[chiefsmustang20]

Originally Posted by JTs03v6 First thing someone does with a mustang before moving to the engine is swap gears. So if you have stock gears, my guess is the engine is stock as well.

Not everybody like myself I did that last lol

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[na svt]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter Yeah, I don't trust counting driveshaft rotations. Might work great for other people, but it's always off when I do it. That's why I go by rpm at speed.

You can't get the ratio wrong if you count correctly. How hard can it be? Count the driveshaft revolutions while turning the wheel one revoultion.

[Mikel89us]

Originally Posted by na svt You can't get the ratio wrong if you count correctly. How hard can it be? Count the driveshaft revolutions while turning the wheel one revoultion.

You can get it wrong. If its an open diff, ad you only spin oone wheel it will read wrong. If one wheel is stationary it will show 1/2 of what the actual ratio is.

[na svt]

I'm aware of that, but how many mustangs GTs have open differentials?

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by na svt You can't get the ratio wrong if you count correctly. How hard can it be? Count the driveshaft revolutions while turning the wheel one revoultion.

However easy it may be, it's still easier to just look at your tach when you're cruising on the highway, lol.

[na svt]

Originally Posted by BigSmith My Mustang Shouldnt be as fast as it is..

I think a better title for this tread would be,
"My friend's Talon should be faster than it is..."

[98Cobra_sleeper]

agreed. i had a 91 tsi with a small 16g, and on 15psi with a 12.0 a/f, that thing was wiiiicked.

[02gtKev]

Originally Posted by JTs03v6 First thing someone does with a mustang before moving to the engine is swap gears. So if you have stock gears, my guess is the engine is stock as well. What turbo is the talon running? If it' the stock t-25, then theres your answer. Tell him to swap on a 6262 and he will hang with 03/04 cobras.

My sr20det swapped 92' Sentra se-r, had a T25 and i was only pushing 9lbs of boost and i would easily beat stock to lightly bolted new edge gt's....

[OptionalStang]

pfft, talons...my bro had one witha 16G turbo and blablabla..my 4.6 cougar was almost stock at that time and id beat him off the line all day upto 100+ but if we did a jump and he was spooled up id lose but by only 1/2 car length..and if that tsi is awd he has to divide up that HP..i have surprised alot of cars with this lil ole 4.6

[1989Gt.]

If your friend thinks his talon is 350whp he needs to lay off the crack pipe. Stock turbo trim talons are not quick im sorry.

[p4ndiamond]

350rwhp ??? Tell him when he wakes up out his dream that i want a hit too

[mustang98ggt]

my one friend has a talon similar to these specs and i use to own a 2008 civic si stock and his and mine were close and he pulled more in 4th gear. It sounds to me that the talon even though high in the horse power probably lacks a lot of bottom end torque which where u with a v8 has a little more get up and go and usually the torque ranges from a v8 mustang are higher then horse power. I would have to say v8 beats 4 cylinders because they lack the torque that a v8 produces plus, turbos are well known for lag so if this talon so has 350hp he is probably running like shit because of not tuned tell your buddy to just sell it and buy a older 5.0 alot cheaper to build and will hold up a hell of a lot better.

Change your gears to 4.10s and you will probably walk all over him

[jstang98]

this an old thread but what the hell i cant tell from the pics but is the first intake runner (right behind the alternator) going to the driver side of the engine or passenger side if its driver then its a pi intake if its got that why not the whole swap explains why ur coil pack is sitting low that might explain some of that mysterious spunk

[jstang98]

man i dont know how to use this shit lol

[drakkhen20]

i think your all nuts. i think its a torque issue more than anything. my vert has 2.73s but the stock 4.6 has like close if not 300 ft.lb. and thats where you get your accel from. not hp. i crude anology would be if you had a motor with 500hp and 200 ft.lbs of torque you would take a while to accel but top end speed would be 200+mph giving wonderful conditions to power to weight and gearing and all that. my stock 4.6 auto vert will role up to about 135ish mph before the poor thing loses its breathe. but even with 2.73s in it, it will throw you in the seat given the right weather conditions and all. imports and all have decent hp but not alot have massive torque. thats why those big body chevys like your chevelles could move like they did was because they had a big torquey motor in them granted the hp they put out. bary the needle in both cars and hell beat you. but pulling through the gears from red light to red light or how ever you do it, youll take him every time. thats my opinion. i know people. theres alot of holes in it too. lol but consider the torque, its not always about hp...

[97S281]

135 is the rev limiter.

[mustang98ggt]

Originally Posted by drakkhen20 i think your all nuts. i think its a torque issue more than anything. my vert has 2.73s but the stock 4.6 has like close if not 300 ft.lb. and thats where you get your accel from. not hp. i crude anology would be if you had a motor with 500hp and 200 ft.lbs of torque you would take a while to accel but top end speed would be 200+mph giving wonderful conditions to power to weight and gearing and all that. my stock 4.6 auto vert will role up to about 135ish mph before the poor thing loses its breathe. but even with 2.73s in it, it will throw you in the seat given the right weather conditions and all. imports and all have decent hp but not alot have massive torque. thats why those big body chevys like your chevelles could move like they did was because they had a big torquey motor in them granted the hp they put out. bary the needle in both cars and hell beat you. but pulling through the gears from red light to red light or how ever you do it, youll take him every time. thats my opinion. i know people. theres alot of holes in it too. lol but consider the torque, its not always about hp...

I agree 100% the torque is where most races are one like is said this 4 popper that was mentioned does not have the torque ratio of a v8.