2V vs. 3V vs 4V

tfofkyle · December 6th, 2011, 01:44 PM

just had to throw my 2 cents in: was told multiple times by my buddy with an 01 cobra that my old 96 gt with o/r h and flowmasters sounded better than his catted x, borla stinger setup. i had to agree, due to the fact that i like the "muscle car" tone more. his car did sound amazing too though. just not as classic rumbly as my 2v. ive heard 4v's with the same o/r h and flowmasters and its just not the same. im a firm believer that the 2v is one of the best sounding mustang motors - especially with an o/r h and flowmaster original 40's. can always tell a 2v from a block or two away.

3v's have the axleback muffler setup. kills the tone imho. and im sure the vct doesnt do much to help its exhaust tone either. still love the way some of them sound though - theyre just not as old school as id like.

4v's have a bit of a "trumpet" or "bubbly" noise at idle that im not such a huge fan of. and with the new ti-vct, honestly i believe the new coyote 5.0's are probably the least musclecar sounding of the whole bunch. sick motor - sounds nothing like an old 5.0 though. which brings my next point: nothing will match the sound of a classic 5.0 pushrod. my old f150 had one and i had more compliments on that truck from random strangers with stock everything and a flowmaster 40 catback than i did on my mustang. and i owned the mustang twice as long.

cliff notes:
2v tone sounds best to my ears
4v are "bubbly' but very loud
3v axleback mufflers and vct ruin exhaust tone
pushrod sounds the best of all

1996 GT · December 6th, 2011, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by LGHTNG02GT

thats because 9 times out of 10 (i WAS included in this myself when i was young) its IS a dumb kid who thinks straight pipes rule. look at all the threads in here about people asking about them. our cars DO NOT sound good without some kind of muffler. i had an SLP LM1 when i was young just to be loud. little did i know it sounded horrible. glad i out-grew that

there was also a 2v around my area a few years ago. it had MAC LT's, and the rest was bassani. very mean sounding car. it was wicked quick too, packing a 250hp shot of the go-juice
i cant bring myself to vote in this thread because i firmly believe they all CAN sound great, its just a matter of picking all the right parts to work with each other

Yeah i agree with that. Ill upload a sound clip when i finally upload the video. Ill take a video once the falcon comes out of storage, its by far the nicest sounding car ive ever heard. Super loppy and gurgly.

LGHTNG02GT · December 6th, 2011, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by tfofkyle

cliff notes:
2v tone sounds best to my ears
4v are "bubbly' but very loud
3v axleback mufflers and vct ruin exhaust tone
pushrod sounds the best of all

couldnt have said it better myself. its hard to beat a 5.0 pushrod motor with headers/off-road H and flowmasters IMO

mustang98ggt · December 6th, 2011, 10:23 PM

i totally agree 2 valve motors sound the best but lets face it who cares about the sound we want em to go fast so its more fit for function but my uncle stands by his 289 k motors he use to run in his mustang and lots of people around my town said it was a corvette killer so it dont matter bout the size boys its how there built. I wasted a lot of money on my old 3.9 windsor v6 and didn't even see 260hp outta it and if its one thing i learned about these mustang after owning three of them and driving many many more its not to go cheap with them build them right the first time so now if i go to good ole cj pony parts ill spend the extra and get a decent quality part but once again i agree with the 2v they sound good with the h pipe and flow master set up i love the dohc motors but the parts are seeming to turn out to be a lil more money and yea they have a stronger top end but they also cost almost twice as much as a gt with a 2v love em all though as long as its a pony car its a good car in my mind any year any model mustang fan in and out

98 gt sinister stang

mustang98ggt · December 8th, 2011, 02:22 AM

check out my 98 with catless h pipe and flow master 40s 2 1/2 inch tipes stainless its my favorite sound

mustang98ggt · December 8th, 2011, 02:29 AM

lol i have to add in the v6 sound clip to of my old car i honestly dont think it sounds bad but hey to each there own tell me what you think

