Help i need to beat an LT-Junk

stang340 · February 3rd, 2012, 03:17 PM

My buddy just got a 6spd LT-1 and he just barely pulls on me especially top end. I have a 98 gt with an H pipe, cat back, cold air, and performance clutch. What is the cheapest or easiest mod i can do to make sure i beat him. I was thinking about a pi swap but i wont have the money to get it tuned so not sure if thats worth doing. Anyone have any good ideas? Also i dont want to run nitrous.

98SilverStang · February 3rd, 2012, 03:25 PM

Gears

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furreal302 · February 3rd, 2012, 03:27 PM

email tune from americanmuscle.com runs less than $300

projectGT · February 3rd, 2012, 03:44 PM

Gears

BigSmith · February 3rd, 2012, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by stang340

My buddy just got a 6spd LT-1 and he just barely pulls on me especially top end. I have a 98 gt with an H pipe, cat back, cold air, and performance clutch. What is the cheapest or easiest mod i can do to make sure i beat him. I was thinking about a pi swap but i wont have the money to get it tuned so not sure if thats worth doing. Anyone have any good ideas? Also i dont want to run nitrous.

Gears!!

FLEX4.6 · February 3rd, 2012, 04:50 PM

You can run a pi swap untuned just fine. That is where you will gain the most hp for the best deal. And then save up for a tune. Then he wont stand a chance. Gears work nice also from what I have heard, but I personaly am going the pi route first. Plus you benefit from a new top end. And after all said and done, I only have 600$ in all the pi parts I need with the only thing used being the heads, but they have been machined and new valve job.

97S281 · February 3rd, 2012, 06:21 PM

I agree with the gears but you can do the pi swap instead if you want. Either one will definately help you out. Your stock gears are 3.08's so a good set of 3.73's or 4.10's will get you going better.

stang340 · February 3rd, 2012, 09:05 PM

I also drive it every day would 373 or 410's kill what little gas mileage i have

98SilverStang · February 3rd, 2012, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by stang340

I also drive it every day would 373 or 410's kill what little gas mileage i have

You may actually pick up a mpg or two in the city because it will take less to get you going.

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delgadog · February 5th, 2012, 09:38 AM

PI swap then a 100 shot! nitrous wont hurt the car if u have a good tune. and y stop at beating LT-1's. they are the turds in the GM family just like the NPIs are with mustangs. PI swap, nitrous, gears and a tune, plus the other supporting mods, u could make some damn good numbers and put a hurtin on other cars also! good luck!

1996 GT · February 5th, 2012, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by stang340

I also drive it every day would 373 or 410's kill what little gas mileage i have

Originally Posted by 98SilverStang

You may actually pick up a mpg or two in the city because it will take less to get you going.

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overall I do about 17.4mpg.

Highway only about 22.3.

About 14 for the city.

Thats all with 3.73's and a bit of fun driving.

p4ndiamond · February 6th, 2012, 02:49 AM

Haha i get 17 with 4.30's . i don't feel as bad now for going so low haha.

whiteout34 · February 6th, 2012, 02:48 PM

4.10s and a SCT tuner from AM with a 70 plus throttle body. (people dont understand how much tbs help

i race my friends with 3.73s bro and when i was stock with my 4.10s. i would beat them by at least 2 cars lenghts.

cruizer · February 6th, 2012, 04:17 PM

keep in mind that in our year mustangs a tuner won't fix the speedometer when you change out gears. You can go the cheap route and buy a new speedometer gear. I did at first...twice. They are cheap for a reason. Both times they lasted me probably around 500-800 miles before they got chewed up and they weren't even really accurate. I ended up buying a speedometer calibrator and it works awesome and perfectly. The ~$15-20 speedometer gears start adding up if you start tearing through them.

p4ndiamond · February 6th, 2012, 07:10 PM

I just went and got a dallas mustang speed cal to fix my speedometer. They aren't too pricy

cruizer · February 6th, 2012, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by p4ndiamond

I just went and got a dallas mustang speed cal to fix my speedometer. They aren't too pricy

Exactly what I am using. Works perfect

p4ndiamond · February 6th, 2012, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by cruizer

Exactly what I am using. Works perfect

Mine got a full set of cains HI-C in it. They had those darm over sized cups that dont fit in out cup holders. I raged then my car went nuts lol... O/D light speedo bouncing ect... nothing a little alcohol couldn't fix. now shes back to new.

sharkbait · February 7th, 2012, 12:57 AM

Nitrous

Go big or go home cupcake

p4ndiamond · February 7th, 2012, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by sharkbait

Nitrous

Go big or go home cupcake

You make so much torque lol.

stang340 · February 7th, 2012, 09:12 PM

I would do nitrous but Its my only car and I need it to last me atleast one more year. If I did go that route whats the highest shot i should push on a stock motor. Also I was thinking about headers and 373's do headers make much of a difference i already have an h pipe and cat back?

