to stroke or not to stroke

Rantheman · July 4th, 2006, 03:44 PM

Alright so my motor is giving me enough trouble now that i think i am going to tare back into it but if i do that i am going to do it right first off i will deffinetly change pistons so I am not running 10.2 compression i want to get down to 9.1 then i will deffinetly port and polish my heads but i am debating on stroking it because i think i will run a blower with the compression i am going to have but i really want more cubic inches what you all think

ChrisJ · July 4th, 2006, 04:12 PM

Im a big fan of the 331...It does not have the oiling prblems like the 347 does...

stangliter04 · July 4th, 2006, 05:07 PM

I say go with a power adder, lower the compression... Chris I am also a big fan of the 331 but he is working with the 4.6

Casper98GT · July 4th, 2006, 05:19 PM

YEah, 331/347 not applicable for this car. Unless we dont know he has a 302. So guessing you have a 4.6. I say stroke it. AND forced induction. If you have the money, build it right. Be happy with it.

What are you running now? Im guessing PI swap if youre runing such high compression.

Rantheman · July 4th, 2006, 05:46 PM

yep you guessed it p.i. head swap and more with a new motor with only 2,000 miles on it but every noise i keep fixing a new one arrives well i think stroking it would be sweet i have seen a 4.6l cobra motor that is stroked to a 320 somthing i wish i could stroke that far it seems like i can only go up to a 302

Casper98GT · July 4th, 2006, 05:50 PM

Yeah, PI swap does suck because of the high compression. Most people now go with a PI motor. And then boost it. I know people who stroke and usually come out with 5.1 liters. Why are you having so many problems with a PI swap ??? What kinda noises are comming out of it?

ChrisJ · July 4th, 2006, 06:03 PM

OOpps I guess that is what I get for multi-tasking; I glanced at his sig and thought it said 95...

I had 331 on the brain becuase I currently working on a build for a friend...

With the 4.6 I have heard great things about people stroking to a 302...Then go forced induction...

Drgnracin72 · July 4th, 2006, 06:23 PM

stroke that bitch. the people who are getting the 320 are also doing a big bore but you hae to have an aluminum block to do that big of a bore on it.

Rantheman · July 4th, 2006, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Casper98GT

Yeah, PI swap does suck because of the high compression. Most people now go with a PI motor. And then boost it. I know people who stroke and usually come out with 5.1 liters. Why are you having so many problems with a PI swap ??? What kinda noises are comming out of it?

it not having a problem with the sawp i am having problems with i thinki it eaither the timing componements i just replaced the it the rods and pistons making a nocking noise

Rantheman · July 4th, 2006, 06:44 PM

boy if i do this i think i will keep it N/A for a while i don't think my tans could handle that kid of power with a blower

Casper98GT · July 4th, 2006, 06:52 PM

Yeah , the trans are junk. Im suprised i havent gotten syncro noise yet, i beat the crap out of my trans. Keep it N/A for a while and get used to the power and you might find you wouldnt even need any kinda F/I for a while. Depends on youre need for power.

Rantheman · July 4th, 2006, 06:57 PM

my need of power is almost endless but yeah i will keep in n/a untill wither i get a t56 or some trans to handle the power i still got my chevelle to worry about

ChrisJ · July 4th, 2006, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Rantheman

my need of power is almost endless but yeah i will keep in n/a untill wither i get a t56 or some trans to handle the power i still got my chevelle to worry about

I have heard a few bad stories about the T-56 when it is transplanted in the 2V but then again I have heard a few good ones too...TKO600 would prolly work better for ya though...But that is just my opinion...

Casper98GT · July 4th, 2006, 07:14 PM

What have you "heard" bad about a t56 in a 2v?

ChrisJ · July 4th, 2006, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Casper98GT

What have you "heard" bad about a t56 in a 2v?

Just mainly with 3rd and 4th gears going out...Now given this is under heavy load...

Also a few guys running KB's have had some problems with the tranny not performing that well...

Mainly I guess it is all preference...I love the TKO600 and the T56 I am sure is a great tranny but for my money I would go for the TKO600...

White99stang · July 4th, 2006, 10:26 PM

well i am the guy to talk to about stroking the motor, why cause i have a 302 stroker. Well if you are going to go forced induction then i say go for it cause after that you will get that mid range tq that will help. If staying N/A then i say don't cause you will loose a little hp but gain tq. I have about 30 more tq than most n/a cars but not as much hp. The stroker needs alot of air to make power. i plan on going twin turbos so with the stroker i will make alot more power than a stock stroke motor.

Casper98GT · July 4th, 2006, 10:42 PM

Chris youre saying a T56 which is in the Cobra has problems with a 2v's power!! Of course a TKO is better than a factory tremec.

White.... thanks for posting the info. I didnt relalize that you dont make much more power from a stroker. But then again, when you think about the motor already having a nice stroke to it, it tends to make sence.

ChrisJ · July 4th, 2006, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Casper98GT

Chris youre saying a T56 which is in the Cobra has problems with a 2v's power!! Of course a TKO is better than a factory tremec.

White.... thanks for posting the info. I didnt relalize that you dont make much more power from a stroker. But then again, when you think about the motor already having a nice stroke to it, it tends to make sence.

Im just saying from what I have seen...It may be the swap that is the problem...I know that it is in the cobra...If your doing the swap your going to have a decent amount of cash set back then why not go with the TKO?

I have just had a few friends have problems with the 3rd and 4th for some reason...But given this could all be in the installment and it is a high possibility that it does not even involve the tranny...

