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Old November 24th, 2011, 02:01 PM   #1
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i was wanting to know what r some ways to lighten my heavy beast. also does anyone know how much the ac/rear seats/etc weigh? what is the dog bone located on the rear axle for... how much does it weigh and what r the disadvantages of removing it?
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So, first things first, WHERE you remove weight from is as, if not more, important than how much you remove. Rotating mass is better to remove than fixed mass, unsprung weight is better to remove than sprung (i.e. supported by the suspension) weight, weight up high is better to remove than weight down low, and weight at the ends is better to remove than weight in the middle. You also need to take the car's weight balance into consideration: a Mustang is a front heavy car, so you're better off taking weight off the nose than off the tail.

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The dog bone is there for harmonics reasons only. Scrap it.
A/C is about 35 lbs.
Rear seats really aren't that heavy, they're relatively low and in the middle of the car. Not a huge advantage to scrap 'em.
Front seats on the other hand *are* fairly heavy. You can save 30-40 lbs replacing them with lightweight racing seats.
Tubular suspension bits save weight. Going to a tubular K-member/A-arm/Coil-over setup can be worth 80 lbs off the front end. Tubular control arms out back will let you scrap the quad shocks.
Hood is already fiberglass, so not much weight to loose there unless you scrap the insulation.
Lightweight wheels are HUGE. Wheels are both rotating AND unsprung, making them some of the worst weight on the car. Saving 20 lbs off the wheels is probably worth pulling 100 lbs out of the pasenger compartment.
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There's a thread on here of all the weights for everything. I just can't find it but ill get for u
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Move your battery to the trunk, evens out the car a bit more without adding any weight.
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Originally Posted by 1996 GT View Post
Move your battery to the trunk, evens out the car a bit more without adding any weight.
Not entirely true - you're adding the weight of a battery box and the 0 gauge cable from the battery up to the engine bay

But, all pedantics aside, yes, trunk-mounting the battery is a good thing
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Okay you might add a few pounds. With something of so little weight you would notice zero difference aside from maybe slight more downforce.
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Originally Posted by ReverendDexter View Post
So, first things first, WHERE you remove weight from is as, if not more, important than how much you remove. Rotating mass is better to remove than fixed mass, unsprung weight is better to remove than sprung (i.e. supported by the suspension) weight, weight up high is better to remove than weight down low, and weight at the ends is better to remove than weight in the middle. You also need to take the car's weight balance into consideration: a Mustang is a front heavy car, so you're better off taking weight off the nose than off the tail.

So, that being said..

The dog bone is there for harmonics reasons only. Scrap it.
A/C is about 35 lbs.
Rear seats really aren't that heavy, they're relatively low and in the middle of the car. Not a huge advantage to scrap 'em.
Front seats on the other hand *are* fairly heavy. You can save 30-40 lbs replacing them with lightweight racing seats.
Tubular suspension bits save weight. Going to a tubular K-member/A-arm/Coil-over setup can be worth 80 lbs off the front end. Tubular control arms out back will let you scrap the quad shocks.
Hood is already fiberglass, so not much weight to loose there unless you scrap the insulation.
Lightweight wheels are HUGE. Wheels are both rotating AND unsprung, making them some of the worst weight on the car. Saving 20 lbs off the wheels is probably worth pulling 100 lbs out of the pasenger compartment.

what exactly do u mean by the dogbone is there for harmonics? exactly what is harmonics? and is 2 grand for a new k member and coil over setup really worth 80 lbs? i could turbo charge it for that much and not worry about losing 80 lbs.
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cut those heavy ass doors off lol. i wish there were aftermarket doors , those things are rediculouse. i have a set of them in my attic
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Most turbo kits u need tube k members tho
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Originally Posted by BAD98GT View Post
what exactly do u mean by the dogbone is there for harmonics? exactly what is harmonics?
Harmonics is the math surrounding the interaction of different frequencies. However, insofar as the mustang is concerned it just means that it reduces NVH. Without it you might get some more noise, or might feel a vibration that you didn't before.

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and is 2 grand for a new k member and coil over setup really worth 80 lbs? i could turbo charge it for that much and not worry about losing 80 lbs.
Well, you're not just losing 80 lbs, you're getting a host of other benefits, including more room for turbo piping. Whether that's worth $2k to you is completely subjective. Based on your response, I'm going to guess it's not.
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I have done door and rear speakers, headunit, sound deadening material, padding under carpet, gutted trunk, Rear Seat Delete, Aluminum driveshaft, dumps on exhaust and other misc things.

Future, lightweight battery again, maybe even aftermarket hood.
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Originally Posted by ReverendDexter View Post
Harmonics is the math surrounding the interaction of different frequencies. However, insofar as the mustang is concerned it just means that it reduces NVH. Without it you might get some more noise, or might feel a vibration that you didn't before.


Well, you're not just losing 80 lbs, you're getting a host of other benefits, including more room for turbo piping. Whether that's worth $2k to you is completely subjective. Based on your response, I'm going to guess it's not.
cool thanks for clearifing this to me.. reps to you
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all that sound deading shit under your carpet is good for 30-40lbs when all removed..think like that so it all still looks good..take all the shit out of the trunk..all the door and rear 1/4 insulation..i pulled random shit like that outta my car and 2 hours later i had my car almost 200lbs less..BUTT i did take most of the weight from the rear so i lost what bit of traction i had..and to tell you the truth,when i had all the seats out and every little thing i could easly get out like plastic trim and all, this baby felt wayy less heavy..felt like a stang and not a cougar when it came to weight..nice that stangs already have a fiberglass hood, i lost 80lbs switching to a fiberglass hood..and nothing less weight than some cheap 16in steelies..they weighed less than my buddies " light weight racing rims" both were for his stang..i still give him shit for that..
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that good info to know and my stang has a metal hood...the magnet will stick to it, in 99 they started using fiberglass hoods if not mistaken
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My hood on my vert stil
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So how do we take off weight on the verts
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Originally Posted by philly101 View Post
So how can I save weight on the vert
All the same ways you can on a coupe, you're just always at a ~200 lb disadvantage. That is, unless you're willing to make it a fair-weather only car and totally remove the top and all it's related bits, in which case you should come out a hair lighter than an equivalent hardtop.

I've been going back and forth on doing that to my 5.0. It's not like I ever drive it in the rain, anyway, lol.
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I lost 11 lbs in 2 weeks just by running two miles every day and drinking water/eating less fattening foods and moar chicken (not fried).

Might not be car weight, no, but it's still 11 lbs off my car when I'm driving lol.
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