1989Gt. · December 8th, 2011, 05:11 AM

[QUOTE=mustang98ggt;4127393]i totally agree 2 valve motors sound the best but lets face it who cares about the sound we want em to go fast so its more fit for function but my uncle stands by his 289 k motors he use to run in his mustang and lots of people around my town said it was a corvette killer so it dont matter bout the size boys its how there built. I wasted a lot of money on my old 3.9 windsor v6 and didn't even see 260hp outta it and if its one thing i learned about these mustang after owning three of them and driving many many more its not to go cheap with them build them right the first time so now if i go to good ole cj pony parts ill spend the extra and get a decent quality part but once again i agree with the 2v they sound good with the h pipe and flow master set up i love the dohc motors but the parts are seeming to turn out to be a lil more money and yea they have a stronger top end but they also cost almost twice as much as a gt with a 2v love em all though as long as its a pony car its a good car in my mind any year any model mustang fan in and out

Im sorry but i have to do this. MY EYES ARE BLEEDING!!!!!!!!!!!! Please use punctuation.

mustang98ggt · December 8th, 2011, 09:08 AM

hmmm sorry i didn't know we had a English professor in the forum today

na svt · December 8th, 2011, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by mustang98ggt

i totally agree 2 valve motors sound the best but lets face it who cares about the sound we want em to go fast so its more fit for function but my uncle stands by his 289 k motors he use to run in his mustang and lots of people around my town said it was a corvette killer so it dont matter bout the size boys its how there built. I wasted a lot of money on my old 3.9 windsor v6 and didn't even see 260hp outta it and if its one thing i learned about these mustang after owning three of them and driving many many more its not to go cheap with them build them right the first time so now if i go to good ole cj pony parts ill spend the extra and get a decent quality part but once again i agree with the 2v they sound good with the h pipe and flow master set up i love the dohc motors but the parts are seeming to turn out to be a lil more money and yea they have a stronger top end but they also cost almost twice as much as a gt with a 2v love em all though as long as its a pony car its a good car in my mind any year any model mustang fan in and out

98 gt sinister stang

Originally Posted by 1989Gt.

Im sorry but i have to do this. MY EYES ARE BLEEDING!!!!!!!!!!!! Please use punctuation.

I don't think Pensyltuckians use puncutation.

mustang98ggt · December 8th, 2011, 04:12 PM

ha im not canadian buddy and im a good ole boy so we dont really care about spelling to much lol all i gotta say is WHO DA FUCK CARES

Black2vConvertible · December 8th, 2011, 04:21 PM

I'd have to say 2 or 4 valve sound Waaaaaay better than the 3v's...

The difference from the 2valves IMO is they tend to have a little more of a higher pitched tone to them? if that makes sense... where as the 4v have more of a deeper sound and tone under W.O.T. of course the kind of exhaust you install will have ultimately the largest deciding factor in tone, burbliness and ect,... but truthfully as much as I love a 2v with an x pipe and chambered muffler.... I wish when I floored the pedal I heard a supercharged 4v respond lol.... Either way if my 2v's exhaust note regardless of power was the only exhaust note I would ever hear of any car for the rest of my life I wouldn't be pissed...

1989Gt. · December 8th, 2011, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by mustang98ggt

ha im not canadian buddy and im a good ole boy so we dont really care about spelling to much lol all i gotta say is WHO DA FUCK CARES

oh ok.

flowmann · December 9th, 2011, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by tfofkyle

just had to throw my 2 cents in: was told multiple times by my buddy with an 01 cobra that my old 96 gt with o/r h and flowmasters sounded better than his catted x, borla stinger setup. i had to agree, due to the fact that i like the "muscle car" tone more. his car did sound amazing too though. just not as classic rumbly as my 2v. ive heard 4v's with the same o/r h and flowmasters and its just not the same. im a firm believer that the 2v is one of the best sounding mustang motors - especially with an o/r h and flowmaster original 40's. can always tell a 2v from a block or two away.

3v's have the axleback muffler setup. kills the tone imho. and im sure the vct doesnt do much to help its exhaust tone either. still love the way some of them sound though - theyre just not as old school as id like.

