5.4 swap, need help please

spaceanimal · February 6th, 2012, 09:49 AM

Ok, this is a question for the guys who know info about the 5.4 swap. I really want to do the swap on my 96 gt. The two quetions i have are, 1. I know the intake clearance is a problem, but why cant we use the aftermarket intakes that edlebrock makes for the 2000 cobra r with the 5.4 in it. 2. What is the best solution for the exhaust as far as headers and x pipe go. Any info you guys can give me on the swap would be great and i would greatly appreciate it.

spaceanimal · February 6th, 2012, 10:55 AM

Ok, because i dont know i have another question, 1. Is the mark 8 motor a 4 valve and if so, which would be better, a mark 8 swap or a 5.4 swap. I want the most power out a swap and not sure which direction to head in. Any info would sure help. Thanks guys.

zigbigadoru · February 6th, 2012, 11:38 AM

im doing the 5.4 swap right now and i would personally go with a mark viii swap.

the mark viii is a 4 valve motor

the 2000 cobra r is a 4 valve mustang, the intake problem is because the v of the engine is longer/wider so you need a corresponding intake that fits. HPS sells an intake for the 2 valve motors that fits under the hood and is quite nice.

there is a company that makes long tube headers for the 5.4. i believe they are called FPS or TPS or something. go onto mustangboards.com and they will answer that for you. the answer to the exhaust problem (easiest at least) is to just have an exhaust shop lengthen your mid pipe to fit and done.

p4ndiamond · February 6th, 2012, 11:46 AM

sharkey knows allot about this. he did one. its awesome lol. Im working on a 5.4 DOHC swap now. going to be quite mean.

spaceanimal · February 6th, 2012, 12:01 PM

What cars can you get a dohc 5.4 out of?

RenegadeRukus · February 6th, 2012, 12:19 PM

00-04 Linconl Navigator
Mark VIII (not sure on year)
Cobra (really expencive and/or rare as hell)

Just look up 5.4L InTech as that's the ford 4v DOHC 5.4L engine

spaceanimal · February 6th, 2012, 12:39 PM

Ok, cool. So the next question is, if i can actually find a 5.4l 4 valve, what do i use for a an intake and what for headers, any suggetions?

RenegadeRukus · February 6th, 2012, 12:46 PM

I have been looking into it, MMR makes a pricey intake mani, but I'll probably need it for stock hood use. They also make a 5.4L cobra replica mani (iirc) for a little cheaper, but I think the fully custom is a better flow rate

Someone else may know more about headers as I'll be using the navi headers and cut them to fit when I start...

spaceanimal · February 6th, 2012, 12:59 PM

Ok, i guess this should ge a big question, will any of these motors run ok with my stock tuned 96 gt comp.

97S281 · February 6th, 2012, 02:03 PM

no, you are going to need a tune.

p4ndiamond · February 6th, 2012, 07:08 PM

Will need to be tuned.
May not clear the Brake booster set up.
Heads are very wide due to huge V block.
Intake will be badassed and stick out of the hood. I have two blocks. a 5.4 and 4.6 Teksid. I have a few navigators and Mark VIII in New Orleans. too many of them really at the u pull it haha.

RenegadeRukus · February 6th, 2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by p4ndiamond

Will need to be tuned.
May not clear the Brake booster set up.
Heads are very wide due to huge V block.
Intake will be badassed and stick out of the hood. I have two blocks. a 5.4 and 4.6 Teksid. I have a few navigators and Mark VIII in New Orleans. too many of them really at the u pull it haha.

hence why I like the s197 platform more and more... you can make it fit under a stock hood.

spaceanimal · February 6th, 2012, 07:18 PM

I wish i was a lil closer to new orleans id swing over and pick up an engine, lol, after everything i think i am going to go for the mark viii swap. Would like to find a cobra intake and tb to go on top of it though if anyone can help with that. Thanks for all the help guys.

p4ndiamond · February 6th, 2012, 09:31 PM

Most cobra stuff i found were like 4-5 intakes for sale on Corral and svt performance. And yeah New Orleans down here is a gold mine for the best of the engine swaps. PI heads go for 50 bucks. intakes 25 bucks cams 25 bucks...... soooo many deals...

RenegadeRukus · February 6th, 2012, 09:46 PM

wish i were closer!

p4ndiamond · February 6th, 2012, 10:06 PM

Ikr There always at least 20 different PI cars in the lot and all cars are up on stands and the ground is gravel its clean and organized by section.. i should make a mustang part business out of it haha.

1989Gt. · February 7th, 2012, 09:37 PM

I did thw mark swap and it was pretty easy. Look for a 97-98 its pretty much direct swap. Or you can get the engine from all mark 8 93-98

00MustangGtPremium · February 7th, 2012, 10:54 PM

You can put the stock 2v 4.6 intake or an aftermarket intake on a 5.4 2v. You need adaptor plates. It might hold you back though.

spaceanimal · February 8th, 2012, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by 1989Gt.

