Head sawp/ Lt headers

p4ndiamond · September 29th, 2011, 07:26 PM

Ok i've heard it being done but no one evver provides details. Is it practical that while the heads are off that i install the headers on it at that time then place the head and header in the car all together. i would assume the head should seat in place easily while doing the installation .

I plan to get the modular headshop heads with the worked vavle train and add some Hi Tech stage 2 cams to it.

Also had a question on adjustable crank gears. i've seen them around, are they a good way to degree the cam ?

projectGT · September 29th, 2011, 08:23 PM

Don't quote me but I believe you need to remove you exhaust manifold to replace your heads

sharkbait · September 29th, 2011, 08:40 PM

Iv head of people installing headers while doing heads before

MustGT98allday · September 29th, 2011, 10:21 PM

definitely do the headers while your doing the heads but im not sure how easy the long tubes are gonna be. but your gonna have everything taken apart already so youll already be ahead

p4ndiamond · September 29th, 2011, 10:57 PM

yeah i figure manuvering it in there at least will be easy to do. of course the H pipe will not be in there . exhaust shop is down the way abour .3 miles from my lot where i work on it at. he will resize the exhaust for 30 bucks ftw ! lol. I just was wondering if it would fit easy. i found a set that clears the trans and everything with no issues .

WickedSnake00 · September 30th, 2011, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by p4ndiamond

Also had a question on adjustable crank gears. i've seen them around, are they a good way to degree the cam ?

I used the TFS adjustable crank gears for a +8 deg advance. They were just about on the money as far as adjustment. You can go from -8 to +8 retard/advance with them in increments of 2 deg.

zinc-vert02 · September 30th, 2011, 09:38 AM

depends on the header, flowtechs have two primaries that go on each side of the sterring shaft so i think that would make it harder

Lugnuts · September 30th, 2011, 10:55 AM

A lot of LTs are 2 pc on the drivers side and you have to assemble the header around the steering shaft. It is a good time to do it but as far as putting them on the head and dropping them into place, it's not gonna happen. Easiest way is tedious to say the least - put the headers in the bay and then install the heads and torque down. You will now play contortionist using a fine mechanism shorty ratchet wrench and bolt up the headers. If you are going to do a lot of work on this car, you might want to go ahead and make some modifications to get to them easier. Look on the bright side - after it is done you will experience relief and be happy!

Speedstang302 · October 6th, 2011, 12:02 AM

Like stated before you CANNOT drop the passengers header down pasted the block with heads off from the top. And even drivers side is tricky. Sure as he'll no while already bolted to the cylinder head. Easiest way to do it with a stock k member is to jack the car up atleast 2ft. Support the car with jack stands under the sfc's or pinch welds. Then drop the k member down. This will expose the header location the most. Honestly my bbk LT's are 1 piece and slide right around the steering shaft without removal. But others have to be slightly messaged or shaft run through the middle of them.

Nick is a good guy give him a call and he'll give you some suggestions based on what your wants and needs are. He's been very helpful with my cam and heads situation.

Nick also sells the trickflow adj crank sprockets. They work fine and since they come 2pc you can degree each camshaft separately like previously stated upto 8 degrees in either direction. DO NOT do camshaft gears. Been hearing problem after problem about them. These will do everything you need them to do. Only problem is the rear crankshaft sprocket for the drivers side camshaft rides halfway off the keyway on the crankshaft snout and if the keyway breaks off due to stress....BOOM bye bye motor. So they recommend do all your degreeing. Then when your done and they are still on the crank snout. Drill a hole right through both sprockets. And get a locking pin, dowel, or something along those lines to tie the two together to take some of the stress of the rear sprockets keyway.

One last thing. If your gonna do LT's...buy some good header gaskets. And
Locking header bolts. So you don't have to go back in there after a week to retighten and with a stock k member that would be a bitch.

Rich2279 · October 31st, 2011, 07:34 PM

I have BBK LT's on my '96 that I want to remove and put on my '98. When removing them would I be able to get by with just jacking the motor up? I'll have the motor out of my '98 so installing them shouldn't be a problem.

