[drakkhen20]

Ive tried googling this and didnt get any results. My question is is it possible to swap 05 brakes onto a 98 gt with out modifing or changing anything?even the rears?

[LilRoush]

There are dozens of cost effective brake upgrades for the '98 rather than wasting time and money modifying the S197 brake to fit.

[zigbigadoru]

get the cobra front brakes and youll have a ton of braking power and its pretty cost effective.

just to put it into perspective i was playing around with a s197 a few years back (2 of my friends were in the car with me so extra weight) and i had to brake quite suddenly with the s197 behind me. i have cobra brakes all around and the s197 almost rear ended me i was able to brake THAT hard.

[Jazzer The Cat]

drak.... a couple things to note here.....

1. The brakes are only as good as the tires you run. If one has lousy tires, one has lousy brakes
2. Your OEM brakes are just fine, they only need some upgrades. The very SAME ones you would need going S197's, Cobras or any other
3. Do you want to spend over $1K or about $350?

Believe it or not, the Cobra brakes will stop you NO BETTER than your current ones, with the upgrades listed in my Brakes Upgrade thread They will cool a bit better, but that is essentially it, say some other small benefits that are minor)

Jazzer says... stop the madness

[drakkhen20]

so if i just get some vented and slotted or one of the other and some good brake pads to match ill be good then is what your saying. because i dont like the brake fade on the stocks. i was running a road last year preety hard. 80+ mph and not below that, well when it came up to the stop sign and i just slighty pressed the brakes, my stocks faded right then and i didnt like that at all. my tires are good tires. i was running my buddies rx7 3 months ago down an onramp to the interstate and his ass end started to slip out and mine didnt which i caught up quick then in the turn, so id have to say those tires are preety good for what they are(nexus 3000s or whatever they are.)

[zigbigadoru]

jazzer you know that the 94-98 mustangs had single piston calipers right?

[Jazzer The Cat]

^ 2 are preferable, but that is OK

Don't bother with replacing your rotors at all, just the pads, fluid and SS lines at all four corners

Brake fade is the issue with OEM set-up on the pre-SN95 (not soo hip on the S197's, but sure they could use some help) Just follow the steps in my guide and you will be BLOWN away by not only the ease of faster stopping, but brake fade that is pushed WAY back from where it is now.

With this mod, you should not experience brake fade again on the street. If you do, your doing whatever your doing wrong!

Jazzer

[LoveStangs88]

I followed jazzers guide and couldnt be happier. Screw cobra brakes get some Powerslots, Hawk ceramics, SS lines and some 5.1 fluid. Thats what i went with and couldnt be happier. Now when that stupid old lady with the BMW in front of me SLAMS on her brakes i wont be freaking out wondering if im gonna stop or not. Now i just check my rearview wondering if il be the one getting hit. Oh ya get some dupli color paint and paint them calipers cuz a black car with slotted rotors and red calipers looks damn sexy i can stare at mine all day.

[Jazzer The Cat]

^ where's my kick-back, homie? Hook a kitty up wit some nip

[1996 GT]

^ I cant stand duplicolour, ive had nothing but bad luck with them. My personal favorite is VHT caliper paint.

[LoveStangs88]

is kick-back mean lol, and u dont want my nip it gives you red eyes and makes u hungry ...... buuuuuuut either way u for the guide n the help! now heres some nip anyways

And 96GT how did u have a bad exp. with duplicolor? i put on my caliper paint over a year ago and its been perfect ever since, just needs a quick wipe during the car wash to get the brake dust off and it looks like it was freshly painted 2 hours ago. Did you get the spraycan or the can of paint? cuz i got the can of paint and pulled out a paintbrush did 4 coats and still have over half a can left for the future

Edit: VHT is ok but i used a whole can on my exhaust midpipe which supposidly withstands up to 2000 degrees farenheit for headers and half of it still burnt away into dust i can only picture using this on some headers to be completly useless since it cant even stay on a midpipe. Either way i still bought a 2nd can for my midpipe cuz i didnt like the red and i made it grey now so well see if this coat doesnt get burnt away.