4v's have a bit of a "trumpet" or "bubbly" noise at idle that im not such a huge fan of. and with the new ti-vct, honestly i believe the new coyote 5.0's are probably the least musclecar sounding of the whole bunch. sick motor - sounds nothing like an old 5.0 though. which brings my next point: nothing will match the sound of a classic 5.0 pushrod. my old f150 had one and i had more compliments on that truck from random strangers with stock everything and a flowmaster 40 catback than i did on my mustang. and i owned the mustang twice as long.

cliff notes:
2v tone sounds best to my ears
4v are "bubbly' but very loud
3v axleback mufflers and vct ruin exhaust tone
pushrod sounds the best of all

It’s hard to beat the sound of some 40-Series or Super 44s on a pushrod 5.0 engine. Newer engines are completely different architecture and are computer controlled which also changes the sound of the exhaust.

Even though we like the old pushrod engines, we still like the sound of the Axle-Backs on the new Mustangs. But we’re a little biased.

StreetLegalTV.com-2011 Mustang 5.0 Flowmaster Axle-Back Sound Compare - YouTube

Imran · December 9th, 2011, 01:18 AM

Some 3v's can sound really horrible with exhaust.

Imran · December 9th, 2011, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by mustang98ggt

lol i have to add in the v6 sound clip to of my old car i honestly dont think it sounds bad but hey to each there own tell me what you think

whoa there buddy that thing is clean!

mustang98ggt · December 9th, 2011, 09:41 AM

yea i loved this car but never got any respect for it being a v6 so it had to go paint and all work i done my self i like these bodies too i like all years of mustang really im not a picky guy as long as a horse is in the dash im good

1996 GT · December 9th, 2011, 11:36 AM

I'll be honest on that one, i love the sounds of the hushpowers, but american thunders are right behind it.

tfofkyle · December 9th, 2011, 03:20 PM

flowmann - ill have to admit I'm not a huge fan of the flowmaster hush power or american thunder classics on these new 5.0's. i know its mostly the new engine layout/position of the cats/rear mounted mufflers/ti-vct/etc. but the flowmaster "tone" thats so famous with the old school 2v's, 4v's and 5.0's just doesn't harmonize well with the exotic sound of the new coyotes.

that is one sweet stang though

View Poll Results: 2v vs. 3V vs. 4V Exhaust tone
2V 4.6L	10	26.32%
4V 4.6L	26	68.42%
3V 4.6L	2	5.26%
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December 8th, 2011, 05:11 AM	#47
1989Gt. Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,799 iTrader: 0 reviews	[QUOTE=mustang98ggt;4127393]i totally agree 2 valve motors sound the best but lets face it who cares about the sound we want em to go fast so its more fit for function but my uncle stands by his 289 k motors he use to run in his mustang and lots of people around my town said it was a corvette killer so it dont matter bout the size boys its how there built. I wasted a lot of money on my old 3.9 windsor v6 and didn't even see 260hp outta it and if its one thing i learned about these mustang after owning three of them and driving many many more its not to go cheap with them build them right the first time so now if i go to good ole cj pony parts ill spend the extra and get a decent quality part but once again i agree with the 2v they sound good with the h pipe and flow master set up i love the dohc motors but the parts are seeming to turn out to be a lil more money and yea they have a stronger top end but they also cost almost twice as much as a gt with a 2v love em all though as long as its a pony car its a good car in my mind any year any model mustang fan in and out Im sorry but i have to do this. MY EYES ARE BLEEDING!!!!!!!!!!!! Please use punctuation. __________________ MM FOBRA CLUB MEMBER #1

December 9th, 2011, 01:18 AM	#54
Imran :) 01 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,795 iTrader: 1 reviews	Some 3v's can sound really horrible with exhaust. __________________

December 6th, 2011, 01:44 PM	#41
tfofkyle Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,682 iTrader: 0 reviews	just had to throw my 2 cents in: was told multiple times by my buddy with an 01 cobra that my old 96 gt with o/r h and flowmasters sounded better than his catted x, borla stinger setup. i had to agree, due to the fact that i like the "muscle car" tone more. his car did sound amazing too though. just not as classic rumbly as my 2v. ive heard 4v's with the same o/r h and flowmasters and its just not the same. im a firm believer that the 2v is one of the best sounding mustang motors - especially with an o/r h and flowmaster original 40's. can always tell a 2v from a block or two away. 3v's have the axleback muffler setup. kills the tone imho. and im sure the vct doesnt do much to help its exhaust tone either. still love the way some of them sound though - theyre just not as old school as id like. 4v's have a bit of a "trumpet" or "bubbly" noise at idle that im not such a huge fan of. and with the new ti-vct, honestly i believe the new coyote 5.0's are probably the least musclecar sounding of the whole bunch. sick motor - sounds nothing like an old 5.0 though. which brings my next point: nothing will match the sound of a classic 5.0 pushrod. my old f150 had one and i had more compliments on that truck from random strangers with stock everything and a flowmaster 40 catback than i did on my mustang. and i owned the mustang twice as long. cliff notes: 2v tone sounds best to my ears 4v are "bubbly' but very loud 3v axleback mufflers and vct ruin exhaust tone pushrod sounds the best of all

