Tuners

jersey98gt · May 27th, 2007, 03:34 PM

My next mod i think after my x pipe gets installed will be a tuner, i have been looking at 2 right now Diablo Sport and the SCT xcal 2, has anyone used these two products and if so any feedback would be great thanks.

HMUSN · May 27th, 2007, 03:38 PM

they are both great tuners.

I suggest you find a shop around you first and see what software they use first.

jersey98gt · May 27th, 2007, 03:48 PM

yea i think crazy horse by me uses SCT, is there any disadvantages or advantages from them, or are they pretty much exactly the same just different software

GTsetGO · May 27th, 2007, 04:08 PM

I like the SCT Xcal2 better.

But it also depends upon what your tuner is used to using.

jersey98gt · May 28th, 2007, 09:00 AM

what does a shop usually charge to do a tune

HMUSN · May 28th, 2007, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by jersey98gt

what does a shop usually charge to do a tune

it depends on your mods.

a bolt on tune should be under $200.00

AnglicoGT98 · May 28th, 2007, 02:38 PM

I have the Diablo and love it. It also helps that Diablo Sport is about 30 mins away from my house. But none the less. It's a great tuner and have awesome customer support.

jersey98gt · May 28th, 2007, 04:07 PM

how hard could it be to tune yourself, i mean isnt this thing run off of usb, so theoretically could i run some sort of diagnostic send it to SCT or diablo sport and have them send me a tune over the internet? i have 3 mods CB X pipe and Intake, i think i could just tune myself? what do ou all think

HMUSN · May 28th, 2007, 04:17 PM

I wouldn't write a tune yourself if you don't know what your doing.

you can data log, then send it to a good tuner so he/she could write a tune for you and send it back to you over e-mail.

jersey98gt · May 28th, 2007, 04:22 PM

yea i would make sure A/F ratio is always at 14:1, what about this mod i hear about an EGR delete

HMUSN · May 28th, 2007, 04:24 PM

You will neither lose nor gain any power by deleting the EGR.

Th EGR function is turned off by the PCM at WOT anyway. By deleting the EGR all you are doing is making more room under the hood.

and the a/f should be at closer to 13.3 at WOT on a good tune man.

jersey98gt · May 28th, 2007, 04:53 PM

so i guess i should have someone tune for me then.

HMUSN · May 28th, 2007, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by jersey98gt

so i guess i should have someone tune for me then.

unless you want to blow up your car :wink

1998_svt_cobra · May 28th, 2007, 11:56 PM

I bought a Diablo tuner to take care of little things like turning of my O2 sensors and finding out what's up with my car when the check engine light lights up. And also, cuz a custom tune costs so much for a simple tune,(like HUMSN said around 200) I decided to get my own tuner. The cool thing was that the site I bought mine from gives a free custom tune to you for purchasing it from them, so I sort of got the best of both worlds.

jersey98gt · May 29th, 2007, 12:20 AM

wait a min, so your telling me i would have to buy the tuner for 379 and get the goddam thing tuned by someone who presses a few buttons for 200, where the logic in that

MustangMatt96GT · May 29th, 2007, 12:50 AM

www.bamachips.com! 400 bucks for as many new tunes as you need and that includes the handheld!

HMUSN · May 29th, 2007, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by jersey98gt

wait a min, so your telling me i would have to buy the tuner for 379 and get the goddam thing tuned by someone who presses a few buttons for 200, where the logic in that

no.. that's not true.

he is talking about a dyno tune.
that is different than a xcal canned tune or a xcal tune based off of datalogs.

the dyno tune is 200.

you know my prices for the tune based off your datalogs. already

AnglicoGT98 · May 29th, 2007, 11:32 AM

With a hadheld you can only access so much stuff. With a dyno tune, it's a dyno AND tune. Plus with the "end user" software they can adjust stuff and run it one the dyno and play with it to get you optimal HP. Also, handhelds are good thing to have for codes, turning sensors on/off, and little stuff like that.

With the EGR delete. And as HMUSN said...You won't gain or lose power. But it does keep carbon build up and exhaust fumes out of your intake side. It also neatens up your engine bay. EGR does exactly what it stands for...Exhaust Gas Recirculator. It's an emissions thing. I took mine off and it runs fine. Just don't forget to turn the sensors off (easy to do with a hand held tuner).