[Jazzer The Cat]

he he....

a "kick-back" isn't really the correct word, but is paying the owner of a job money for giving you that job. It is similar to payola in music radio.

no probs anyway... drak hooked me up

[1996 GT]

I helped a buddy paint his hood with it, the paint splattered every time you let off. (unless you hand painted it, have not done that before.)I've used the silver VHT stuff and did 3 coats on all my calipers, 4 coats on all my dads, 2 coats on my buddys and painted a few misc things. The can seems to be endless for me? It doesn't discolour either, there is one little spot near the center of the rotor but after 6 months of daily driving that was less then i expected.

[zigbigadoru]

im kind of skeptical about having a single piston caliper, where im sure that changing out the lines, pads, rotors, and fluid may make your brake fade better but im pretty sure that more pistons in the caliper will generally provide more braking force as more pistons are applying the force to the same surface area. (to a point that is....obviously it would be tire dependant at some point and there is diminishing returns and have a bajillion piston caliper is only going to be marginally better than a lets say 12 piston caliper)

[Jazzer The Cat]

^ Correct

If the CURRENT brakes are capable of locking up the wheels OR triggering ABS (don't think your years have ABS), the upgrade of brakes will not help you "stop" better They will help you stop with less pedal pressure and push heat-soak issues much farther away and create a more consistant pedal feel.

There is certainly no disadvantage to upgrading to a 2 or 4 or 6 or 8 pot caliper, but it is really not going to do a street car any real good. If you were to want to get into open-track and such, then you would need to get into ducting and different rotors to address the heat issues.

My upgrades are more than 95% of the pepes reading this post will EVER need!

Jazzer

[LoveStangs88]

Originally Posted by Jazzer The Cat ^ Correct If the CURRENT brakes are capable of locking up the wheels OR triggering ABS (don't think your years have ABS), the upgrade of brakes will not help you "stop" better They will help you stop with less pedal pressure and push heat-soak issues much farther away and create a more consistant pedal feel. There is certainly no disadvantage to upgrading to a 2 or 4 or 6 or 8 pot caliper, but it is really not going to do a street car any real good. If you were to want to get into open-track and such, then you would need to get into ducting and different rotors to address the heat issues. My upgrades are more than 95% of the pepes reading this post will EVER need! Jazzer

+1 but my car has ABS

[drakkhen20]

yeah well, i think i will follow his work provided. but im still going for slotted to through that heat off and for looks too. ive got a decent job now and barely any bills so my car is in need of some parts exchange and so im thinking some slots, ss brake lines and the fluid which is in dire need of changing anyway and some new shocks from kyb and a full urethane kit and im leaving her alone for awhile. cuz believe it or not a good suspinsion does come into play with braking. some camber plates and i be set til my later way future mods like tubular k-member and coil-overs, pi motor, possible kenne belle idea flying around in my head, and i thinks thats it. thanks for all your help and advice guys.

[1996 GT]

Just do a pi swap instead of a whole engine. You will get slightly more compression and save a lot of money.

[drakkhen20]

nah i rather get everything brand new, im picky and i feel that its easier to pull a whole engine rather deal with headchanging. the compression you gain isnt enough to convince me to deal with that. plus if you add it up youll spend in new parts ofcaorse youll spend about the same amount of money. sooo yeah.

[1996 GT]

Originally Posted by drakkhen20 nah i rather get everything brand new, im picky and i feel that its easier to pull a whole engine rather deal with headchanging. the compression you gain isnt enough to convince me to deal with that. plus if you add it up youll spend in new parts ofcaorse youll spend about the same amount of money. sooo yeah.

Ill have to completely disagree with you on that one man. I could of gotten pi heads, cams, intake manifold and a few other goodies for 350$. At the time i was a moron for passing it up, but i thought they way you did at that time.

If you do buy a new engine, keep your old one. If you dont you just ruined a numbers matching car, may not matter now, but if you hold on the car for a while it will.

That all imo though.