[bens98gt]

Are these sway bars worth getting? I can pick them up cheap and im wondering how much they will help and are they durable?

[Jazzer The Cat]

Understeer/oversteer..... of which do you posess and how much?

Jazzer

[97S281]

I have the rear sway bar and I got it after my stocker broke. I have had no problems with it and it has been on the car about 3 years now.

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by Jazzer The Cat Understeer/oversteer..... of which do you posess and how much?

This.

[Macunicorn]

They should only be used as a last resort in tuning ur suspension. Youll have plenty of other suspension to do before I would tackle sway bars.

[bens98gt]

not much understeer. but ive got springs shocks struts and cc plates and strut tower brace and a few other thing. i can get the sway bars for a steal thats y im thinking its a good idea. A buddy of mine got them with his car and he knows I road race and he said we can swap and just give him a few bucks for them. I just wondered how good they are at handling and if they reduce bodyroll.

[Jazzer The Cat]

If you don't need the bars, they are not a good deal, regardless of their cost

A bit of understeer is a good thing, but just my opinon and others certainly differ. Understeer is safer, because oversteer can be very difficult to control, if not impossible. A bit more rear bar, would help to reduce/elliminate your bit of understeer, so that might be some consideration.

How much heavier than your existing ones are these?

Jazzer

[Serlin]

Back before coil overs, PH bar, TQ arm, and all that good stuff, I had a big Steeda bar up front.

I did like it. I say go for it.

If the price is right, just grab it and give it a try. Thats the only way you'll know.

If you dont like it, sell it.

[Jazzer The Cat]

Generally speaking, I would aggree. But, if he already has understeer, a heavier front bar will only serve to increase it.

Ultimately.... trying it is the only way to be certain of the results

Jazzer

[MATT02GT]

I run their front and rear swaybars, and it was definatly an improvement over stock. I have no regrets with the purchase.

[bens98gt]

Im going to go ahead with it to test them out because the guy probly does not care if I trade them back. Heck its practically a free set. And I dont have much under/oversteer because i have alil body roll andyways. and on r comps Im thinkin the sway bars would help. Its worth a try.

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by Jazzer The Cat But, if he already has understeer, a heavier front bar will only serve to increase it.

With an ideal suspension, absolutely.

However, if he's lowered, he may be at the point where any suspension compression is causing postive camber gain, and if that's the case, going stiffer up front can negate that and keep the tires in a more ideal position, effectively increasing front grip (and decreasing understeer).

Now, that's not an ideal way to solve the issue, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper and easier to swap a swaybar than it is to relocate the inner A-arm pickup points.

Falls under the whole "Any suspension works great if you don't let it" theory.

[Macunicorn]

Originally Posted by Jazzer The Cat If you don't need the bars, they are not a good deal, regardless of their cost A bit of understeer is a good thing, but just my opinon and others certainly differ. Understeer is safer, because oversteer can be very difficult to control, if not impossible. A bit more rear bar, would help to reduce/elliminate your bit of understeer, so that might be some consideration. How much heavier than your existing ones are these? Jazzer

Couldnt he just increase rear spring rates to reduce or eliminate an understeer situation.
Over just using sway bars.

[Jazzer The Cat]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter With an ideal suspension, absolutely. However, if he's lowered, he may be at the point where any suspension compression is causing postive camber gain, and if that's the case, going stiffer up front can negate that and keep the tires in a more ideal position, effectively increasing front grip (and decreasing understeer). Now, that's not an ideal way to solve the issue, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper and easier to swap a swaybar than it is to relocate the inner A-arm pickup points. Falls under the whole "Any suspension works great if you don't let it" theory.

While true, I think if the OP is on the open-track, don't imagine his car will not see that positive camber gain anyway. Give it a try, as the best knowledge will be gained by bolting them up and running them Based on the tracks you run and how hard you push your car and in what conditions, they may be just the ticket.

Mac.... As TGR said "in an ideal suspension" yes.... rear springs can remove a sway bar from the equasion and render it not necessary. Will get pretty uncomfortable on the street in a hurry, as those springs need to be pretty darn firm for a good balance.

Jazzer

PS... Peep TGR rollin' 12K+ posts You've been hanging out with Zipster and taking his lead, huh