February 3rd, 2012, 03:17 PM	#1
stang340 Newbie 1998 Mustang Gt 14.92 @ 98 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 21 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Help i need to beat an LT-Junk My buddy just got a 6spd LT-1 and he just barely pulls on me especially top end. I have a 98 gt with an H pipe, cat back, cold air, and performance clutch. What is the cheapest or easiest mod i can do to make sure i beat him. I was thinking about a pi swap but i wont have the money to get it tuned so not sure if thats worth doing. Anyone have any good ideas? Also i dont want to run nitrous. __________________ 98 gt h pipe, flowmasters, cold air

February 3rd, 2012, 03:27 PM	#3
furreal302 Regular 94 GT 13.95@100 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NY Posts: 435 iTrader: 2 reviews	email tune from americanmuscle.com runs less than $300 __________________ 94 Opal Frost GT ~230k T5 swap, other mods

February 3rd, 2012, 06:21 PM	#7
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	I agree with the gears but you can do the pi swap instead if you want. Either one will definately help you out. Your stock gears are 3.08's so a good set of 3.73's or 4.10's will get you going better. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

February 3rd, 2012, 09:05 PM	#8
stang340 Newbie 1998 Mustang Gt 14.92 @ 98 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 21 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	I also drive it every day would 373 or 410's kill what little gas mileage i have __________________ 98 gt h pipe, flowmasters, cold air

February 5th, 2012, 09:38 AM	#10
delgadog Regular 1997 Mustang GT None yet... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 372 iTrader: 0 reviews	PI swap then a 100 shot! nitrous wont hurt the car if u have a good tune. and y stop at beating LT-1's. they are the turds in the GM family just like the NPIs are with mustangs. PI swap, nitrous, gears and a tune, plus the other supporting mods, u could make some damn good numbers and put a hurtin on other cars also! good luck! __________________ 95 GT - nothing stock on her R.I.P. 97 GT - New hotness: CAI, 70mm TB, TB Plennum, PI Intake comming soon: PI H/C, shorty headers, o/r x, lower car, sub frames, cc plates, torque box kit, rear U/L control arms, NO2 kit 100 shot.

February 3rd, 2012, 03:25 PM	#2
98SilverStang Regular 1998 mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Jensen beach Posts: 215 iTrader: 0 reviews	Gears Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app

February 3rd, 2012, 03:44 PM	#4
projectGT Regular 1996 mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: vandenberg afb, ca Posts: 357 iTrader: 1 reviews	Gears

February 3rd, 2012, 04:50 PM	#6
FLEX4.6 Regular 96 Mustang Gt Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: La Posts: 347 iTrader: 1 reviews	You can run a pi swap untuned just fine. That is where you will gain the most hp for the best deal. And then save up for a tune. Then he wont stand a chance. Gears work nice also from what I have heard, but I personaly am going the pi route first. Plus you benefit from a new top end. And after all said and done, I only have 600$ in all the pi parts I need with the only thing used being the heads, but they have been machined and new valve job.

February 6th, 2012, 02:49 AM	#12
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	Haha i get 17 with 4.30's . i don't feel as bad now for going so low haha. __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

February 6th, 2012, 02:48 PM	#13
whiteout34 Newbie 1998 gt Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Redding, California Posts: 45 iTrader: 0 reviews	4.10s and a SCT tuner from AM with a 70 plus throttle body. (people dont understand how much tbs help i race my friends with 3.73s bro and when i was stock with my 4.10s. i would beat them by at least 2 cars lenghts. __________________ vortech v1 strim intercooled with lots of goodies , 4.10s, built rear end, pi intake, 78mm bbk tb, SCT tuner, bassani with flowmaster 44, mega bite jr lca, J@M full length subframe connectors, tuned by AED. and more suspension mods

February 6th, 2012, 04:17 PM	#14
cruizer Regular 1998 Mustang GT 13.046@107.49 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lapeer and Detroit, Michigan Posts: 443 iTrader: 0 reviews	keep in mind that in our year mustangs a tuner won't fix the speedometer when you change out gears. You can go the cheap route and buy a new speedometer gear. I did at first...twice. They are cheap for a reason. Both times they lasted me probably around 500-800 miles before they got chewed up and they weren't even really accurate. I ended up buying a speedometer calibrator and it works awesome and perfectly. The ~$15-20 speedometer gears start adding up if you start tearing through them. __________________ 98 Mustang GT 13.795 @ 98.87 N/A Main mods: PI Swap, 3.73 gears, E85 My Mark VIII and T56 swap

February 6th, 2012, 07:10 PM	#15
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	I just went and got a dallas mustang speed cal to fix my speedometer. They aren't too pricy __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

February 7th, 2012, 12:57 AM	#18
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.65 @ 115 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,743 iTrader: 10 reviews	Nitrous Go big or go home cupcake __________________ 410rwhp 520rwtq @ 12.9 psi

February 7th, 2012, 09:12 PM	#20
stang340 Newbie 1998 Mustang Gt 14.92 @ 98 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 21 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would do nitrous but Its my only car and I need it to last me atleast one more year. If I did go that route whats the highest shot i should push on a stock motor. Also I was thinking about headers and 373's do headers make much of a difference i already have an h pipe and cat back? __________________ 98 gt h pipe, flowmasters, cold air

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