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okay now im mad...intake swap ?'s
So i did the swap and when i try turning it on it doesn't turn all the way and the temperature gauge shoots up without it actually being on. Help please
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I just did my swap and the first crank took awhile for the car to turn on. Did you reconnect all the gas lines on the fuel rails and connect everything correctly? Did you make sure all the electrical connections are good? Theres a few that are tricky like a little line that goes on top of the fuel rail bolt, also another skinny line with red wires connects to some other skinny weird line coming from the passenger firewall. If you did your swap like mine you might have forgotten to reconnect the crank sensor, i took that whole line of connections and took it all the way out to make room since i was replacing my Pulleys at the same time. Go to my "Questions for my project +pics" post for some reference pictures they might help you out. I put a ton of pics up alot of the engine bay so that might help you i dunno.
As for the temp guage shooting around that could be an air bubble inside the water pump, did you fill her up with water/coolant? if you didnt use coolant now would be a great time to do a coolant flush i did a flush on mine after the swap and couldnt be happier. I first tested the engine and filled up the reservoir with water then after everything was good i did the flush.
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So it finally turned on, but its spraying coolant out. I'm guessing I didn't put enough rtv. Any ideas? Also, it sounds like its not tighten up well but I torqued it to specs. When I squeeze the coolant hose that goes to the thermostat it makes a hissing sound by the passenger front area....
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that rtv area you put would have nothing to do with a leak that you are describing..sound like you have a junk gasket, craked intake or missed a bolt and didnt tighten it..
id find were that leak is coming from and see what exact is causing it..then go from there with it acting weird issues...just go over all wires and connections and make sure they are were they belong and not mixed up...
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mine sprayed coolant when i didnt rtv correctly..and remember the odd chugging i had when i didnt use the propper gaskets? use PI gaskets,break off the nipples on them and RTV those 2 front coolant ports..be generous with the rtv and lick to lube ur finger and push it onto the port in the block so it makes a good perma seal..
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It's a used dorman intake that I bought from a guy in this forum and I got new gaskets for it. I'm pretty sure I went over every bolt but ill look it over.
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i know this may sound like a dumb question but you didnt use normal oem style gaskets did you??? dorman intake uses its own type of gaskets that are integrated into the design
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Where is the coolant spraying out at? I dont get why squeezing the upper coolant hose would make a hissing noise near the passenger area since that hose runs from the Thermostat housing to the Radiator connection. Sounds like some gasket issues with possible rtv problems. Did you put the RTV in the boot area of the hole? Also i put some extra RTV on the heads surface pressed the gasket down onto the RTV then put a little bit more RTV on the top of the gasket and joined it with the RTV that goes down into the boot holes so it was one smooth wall of RTV going from the top of the gasket down into the holes.
Also there is a sequence that u have to tighten the intake manifold bolts and the torque recomendation is 15-22 ft. lbs. i think i tightened mine to 19 ft lbs. Also the sequence goes like this Back of car 8 7 3 4 1 2 5 6 9 10-11 (10-11 are the thermostat housing bolts) Front of car
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That's a legitimate question, but yes i did get dorman gaskets. Its spraying from the first cylinder from the passenger side looking at the car, It sprays inward
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2 things id say..1 is you didnt rtv that front port enough and 2 you may not have put the bolts in in propper sequecnce.
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I saw the sequence that lovestangs88 wrote but my chilton book said otherwise. I'm going to give that a try tonight
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i did it how love stang has it pictured.or atleast close to..
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you keep saying you used the dorman intake gasket..is it the dorman pi or npi intake gasket..and the dormen intakes are prone to cracking and not seating right...there junk...
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The gaskets are for pi, the intake has slots for the gaskets so you can't go wrong. I didn't know this about dorman, bummer.
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unfortunately my wife's old 98 gt had a dorman intake as a replacement after the stock one cracked. It cracked too.
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^ see i wasnt being a jerk about it..but they do suck there was a thread somewhere on here were some poor guy have them 3 shots at it and all 3 cracked, bought a pi online from someone that said it was oem and the kid didnt check..that one cracked too..i honestly wouldnt use that intake...
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i dont see you as being a jerk, only being honest which is extremly good instead of spending money on things that aint worth it. im going to give it one more try and reapply the rtv and if it persist then i will buy oem. i dont know if it matters, but my rtv is black..
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Black RTV might not be that good for this application, You need to use RED rtv altho black may work it is just alot better to spend 4$ and get red RTV.
Also my tightening sequence is strait out of the 1996 Mustang manual. Its the shop manual and is like 3 inches thick the size of a dictionary lol. But GL with the install hopefully u can get everything right this time.
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Also i dunno if your car was like mine but on the surface of my heads there was gashes on the heads surface where the old intake gaskets went, when i cleaned the surface i noticed the gashes were a few mm deep and didnt leave me with a smooth surface. So i went out and bought some metal filler and filled the gashes then sanded them untill it was a nice smooth surface u might have the same issue but more then likely not but its just another thing to think about and look for.
Also i would give my sequence from the shop manual a try since your first go around didnt come out so nice but its up to you iv never seen a chiltons so i cant say anything in comparisson.
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Thanks man and ill do it your way and with red rtv.
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