May 27th, 2007, 03:34 PM	#1
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661	Tuners My next mod i think after my x pipe gets installed will be a tuner, i have been looking at 2 right now Diablo Sport and the SCT xcal 2, has anyone used these two products and if so any feedback would be great thanks. __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

May 27th, 2007, 03:48 PM	#3
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661	yea i think crazy horse by me uses SCT, is there any disadvantages or advantages from them, or are they pretty much exactly the same just different software __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

May 27th, 2007, 04:08 PM	#4
GTsetGO SoMuchCoolerThanChiaGutt 2004 Mustang GT 12.88 @ 112 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 7,833	I like the SCT Xcal2 better. But it also depends upon what your tuner is used to using. __________________ Have a WHITE99 kind of day. Gun Fans Click Here A hard-on doesn't count as personal growth.

May 28th, 2007, 09:00 AM	#5
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661	what does a shop usually charge to do a tune __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

May 28th, 2007, 02:38 PM	#7
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630	I have the Diablo and love it. It also helps that Diablo Sport is about 30 mins away from my house. But none the less. It's a great tuner and have awesome customer support. __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

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May 27th, 2007, 03:38 PM	#2
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,307	they are both great tuners. I suggest you find a shop around you first and see what software they use first.

May 28th, 2007, 04:07 PM	#8
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661	how hard could it be to tune yourself, i mean isnt this thing run off of usb, so theoretically could i run some sort of diagnostic send it to SCT or diablo sport and have them send me a tune over the internet? i have 3 mods CB X pipe and Intake, i think i could just tune myself? what do ou all think __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

May 28th, 2007, 04:17 PM	#9
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,307	I wouldn't write a tune yourself if you don't know what your doing. you can data log, then send it to a good tuner so he/she could write a tune for you and send it back to you over e-mail.

May 28th, 2007, 04:22 PM	#10
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661	yea i would make sure A/F ratio is always at 14:1, what about this mod i hear about an EGR delete __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

May 28th, 2007, 04:24 PM	#11
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,307	You will neither lose nor gain any power by deleting the EGR. Th EGR function is turned off by the PCM at WOT anyway. By deleting the EGR all you are doing is making more room under the hood. and the a/f should be at closer to 13.3 at WOT on a good tune man.

May 28th, 2007, 04:53 PM	#12
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661	so i guess i should have someone tune for me then. __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

May 28th, 2007, 11:56 PM	#14
1998_svt_cobra Regular 1998 SVT Mustang Cobra Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus, NE Posts: 271	I bought a Diablo tuner to take care of little things like turning of my O2 sensors and finding out what's up with my car when the check engine light lights up. And also, cuz a custom tune costs so much for a simple tune,(like HUMSN said around 200) I decided to get my own tuner. The cool thing was that the site I bought mine from gives a free custom tune to you for purchasing it from them, so I sort of got the best of both worlds. __________________ 4.10s, K&N FIPK, C&L Power Pipe, XTD Stage 3 Clutch, Hooker Super Competition LT Headers & O/R X-Pipe, Magnaflow Cat-Back, Steeda Underdrive Pulleys, Cross Drilled & Slotted Rotors, Nitto 555s, Diablosport Tuner

May 29th, 2007, 12:20 AM	#15
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661	wait a min, so your telling me i would have to buy the tuner for 379 and get the goddam thing tuned by someone who presses a few buttons for 200, where the logic in that __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

May 29th, 2007, 12:50 AM	#16
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,609	www.bamachips.com! 400 bucks for as many new tunes as you need and that includes the handheld! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals. I support the MM Staff

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May 29th, 2007, 11:32 AM	#18
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630	With a hadheld you can only access so much stuff. With a dyno tune, it's a dyno AND tune. Plus with the "end user" software they can adjust stuff and run it one the dyno and play with it to get you optimal HP. Also, handhelds are good thing to have for codes, turning sensors on/off, and little stuff like that. With the EGR delete. And as HMUSN said...You won't gain or lose power. But it does keep carbon build up and exhaust fumes out of your intake side. It also neatens up your engine bay. EGR does exactly what it stands for...Exhaust Gas Recirculator. It's an emissions thing. I took mine off and it runs fine. Just don't forget to turn the sensors off (easy to do with a hand held tuner). __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html