* ICL till its too tight. PI cams have a lot less duration than 262s... __________________ 89 LX Coupe-Carb'd 32v-437rwhp NA, 592rwhp N20 01 Bullitt-32v swapped 96 GT-Cammed E85 www.KPERacing.com

July 23rd, 2011, 01:05 PM	#37
Mohater Newbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	Even with that 4V bottom end? That's the only reason I ask.

July 31st, 2011, 07:50 PM	#40
mtw002 Enthusiast 2003 vert gt 12.703@ 107.65 KCIR Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Springs CO Posts: 662 iTrader: 0 reviews	So I got the motor re-installed but I'm back to square 1. It turns over, its getting spark and seems to be getting fuel. I'll be checking fuel pressure in a bit. Any other ideas???? __________________ Cars Dont Power The Front Wheels, They Lift Them 4v teksid block w/2v heads FINISHED 14 April 2010 2003 vert gt 2v teskid build 12.7 @ 107 (SOLD) 1989 mustang lx

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