80mm massair w/o a tune....

OptionalStang · July 18th, 2011, 10:07 PM

so just for shits and giggles i installed my c&l 80mm massair unit with a 19lb sample tube and a stock mafs..my car is running it just fine, and its a hell of lot faster than with the stock mafs, NOW! dont i need a tune.? i was told that it shouldnt even stay running or have idle surge or a million other problems.Well, i have none..my rpm's at idle while in D sit and about 500 and in park a tad bit over..no surge or anything...how is this possible? my exhaust didnt smell funny, no loss of power( the complete opposite), shifts fine even better id say because it runs out the rpm's a bit more..

cschoening09 · July 18th, 2011, 11:16 PM

so u put the stock sensor in the c&l unit right?

cschoening09 · July 18th, 2011, 11:17 PM

hey btw i have a laser red 97 tbird..with a 3.5 inch ram air cobra r hood from supercoupeperformance.com..lol wanna buy the hood.

sharkbait · July 18th, 2011, 11:41 PM

Errr idk you could be running lean but youd need to datalogg it to find out

p4ndiamond · July 19th, 2011, 12:38 AM

I find this interesting , got links to the part....anything that makes these things faster is ftw lol.

OptionalStang · July 19th, 2011, 12:16 PM

i ran it more..and still no problems or any codes referring to being lean or anythign with teh intake...only codes are from o2 sensors..

OptionalStang · July 19th, 2011, 12:26 PM

its just a 80mm c&l mafs housing unit with a 19ln sample tube in it and a stock 1997 mustang mafs in it..it actually scares me when i gun it doing 30 now..the rpm's fly high then it kicks in gear the wheels give a very nice squak..haha and i picked the c&l part up for 40 bucks only and he threw in a never used plenum spacer.yesyesyes snakeoil, but i like how the intajke sits higher becuase i have a cowl hood and i can see down in there.plus it helps the angle for my coldair intake..
http://www.cnlperformance.com/80mm_96-01.html

Tang Stang · July 20th, 2011, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by OptionalStang

i ran it more..and still no problems or any codes referring to being lean or anythign with teh intake...only codes are from o2 sensors..

Codes relating to the O2 sensors are the ones to be worried about. As already mentioned, without datalogging the car with a WBO2, you just really don't know how "safe" everything is.

billx55 · July 22nd, 2011, 12:37 PM

the same setup on my 96 makes it run lean bank one and two. i have an sct tuner that i need to order a new tune for so i can put the c & L back in

July 18th, 2011, 10:07 PM	#1
OptionalStang Banned 1997 cougar 4.6 1/2PI TooFast4theFUZZ Join Date: May 2011 Location: se wi Posts: 991 iTrader: 1 reviews	80mm massair w/o a tune.... so just for shits and giggles i installed my c&l 80mm massair unit with a 19lb sample tube and a stock mafs..my car is running it just fine, and its a hell of lot faster than with the stock mafs, NOW! dont i need a tune.? i was told that it shouldnt even stay running or have idle surge or a million other problems.Well, i have none..my rpm's at idle while in D sit and about 500 and in park a tad bit over..no surge or anything...how is this possible? my exhaust didnt smell funny, no loss of power( the complete opposite), shifts fine even better id say because it runs out the rpm's a bit more..

July 18th, 2011, 11:16 PM	#2
cschoening09 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 9.30 @ 77mph-1/8th mile 2.2 60' Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 1,703 iTrader: 3 reviews	so u put the stock sensor in the c&l unit right? __________________ 01 GT. 5spd , 03-04 cobra clutch, on its 2nd 4.6l motor2nd tr3650 too,JLT CAI,UPR o/r x, magnapack catback, predator tuned, H&R ss 10.5" bullitts w/ nt555r DR's

July 18th, 2011, 11:17 PM	#3
cschoening09 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 9.30 @ 77mph-1/8th mile 2.2 60' Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 1,703 iTrader: 3 reviews	hey btw i have a laser red 97 tbird..with a 3.5 inch ram air cobra r hood from supercoupeperformance.com..lol wanna buy the hood. __________________ 01 GT. 5spd , 03-04 cobra clutch, on its 2nd 4.6l motor2nd tr3650 too,JLT CAI,UPR o/r x, magnapack catback, predator tuned, H&R ss 10.5" bullitts w/ nt555r DR's

July 18th, 2011, 11:41 PM	#4
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.65 @ 115 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,743 iTrader: 10 reviews	Errr idk you could be running lean but youd need to datalogg it to find out __________________ 410rwhp 520rwtq @ 12.9 psi

July 19th, 2011, 12:38 AM	#5
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	I find this interesting , got links to the part....anything that makes these things faster is ftw lol. __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

July 19th, 2011, 12:16 PM	#6
OptionalStang Banned 1997 cougar 4.6 1/2PI TooFast4theFUZZ Join Date: May 2011 Location: se wi Posts: 991 iTrader: 1 reviews	i ran it more..and still no problems or any codes referring to being lean or anythign with teh intake...only codes are from o2 sensors..

July 19th, 2011, 12:26 PM	#7
OptionalStang Banned 1997 cougar 4.6 1/2PI TooFast4theFUZZ Join Date: May 2011 Location: se wi Posts: 991 iTrader: 1 reviews	its just a 80mm c&l mafs housing unit with a 19ln sample tube in it and a stock 1997 mustang mafs in it..it actually scares me when i gun it doing 30 now..the rpm's fly high then it kicks in gear the wheels give a very nice squak..haha and i picked the c&l part up for 40 bucks only and he threw in a never used plenum spacer.yesyesyes snakeoil, but i like how the intajke sits higher becuase i have a cowl hood and i can see down in there.plus it helps the angle for my coldair intake.. http://www.cnlperformance.com/80mm_96-01.html

July 22nd, 2011, 12:37 PM	#9
billx55 Newbie 96 gt Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: boston Posts: 47 iTrader: 0 reviews	the same setup on my 96 makes it run lean bank one and two. i have an sct tuner that i need to order a new tune for so i can put the c & L back in

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