Now given the 6th gear is great for someone who wants gain alittle bit more drive ability with the 6th gear...

INFO

You can go to that site and see some of the problems the T56 can have...Now given that all trannys can be bad but I am not a fan of the T56...For the money you cant beat a TKO600...

But Like I said that is my personal opinion...So take it for what its worth...

It also depends on what your plans for the car contain...

White99stang · July 5th, 2006, 09:56 AM

If someone was gonna drive their car everyday actually a T-56 would be better for gas milage and comfort of shifting, plus it will hold lots of power. The TKO-600 is a very strong tranny but its very notchy and a pain in the ass to shift. From what i hear its one of the worst shifting tranny's you can get, save some money and get a g-force T-5 which is the best shifting tranny i think you can get.

Casper98GT · July 5th, 2006, 01:36 PM

^^^ Agree'd. The tko500 is notchy as a bastard as well and makes alot of noise.

July 4th, 2006, 03:44 PM	#1
Rantheman Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eugene OR, Posts: 92 iTrader: 0 reviews	to stroke or not to stroke Alright so my motor is giving me enough trouble now that i think i am going to tare back into it but if i do that i am going to do it right first off i will deffinetly change pistons so I am not running 10.2 compression i want to get down to 9.1 then i will deffinetly port and polish my heads but i am debating on stroking it because i think i will run a blower with the compression i am going to have but i really want more cubic inches what you all think __________________

July 4th, 2006, 04:12 PM	#2
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	Im a big fan of the 331...It does not have the oiling prblems like the 347 does... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

July 4th, 2006, 05:07 PM	#3
stangliter04 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Port St. John Florida Posts: 849 iTrader: 2 reviews	I say go with a power adder, lower the compression... Chris I am also a big fan of the 331 but he is working with the 4.6 __________________ Silver 04 Cobra... with a Whipple

July 4th, 2006, 05:19 PM	#4
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	YEah, 331/347 not applicable for this car. Unless we dont know he has a 302. So guessing you have a 4.6. I say stroke it. AND forced induction. If you have the money, build it right. Be happy with it. What are you running now? Im guessing PI swap if youre runing such high compression. __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

July 4th, 2006, 05:46 PM	#5
Rantheman Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eugene OR, Posts: 92 iTrader: 0 reviews	yep you guessed it p.i. head swap and more with a new motor with only 2,000 miles on it but every noise i keep fixing a new one arrives well i think stroking it would be sweet i have seen a 4.6l cobra motor that is stroked to a 320 somthing i wish i could stroke that far it seems like i can only go up to a 302 __________________

July 4th, 2006, 05:50 PM	#6
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah, PI swap does suck because of the high compression. Most people now go with a PI motor. And then boost it. I know people who stroke and usually come out with 5.1 liters. Why are you having so many problems with a PI swap ??? What kinda noises are comming out of it? __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

July 4th, 2006, 06:03 PM	#7
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	OOpps I guess that is what I get for multi-tasking; I glanced at his sig and thought it said 95... I had 331 on the brain becuase I currently working on a build for a friend... With the 4.6 I have heard great things about people stroking to a 302...Then go forced induction... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

July 4th, 2006, 06:23 PM	#8
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	stroke that bitch. the people who are getting the 320 are also doing a big bore but you hae to have an aluminum block to do that big of a bore on it. __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

July 4th, 2006, 06:44 PM	#10
Rantheman Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eugene OR, Posts: 92 iTrader: 0 reviews	boy if i do this i think i will keep it N/A for a while i don't think my tans could handle that kid of power with a blower __________________

July 4th, 2006, 06:52 PM	#11
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah , the trans are junk. Im suprised i havent gotten syncro noise yet, i beat the crap out of my trans. Keep it N/A for a while and get used to the power and you might find you wouldnt even need any kinda F/I for a while. Depends on youre need for power. __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

July 4th, 2006, 06:57 PM	#12
Rantheman Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eugene OR, Posts: 92 iTrader: 0 reviews	my need of power is almost endless but yeah i will keep in n/a untill wither i get a t56 or some trans to handle the power i still got my chevelle to worry about __________________

July 4th, 2006, 07:14 PM	#14
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	What have you "heard" bad about a t56 in a 2v? __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

July 4th, 2006, 10:26 PM	#16
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,771 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i am the guy to talk to about stroking the motor, why cause i have a 302 stroker. Well if you are going to go forced induction then i say go for it cause after that you will get that mid range tq that will help. If staying N/A then i say don't cause you will loose a little hp but gain tq. I have about 30 more tq than most n/a cars but not as much hp. The stroker needs alot of air to make power. i plan on going twin turbos so with the stroker i will make alot more power than a stock stroke motor. __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

July 4th, 2006, 10:42 PM	#17
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	Chris youre saying a T56 which is in the Cobra has problems with a 2v's power!! Of course a TKO is better than a factory tremec. White.... thanks for posting the info. I didnt relalize that you dont make much more power from a stroker. But then again, when you think about the motor already having a nice stroke to it, it tends to make sence. __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

July 5th, 2006, 09:56 AM	#19
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,771 iTrader: 0 reviews	If someone was gonna drive their car everyday actually a T-56 would be better for gas milage and comfort of shifting, plus it will hold lots of power. The TKO-600 is a very strong tranny but its very notchy and a pain in the ass to shift. From what i hear its one of the worst shifting tranny's you can get, save some money and get a g-force T-5 which is the best shifting tranny i think you can get. __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

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July 5th, 2006, 01:36 PM	#20
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	^^^ Agree'd. The tko500 is notchy as a bastard as well and makes alot of noise. __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

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