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Old October 23rd, 2011, 10:45 AM   #1
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So its time for another mod that is not very expensive at the moment as in not engine swap or pi expensive. Will a good tune and turn off rear o2 sensors help some to wake up the car some? So far I have h pipe with flows, k&n, and a built trans with a luks pro gold clutch.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 02:39 PM   #2
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turning off the rear o2 sensors will do nothing for you. The tune might net you 3hp as well. Save the money till you have somethng to tune.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 08:39 PM   #3
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I have no cats, so it is throwing the code and running lean and they took off the rear o2s
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Just get some mil eliminators they are 50 bucks
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A) plug into what? There are no o2 wires or o2 sensors in the rear, hence they took them off.
B) why spend 50$ on something when you can spend a little more to turn them off and have tuning capabilitys at the same time for future mods?
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Old October 24th, 2011, 10:30 AM   #6
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There should still be o2 plugs in your harness, unless they butchered it. That wouldn't really make sense to cut the harness but I guess it's possible. The MIL eliminators would at least get rid of the CEL. I'm not familiar with turning them off, so I can't weigh-in on that.
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All I know is it needs to have something done to help it quit running rich.
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no rear o2 shouldnt effect anything performance wise..i have had mine off for over a year and the only codes i thow are in opt o2 sensors and front ones heated from no front cats..if its running lean id think you have a problem elsewhere..maby your front o2 sensors are goiing or ur starving for fuel..or even your mafs may be dirty..but the rear has nothing to do with it other than having a cel on ..
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no rear o2 shouldnt effect anything performance wise..i have had mine off for over a year and the only codes i thow are in opt o2 sensors and front ones heated from no front cats..if its running lean id think you have a problem elsewhere..maby your front o2 sensors are goiing or ur starving for fuel..or even your mafs may be dirty..but the rear has nothing to do with it other than having a cel on ..
Have you ran your car at the track?
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ya...whats that have to do with it? my car runs awsome and smooth..i was going to go tonite but it got rained out...
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I was goin to ask you what times you are running with your mod list. And how much the pi intake and pi cams help.
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How do you know its running rich
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Old October 27th, 2011, 05:31 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by FLEX4.6 View Post
So its time for another mod that is not very expensive at the moment as in not engine swap or pi expensive. Will a good tune and turn off rear o2 sensors help some to wake up the car some? So far I have h pipe with flows, k&n, and a built trans with a luks pro gold clutch.
I recently purchased a SCT tuner and downloaded the performance tune. I noticed instantly how my car idled, ran, and accelerated. If I had to start from stock with my car again, knowing what I know now - my first $ would have went to a SCT. Just my 2 cents.
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they are correct, an sct should be had when your further down the line and hav e more mods..look into a more uni tuner for now...i have an aswome one i can sell you for 200..it makes shifts fimer,changes shift points, has a premium oct tune,cooling fan setting,thermostat setting, eliminates rev and speed limiter and can clear and check cel codes...its worked awsome for me but i have to many mods thats i need to have dialed in..let me know if ud be interested...btw, it works for auto or manual 4.6L 96-02
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If you are running rich. first things first. Change supporting sensors. Cars old.

Change front O2's
Change TPS its worn out.
Change out wires plugs and make sure its gapped right.

If you have not done at least one of these since you purchased the car. "you're wrong" lol. I was gonna be at the meet n eat but i could not make it , no cash. i wanted to check the ride out for you and see what could be done to start. and don't worry chris beat me too lol.

And yea i would wait to tune. so far i have done supporting mods
PI cam
PI intake
70mm throttle body
O/R H pipe
cutouts (makes car slower but can be ricer)

I don't suggest PI heads, they just are not as good as NPI heads, this had been discussed allot. once you get over that it will be good. I also suggest drivers mod since you are manual, im sure you can get some speed from how you drive since you have not had the car too long.
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waitwaitwait, whats wrong with Pi heads...dont get me wrong they both have their advantages....but i think the only advantage to the npi heads would be all the extra space you have to port..now i heard npi ported outflow both pi and ported pi heads but i may have been missinformed so dont quote me..the biggest reason i like npi heads is for the npi svo supercharger...that thing is the shit and someday if i dont go 32v i will have it, someday..but for an easy bump in hp and torque a full Pi swap is easy to find, not to hard to install and you get great gains for the price you pay,plus while your at it your car gets all those seals new and other stuff..if i knew how and had the tools, id have dont the pi head swap long ago,then my typhoon would be mated correctly to the heads hehe, good ole RTV..
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Originally Posted by OptionalStang View Post
waitwaitwait, whats wrong with Pi heads...dont get me wrong they both have their advantages....but i think the only advantage to the npi heads would be all the extra space you have to port..now i heard npi ported outflow both pi and ported pi heads but i may have been missinformed so dont quote me..the biggest reason i like npi heads is for the npi svo supercharger...that thing is the shit and someday if i dont go 32v i will have it, someday..but for an easy bump in hp and torque a full Pi swap is easy to find, not to hard to install and you get great gains for the price you pay,plus while your at it your car gets all those seals new and other stuff..if i knew how and had the tools, id have dont the pi head swap long ago,then my typhoon would be mated correctly to the heads hehe, good ole RTV..
well besides the ones that throw out the freaking spark plugs and other little mishaps. they are only good for compression bump and nothing else. they are close to worthless vs a good set of NPI there is another reason but its late and i dont quite remember . but the head swap is not worth it. also dealing with less cam clearance and for what ? 10 hp .... forget that. Also after all that swapping you still end up changing again. cams and intake are gains in themself imo. i was going to do PI head swap 350 bucks for a pair then i realized i owuld just be throwing money away . think long term not short.

Some ppl make fun of my car for not being super fast. but its money reliability and time that factor. i couldn't care less from the milky galaxy. Gonna do the car right and embarras them all. And i have a fox body that would shut their mouth anyway

Sorry rant / long day lol.. but you get my point.
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to me.. my car has to be fast but yet be able to transport my kids and be a DD...so if a car cant do that,its not a car to me..its a toy.nothing wrong with that but im not a the toy type..trailer queens arnt for me..ille take my car to cali and back and id trust it every mile..
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ikr lol
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Plugs, wires, pulleys are new. He only beat me by a car length and I crapped up on my launch. So for being pretty much stock, im doin good.
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