I did thw mark swap and it was pretty easy. Look for a 97-98 its pretty much direct swap. Or you can get the engine from all mark 8 93-98

Did you feel a whole lot of power gain by doing the mark 8 swap

p4ndiamond · February 8th, 2012, 04:18 PM

Its night and day o_o

February 6th, 2012, 09:49 AM	#1
spaceanimal Regular 96 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: manlius, n.y. Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 reviews	5.4 swap, need help please Ok, this is a question for the guys who know info about the 5.4 swap. I really want to do the swap on my 96 gt. The two quetions i have are, 1. I know the intake clearance is a problem, but why cant we use the aftermarket intakes that edlebrock makes for the 2000 cobra r with the 5.4 in it. 2. What is the best solution for the exhaust as far as headers and x pipe go. Any info you guys can give me on the swap would be great and i would greatly appreciate it.

February 6th, 2012, 11:46 AM	#4
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	sharkey knows allot about this. he did one. its awesome lol. Im working on a 5.4 DOHC swap now. going to be quite mean. __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

February 6th, 2012, 12:19 PM	#6
RenegadeRukus Official Thread Killer 2006 Mustang 00.00@000.00 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,838 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 0 reviews	00-04 Linconl Navigator Mark VIII (not sure on year) Cobra (really expencive and/or rare as hell) Just look up 5.4L InTech as that's the ford 4v DOHC 5.4L engine __________________

February 6th, 2012, 12:46 PM	#8
RenegadeRukus Official Thread Killer 2006 Mustang 00.00@000.00 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,838 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have been looking into it, MMR makes a pricey intake mani, but I'll probably need it for stock hood use. They also make a 5.4L cobra replica mani (iirc) for a little cheaper, but I think the fully custom is a better flow rate Someone else may know more about headers as I'll be using the navi headers and cut them to fit when I start... __________________

February 6th, 2012, 02:03 PM	#10
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	no, you are going to need a tune. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

February 6th, 2012, 10:55 AM	#2
spaceanimal Regular 96 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: manlius, n.y. Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok, because i dont know i have another question, 1. Is the mark 8 motor a 4 valve and if so, which would be better, a mark 8 swap or a 5.4 swap. I want the most power out a swap and not sure which direction to head in. Any info would sure help. Thanks guys.

February 6th, 2012, 12:01 PM	#5
spaceanimal Regular 96 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: manlius, n.y. Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 reviews	What cars can you get a dohc 5.4 out of?

February 6th, 2012, 12:39 PM	#7
spaceanimal Regular 96 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: manlius, n.y. Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok, cool. So the next question is, if i can actually find a 5.4l 4 valve, what do i use for a an intake and what for headers, any suggetions?

February 6th, 2012, 12:59 PM	#9
spaceanimal Regular 96 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: manlius, n.y. Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok, i guess this should ge a big question, will any of these motors run ok with my stock tuned 96 gt comp.

February 6th, 2012, 07:08 PM	#11
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	Will need to be tuned. May not clear the Brake booster set up. Heads are very wide due to huge V block. Intake will be badassed and stick out of the hood. I have two blocks. a 5.4 and 4.6 Teksid. I have a few navigators and Mark VIII in New Orleans. too many of them really at the u pull it haha. __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

February 6th, 2012, 07:18 PM	#13
spaceanimal Regular 96 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: manlius, n.y. Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 reviews	I wish i was a lil closer to new orleans id swing over and pick up an engine, lol, after everything i think i am going to go for the mark viii swap. Would like to find a cobra intake and tb to go on top of it though if anyone can help with that. Thanks for all the help guys.

February 6th, 2012, 09:31 PM	#14
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	Most cobra stuff i found were like 4-5 intakes for sale on Corral and svt performance. And yeah New Orleans down here is a gold mine for the best of the engine swaps. PI heads go for 50 bucks. intakes 25 bucks cams 25 bucks...... soooo many deals... __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

February 6th, 2012, 09:46 PM	#15
RenegadeRukus Official Thread Killer 2006 Mustang 00.00@000.00 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,838 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 0 reviews	wish i were closer! __________________

February 6th, 2012, 10:06 PM	#16
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ikr There always at least 20 different PI cars in the lot and all cars are up on stands and the ground is gravel its clean and organized by section.. i should make a mustang part business out of it haha. __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

February 7th, 2012, 09:37 PM	#17
1989Gt. Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,799 iTrader: 0 reviews	I did thw mark swap and it was pretty easy. Look for a 97-98 its pretty much direct swap. Or you can get the engine from all mark 8 93-98 __________________ MM FOBRA CLUB MEMBER #1

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February 7th, 2012, 10:54 PM	#18
00MustangGtPremium Regular 2000 Mustang Gt no clue Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 349 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	You can put the stock 2v 4.6 intake or an aftermarket intake on a 5.4 2v. You need adaptor plates. It might hold you back though. __________________ Just because your cars loud doesnt mean its fast

February 8th, 2012, 04:18 PM	#20
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,216 iTrader: 0 reviews	Its night and day o_o __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

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