PI head swap

p4ndiamond · February 6th, 2012, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Kodysteeler43

before i get off here, when looking for cams and what not, should i look at the 99-04 cams or stay with 96-98? obviously the new edge intake mani and probably wont do heads. And you do recommend the valve springs and cam spring kit?

+reps for help!

You will want the NPI cam sets. 96-98.
If you go with a cam that needs springs i suggest these . Unless you plan on going with some crazy cams in that bad boy...or girl

haha
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WhiteNoise · February 6th, 2012, 11:54 PM

the $$ keeps adding up haha. So stage ii cams, intake mani, new valve springs and retainers? but the stock cam gears will work right?

If i go with the Comp Cams will i need new valve springs? Or is it one of those things where its better safe then sorry..

p4ndiamond · February 7th, 2012, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Kodysteeler43

the $$ keeps adding up haha. So stage ii cams, intake mani, new valve springs and retainers? but the stock cam gears will work right?

If i go with the Comp Cams will i need new valve springs? Or is it one of those things where its better safe then sorry..

Anything over stage 1 needs springs . Stock cam gears will work. but cams should be degreed.

You would then need adjustable cam gears or adjustable crank sprockets.
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They are so you can retard and advance the cam .

If you do hitech stage 2 cams then you only need the cams and these gears. Not even springs or retainers ect.

WhiteNoise · February 7th, 2012, 12:26 AM

and hitech means like the Comp Cams. So if i go with stock cams from 01+ ill need springs? Or stock ill need sprockets and Comp Cams ill need springs? I keep getting more and more confused

p4ndiamond · February 7th, 2012, 12:49 AM

Haha no. You can go with any cams. But i suggest the Hi Tech they make the most power . Comp is a company that makes many grinds of cams. When i say Hi Tech thats what i mean lol. You don't need springs with them . springs are recommended for the cam as they can make power over 6500.. i don't suggest running that high without aftermarket springs. But they are not required anyhow.

This
http://www.hitechmotorsport.com/perf...category_id=65

WhiteNoise · February 7th, 2012, 10:56 AM

Well i decided to go with stock cams because cams are out of my price range right now. But with the stock cams, will i need those adjustable cam gears? or should the stock just bolt right up?
Being that mines a 97, it should have the plastic crossover, so i can reuse it, correct? (My care is not with me, which would make alot of this easier!!)
And i've read alot about the 180 thermostat, should i get one? I can only find them for 5.0 and v6's.

http://www.americanmuscle.com/180-thermostat-7995.html

p4ndiamond · February 7th, 2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Kodysteeler43

Well i decided to go with stock cams because cams are out of my price range right now. But with the stock cams, will i need those adjustable cam gears? or should the stock just bolt right up?
Being that mines a 97, it should have the plastic crossover, so i can reuse it, correct? (My care is not with me, which would make alot of this easier!!)
And i've read alot about the 180 thermostat, should i get one? I can only find them for 5.0 and v6's.

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Ok thats understandable.
Don't use the plastic cross over its crap and cracks .
Honestly im on a 192 thermostat and it runs its best with it. The 180 is a prime choice but after much driving aand testing i got the best results out of the 192 stock thermostat . but a 180 is fine if where you are if overly hot.

WhiteNoise · February 7th, 2012, 11:36 AM

His intake should come with the aluminum cross over then? (03 GT) Will i need to drill it then?

p4ndiamond · February 7th, 2012, 11:39 AM

It should and you can. Drill and tap for the gauge cluster to operate.

February 6th, 2012, 11:54 PM	#42
WhiteNoise Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 reviews	the $$ keeps adding up haha. So stage ii cams, intake mani, new valve springs and retainers? but the stock cam gears will work right? If i go with the Comp Cams will i need new valve springs? Or is it one of those things where its better safe then sorry.. __________________ Mods: MAC o/r H, SCT tuner, CAI, short throw shifter, dash LED conversion Upcoming: Suspension build (Spring/Summer 2012) Last edited by WhiteNoise; February 6th, 2012 at 11:55 PM. Reason: new

February 7th, 2012, 12:26 AM	#44
WhiteNoise Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 reviews	and hitech means like the Comp Cams. So if i go with stock cams from 01+ ill need springs? Or stock ill need sprockets and Comp Cams ill need springs? I keep getting more and more confused __________________ Mods: MAC o/r H, SCT tuner, CAI, short throw shifter, dash LED conversion Upcoming: Suspension build (Spring/Summer 2012)

February 7th, 2012, 12:49 AM	#45
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	Haha no. You can go with any cams. But i suggest the Hi Tech they make the most power . Comp is a company that makes many grinds of cams. When i say Hi Tech thats what i mean lol. You don't need springs with them . springs are recommended for the cam as they can make power over 6500.. i don't suggest running that high without aftermarket springs. But they are not required anyhow. This http://www.hitechmotorsport.com/perf...category_id=65 __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

February 7th, 2012, 10:56 AM	#46
WhiteNoise Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well i decided to go with stock cams because cams are out of my price range right now. But with the stock cams, will i need those adjustable cam gears? or should the stock just bolt right up? Being that mines a 97, it should have the plastic crossover, so i can reuse it, correct? (My care is not with me, which would make alot of this easier!!) And i've read alot about the 180 thermostat, should i get one? I can only find them for 5.0 and v6's. http://www.americanmuscle.com/180-thermostat-7995.html __________________ Mods: MAC o/r H, SCT tuner, CAI, short throw shifter, dash LED conversion Upcoming: Suspension build (Spring/Summer 2012)

February 7th, 2012, 11:36 AM	#48
WhiteNoise Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 reviews	His intake should come with the aluminum cross over then? (03 GT) Will i need to drill it then? __________________ Mods: MAC o/r H, SCT tuner, CAI, short throw shifter, dash LED conversion Upcoming: Suspension build (Spring/Summer 2012)

February 7th, 2012, 11:39 AM	#49
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	It should and you can. Drill and tap for the gauge cluster to operate. __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

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