PI swap?? - Page 2

July 20th, 2007, 12:46 AM	#21
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630	Yeah that's what I've heard. I can't believe it's taken me this long to do it. Just haven't had the time. But I think Matt and I should race to see who can get to 300 faster...lol. Granted, my stuff won't even get started on for another 2 months but I think it will add a new highlight to the forrum. __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

July 20th, 2007, 12:54 AM	#22
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,483	Yeah man that would be funny! lol Well I have lots of saving I need to do before I can get it set up to where I would like, porting and polishing, cams, valve springs, valves, dyno tune, long tube headers, etc. I probably wont be doing the complete install of all this stuff until I have it all ready and paid off and being 16 that sure is going to take me a while! lol __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

July 20th, 2007, 02:07 AM

#23

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Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

I cant wait! I am going to try for 300 at the rear wheels! I am getting head work done, getting some aggressive cams, Long tube headers and few other things!

Fryrice, it has 123K on it but no ticking at all. I am also wondering if the lifters and cam followers will be alright!

Ha ,aim high man thats the spirit,lol. What other mods do you have ?

I would replace the lifters .Mine didnt tick either ,but if your gonna step up to a more aggressive cam ,its a good idea .they go for about $100-110. I replaced mine cuz of the cams I got.

I would say that the followers are PROBABLY ok ,but if you got the money then replace them. An easy inspection will tell you.

What cams do you want ? For being such a young guy,you sound like you've done your homework. Just so you know, I did no headwork and you see my numbers.

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July 20th, 2007, 02:19 AM	#24
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,483	Well I was recommended this company by the guy I am going to have port my heads and really like the cams. https://www.hitechmotorsport.com/sto...ducts_id=43790 I will probably do the lifters right now at this point, and leave out the followers and my manley valves! but would you suggest new chains and tensiors? __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

July 20th, 2007, 03:11 AM	#25
Fryrice Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,034	With 123k ,I would say replace as much as you can ,especially if your stepping up the power. Its hard to tell until you get everything off .The tensioners may be holding fine now,but once you remove them they will no longer have any oil pressure. So after they are compressed so they can be reinstalled with the cams ,they may not spring the same way they did with the oil pressure. You can inspect the chains visually . They are pretty strong actually . Are you doing the work yourself ? __________________ Fryrice has left the building.

July 20th, 2007, 04:28 AM	#26
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630	Damn bro I didn't know you were that young. That's awesome. I wish I could have known this much about cars 4 or 5 years ago. You have alot of knowledge. Anyways, with 123k I would replace as much as I could. I only have 72k and whatever I can replace while I'm doing the swap I'm going to, to avoid having to repeat the process because I was too lazy. __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

July 20th, 2007, 01:22 PM	#27
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,483	Yeah I will be doing all the work myself. I cant wait! the only part that I am worried about is screwing up the timing with the chains/all of that. And Anglico thanks for the complement. But you see I have nobody around here with the knowlegde I have thats near my age so its kinda annoying to my parents. And then again I do nothing but think and breath and sleep about these cars! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

July 20th, 2007, 01:40 PM	#28
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630	The timing chains are easy. Just match up the dot with the different color link and ake sure the cam gear is on right and you're good to go. And that's good you're devoted, it will def. pay off later in life if you pursue it. __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

July 20th, 2007, 01:43 PM	#29
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,483	Yeah I do want to become an mechanical engineer for some type of auto bussiness. I am sure once I have the motor apart it will be pretty easy, but with out seeing it I kinda am leary. But there is no better way to learn about a motor than to tear it apart. Hell if I could take the money that I have saved for all my life I would and I would have a forged bottom end kit going it at the same time! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

July 22nd, 2007, 01:10 PM	#30
sanitarium16 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4	I can not imagine how i drove my car before the PI Swap, it makes a huge difference. The only thing that is bad about it is that it raises your compression a lot so you can not add a blower if you have future plans, unless you build up the bottom end

July 22nd, 2007, 02:43 PM	#31
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,483	Well you definatly can run a blower, but you just have to keep it in low boost, or run really high octane gas, or meth injection to make sure that detionation doesnt happen! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

July 22nd, 2007, 03:30 PM	#32
sanitarium16 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4	true, but more boost=more power and with gas prices already ridiculous who wants to keep filling up on race gas!?

July 22nd, 2007, 05:18 PM

#33

Fryrice

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Originally Posted by sanitarium16

The only thing that is bad about it is that it raises your compression a lot so you can not add a blower if you have future plans, unless you build up the bottom end

You can run a S/C. And you dont need race gas
The factory bottom can handle moderate boost no problem as long as you don't constantly spin it through the roof everyday.

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July 22nd, 2007, 05:30 PM	#34
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,483	yeah but if you use a higher octane gas, you can pull more timing, or bump it (I cant remeber) you will make more power safely! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

July 22nd, 2007, 07:31 PM	#35
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630	Every PI post eventually leads to this topic...lol...but I think everyone can agree that YES you can have FI on a NPI to PI swap, but how much boost and what kind of fuel is up to how the person wants to treat their care, if it's their DD, and so on and so forth...It just depends on what your final agenda is and what you want out of the car. Someone posted a topic in here about NPI heads on a PI block so the C/R went WAY down...I think everyone was estimating 8-ish. I am actually going to explore that soon because I am eventually adding a turbo to the 'stang and if I can run a crazy amount of boost and still keep the car drivable that'd be sweet. But besides that, I personally WOULD add a turbo to my car after the PI swap. Low boost plus preiously great N/A HP still equals more HP and alot of fun. __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

July 22nd, 2007, 07:36 PM	#36
Fryrice Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,034	I dont see the point of putting NPI heads on a PI block just to lower C/R. No matter what ,you can only put so much stress on a stock block . And your not gonna add enough boost to affect C/R anyways. __________________ Fryrice has left the building.

July 22nd, 2007, 07:41 PM	#37
sanitarium16 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4	Eventually i think im going to put the FRPP Roots blower at 6psi on the car. They had this combo in the MM+FF Magazine and it puts down 400HP. Not to shabby.

July 22nd, 2007, 07:42 PM	#38
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630	Well....I think running 30psi would raise the C/R enough to want to start off with a lower ratio....But like I said...it's just to see what would happen. Pure fun. __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

July 22nd, 2007, 07:57 PM

#39

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Originally Posted by AnglicoGT98

Well....I think running 30psi would raise the C/R enough to want to start off with a lower ratio....But like I said...it's just to see what would happen. Pure fun.

Who the hell is runnin 30PSI on a stock block ? No need to wait and see what will happen,I can tell you what will happen ,lol.

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July 22nd, 2007, 08:17 PM	#40
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630	lol...All I was saying was, that it would be easier to run more boost with a lower starting C/R....forgot that I typed a stock block earlier so disregard the 30 psi...but none the less, you could still run more boost... __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

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