December 6th, 2011, 10:23 PM	#44
mustang98ggt Regular 1998 mustang gt to be announced Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: halifax PA Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	i totally agree 2 valve motors sound the best but lets face it who cares about the sound we want em to go fast so its more fit for function but my uncle stands by his 289 k motors he use to run in his mustang and lots of people around my town said it was a corvette killer so it dont matter bout the size boys its how there built. I wasted a lot of money on my old 3.9 windsor v6 and didn't even see 260hp outta it and if its one thing i learned about these mustang after owning three of them and driving many many more its not to go cheap with them build them right the first time so now if i go to good ole cj pony parts ill spend the extra and get a decent quality part but once again i agree with the 2v they sound good with the h pipe and flow master set up i love the dohc motors but the parts are seeming to turn out to be a lil more money and yea they have a stronger top end but they also cost almost twice as much as a gt with a 2v love em all though as long as its a pony car its a good car in my mind any year any model mustang fan in and out 98 gt sinister stang

December 8th, 2011, 02:22 AM	#45
mustang98ggt Regular 1998 mustang gt to be announced Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: halifax PA Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	check out my 98 with catless h pipe and flow master 40s 2 1/2 inch tipes stainless its my favorite sound

December 8th, 2011, 02:29 AM	#46
mustang98ggt Regular 1998 mustang gt to be announced Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: halifax PA Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol i have to add in the v6 sound clip to of my old car i honestly dont think it sounds bad but hey to each there own tell me what you think

December 8th, 2011, 09:08 AM	#48
mustang98ggt Regular 1998 mustang gt to be announced Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: halifax PA Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	hmmm sorry i didn't know we had a English professor in the forum today

December 8th, 2011, 04:12 PM	#50
mustang98ggt Regular 1998 mustang gt to be announced Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: halifax PA Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	ha im not canadian buddy and im a good ole boy so we dont really care about spelling to much lol all i gotta say is WHO DA FUCK CARES

December 8th, 2011, 04:21 PM	#51
Black2vConvertible Regular 02' Mustang GT Conv. 5spd n/a Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 361 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'd have to say 2 or 4 valve sound Waaaaaay better than the 3v's... The difference from the 2valves IMO is they tend to have a little more of a higher pitched tone to them? if that makes sense... where as the 4v have more of a deeper sound and tone under W.O.T. of course the kind of exhaust you install will have ultimately the largest deciding factor in tone, burbliness and ect,... but truthfully as much as I love a 2v with an x pipe and chambered muffler.... I wish when I floored the pedal I heard a supercharged 4v respond lol.... Either way if my 2v's exhaust note regardless of power was the only exhaust note I would ever hear of any car for the rest of my life I wouldn't be pissed...

December 9th, 2011, 09:41 AM	#56
mustang98ggt Regular 1998 mustang gt to be announced Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: halifax PA Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea i loved this car but never got any respect for it being a v6 so it had to go paint and all work i done my self i like these bodies too i like all years of mustang really im not a picky guy as long as a horse is in the dash im good

December 9th, 2011, 11:36 AM	#57
1996 GT Traction...? 1996 GT/ 2008 GT Vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,207 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'll be honest on that one, i love the sounds of the hushpowers, but american thunders are right behind it.

December 9th, 2011, 03:20 PM	#58
tfofkyle Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,682 iTrader: 0 reviews	flowmann - ill have to admit I'm not a huge fan of the flowmaster hush power or american thunder classics on these new 5.0's. i know its mostly the new engine layout/position of the cats/rear mounted mufflers/ti-vct/etc. but the flowmaster "tone" thats so famous with the old school 2v's, 4v's and 5.0's just doesn't harmonize well with the exotic sound of the new coyotes. that is one sweet stang though

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