September 29th, 2011, 07:26 PM	#1
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	Head sawp/ Lt headers Ok i've heard it being done but no one evver provides details. Is it practical that while the heads are off that i install the headers on it at that time then place the head and header in the car all together. i would assume the head should seat in place easily while doing the installation . I plan to get the modular headshop heads with the worked vavle train and add some Hi Tech stage 2 cams to it. Also had a question on adjustable crank gears. i've seen them around, are they a good way to degree the cam ? __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

September 29th, 2011, 08:40 PM	#3
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.65 @ 115 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,743 iTrader: 10 reviews	Iv head of people installing headers while doing heads before __________________ 410rwhp 520rwtq @ 12.9 psi

September 29th, 2011, 10:21 PM	#4
MustGT98allday Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,282 iTrader: 2 reviews	definitely do the headers while your doing the heads but im not sure how easy the long tubes are gonna be. but your gonna have everything taken apart already so youll already be ahead __________________ pi swapped and dropped sn95

September 29th, 2011, 10:57 PM	#5
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah i figure manuvering it in there at least will be easy to do. of course the H pipe will not be in there . exhaust shop is down the way abour .3 miles from my lot where i work on it at. he will resize the exhaust for 30 bucks ftw ! lol. I just was wondering if it would fit easy. i found a set that clears the trans and everything with no issues . __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

September 30th, 2011, 09:38 AM	#7
zinc-vert02 Bringing Yellow Back 2002 mustang gt 12.2 at 117 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 9,965 iTrader: 1 reviews	depends on the header, flowtechs have two primaries that go on each side of the sterring shaft so i think that would make it harder __________________ SOON TO BE 5.4 3V POWERD WITH A ROUSH CHARGER HELPING IT BAMA Performance Drag Team Member #4

September 29th, 2011, 08:23 PM	#2
projectGT Regular 1996 mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: vandenberg afb, ca Posts: 357 iTrader: 1 reviews	Don't quote me but I believe you need to remove you exhaust manifold to replace your heads

September 30th, 2011, 10:55 AM	#8
Lugnuts Newbie 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Evans, Ga Posts: 20 iTrader: 0 reviews	A lot of LTs are 2 pc on the drivers side and you have to assemble the header around the steering shaft. It is a good time to do it but as far as putting them on the head and dropping them into place, it's not gonna happen. Easiest way is tedious to say the least - put the headers in the bay and then install the heads and torque down. You will now play contortionist using a fine mechanism shorty ratchet wrench and bolt up the headers. If you are going to do a lot of work on this car, you might want to go ahead and make some modifications to get to them easier. Look on the bright side - after it is done you will experience relief and be happy!

October 6th, 2011, 12:02 AM	#9
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,830 iTrader: 1 reviews	Like stated before you CANNOT drop the passengers header down pasted the block with heads off from the top. And even drivers side is tricky. Sure as he'll no while already bolted to the cylinder head. Easiest way to do it with a stock k member is to jack the car up atleast 2ft. Support the car with jack stands under the sfc's or pinch welds. Then drop the k member down. This will expose the header location the most. Honestly my bbk LT's are 1 piece and slide right around the steering shaft without removal. But others have to be slightly messaged or shaft run through the middle of them. Nick is a good guy give him a call and he'll give you some suggestions based on what your wants and needs are. He's been very helpful with my cam and heads situation. Nick also sells the trickflow adj crank sprockets. They work fine and since they come 2pc you can degree each camshaft separately like previously stated upto 8 degrees in either direction. DO NOT do camshaft gears. Been hearing problem after problem about them. These will do everything you need them to do. Only problem is the rear crankshaft sprocket for the drivers side camshaft rides halfway off the keyway on the crankshaft snout and if the keyway breaks off due to stress....BOOM bye bye motor. So they recommend do all your degreeing. Then when your done and they are still on the crank snout. Drill a hole right through both sprockets. And get a locking pin, dowel, or something along those lines to tie the two together to take some of the stress of the rear sprockets keyway. One last thing. If your gonna do LT's...buy some good header gaskets. And Locking header bolts. So you don't have to go back in there after a week to retighten and with a stock k member that would be a bitch. __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

October 31st, 2011, 07:34 PM	#10
Rich2279 Regular '92 5.0 & '98 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 99 iTrader: 1 reviews	I have BBK LT's on my '96 that I want to remove and put on my '98. When removing them would I be able to get by with just jacking the motor up? I'll have the motor out of my '98 so installing them shouldn't be a problem. __________________ *'98 Mustang GT* *'92 Mustang LX 5.0L* *'11 Ford Focus SE* http://www.cardomain.com/ride/394916...ng-gt-coupe-2d Last edited by Rich2279; October 31st, 2011 at 07:56 PM.

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