Intake manifold

jbm5781 · July 31st, 2007, 04:11 PM

Well, go figure... My plastic piece of crap NPI intake manifold finally gave out on my 97 GT. I've been noticing that I was losing fluid but couldn't figure out where it was coming from. I finally found an extremely small crack in it and must replace it. Can anyone give me any idea as to how long I can expect to spend on putting a new one on? I don't have a ton of money to upgrade to the PI intake so I'm going to have to go with an upgraded NPI and was wondering what kind of time frame I'm looking at spending on putting the new one on. Also, any pointers would be greatly appreciated guys.

HMUSN · July 31st, 2007, 04:12 PM

this cheap enough?

pi intake

jbm5781 · July 31st, 2007, 04:25 PM

What other mods would I need to do if I wanted to put this one on my car? I'm not exactly an expert when it comes to doing a NPI to PI swap. I just want to make sure I have everything in order before I go and
put it on.

HMUSN · July 31st, 2007, 04:29 PM

here is a go by

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ap-vt1878.html

jbm5781 · July 31st, 2007, 05:15 PM

Ok so my next question is how much taller is the PI intake versus the NPI intake? Will it fit under the stock hood without any problems?

caintcatchmyGT · July 31st, 2007, 05:27 PM

Yes it will fit just fine.

jbm5781 · July 31st, 2007, 05:37 PM

Since I'm not sure if I'm going to buy a new PI intake or a used one, where could I find a gasket kit for a used one? I know it will need new gaskets unless a used one happens to come with one. Just out of curiosity, what kind of power gains will I get from a PI intake over my stock intake? I'm not expecting much at all, maybe a few hp.

AnglicoGT98 · July 31st, 2007, 06:32 PM

Talk to Randy over at ModularDepot.com. He'll get you eveyrthing you need to put the intake on. He's actually on vacation right now until the 13th....if you can wait that long. I'd say atleast 15 RWHP from the PI manifold. They flow ALOT better than our stock ones. But that's just a rough guess on the HP gain. But, there WILL be a gain none the less. (Someone chime in here who's already done the sawp...)
Go for the PI manifold. It would be stupid to go through the time and effort to keep the car the same. I always say when something breaks it's time to get something better!! Go for the PI!!

jbm5781 · July 31st, 2007, 06:52 PM

Sounds like a plan to me... I was thinking of upgrading the intake plenum and throttle body also. What would be a good size and set up to go with? I already have a full catback with bbk o/r x-pipe, 40 series flows, Grantelli MAF and am waiting on a CAI. I'm just trying to make sure it all flows good. Later on down the road, I will be upgrading from the stock cam and adding 4.10 gears (unless other gears would be better with this sorry auto I have) but that will have to wait.

MustangMatt96GT · July 31st, 2007, 06:55 PM

I say go with Accfab. 70 or 75 mm

caintcatchmyGT · July 31st, 2007, 06:59 PM

I am running a Professional products polished 75mm t/b and upper plentum and i love it. Its awesome. a huge difference, you caint go wrong with this!

jbm5781 · July 31st, 2007, 07:14 PM

I am thinking of going with a 75mm just in case I need more air flow. Any suggestions on gears for this sorry automatic? It shifts harder than any automatic I've ever driven (barks 2nd any time I run it hard) but it still doesn't pull like I want it to. 1st gear is an absolute turd and it doesn't really start pulling until about 3k in 2nd.

MustangMatt96GT · July 31st, 2007, 08:09 PM

4.10s will take care of that and 4.30s will feel even better!

nes · July 31st, 2007, 08:41 PM

i would buy my intake manifold, it will come with the alt bracket xover, and coolant tube, but u will still need gaskets and the 6 bolts to bolt on the xover to the intake, ill take 110shipped for it...

jbm5781 · July 31st, 2007, 08:43 PM

I was thinking 4.10's... what would be the best route to take when trying to recalibrate the speedo? I have heard that you can't do it with a hand held since it's not a 99 or newer. Would it be better to change out the speedo gear or have it tuned somewhere? I wouldn't care about the speedo but the cops here in Mississippi are absolutely merciless on a mustang owner and I can't afford another ticket.

kennyGT · July 31st, 2007, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by jbm5781

the cops here in Mississippi are absolutely merciless on a mustang owner and I can't afford another ticket.

fans of the camaro?

jbm5781 · July 31st, 2007, 09:16 PM

Somewhat... I know 3 cops who have Mustangs but for some reason, they will even tell you that a cop will pull over a mustang faster than just about any other car. Last 2 times I got pulled over, all they wanted was to talk about my car. Go figure... I guess they had nothing else to do on a Friday night

jbm5781 · July 31st, 2007, 10:49 PM

Can any of you tell me if the PI intakes I have found on Ebay would be worth buying? There are a ton of them on there for around $200 shipped. Would these be worth my time? If so what else would I need to buy to make them work on my 97 GT? Will the fuel injectors, rails, and alternator brackets be interchangable?

caintcatchmyGT · July 31st, 2007, 10:53 PM

You can get the PI intakes new for $200, you will need different alternator brackets, water tube and something else, i just drew a blank.

MustangMatt96GT · July 31st, 2007, 10:57 PM

Here are the parts you will need to complete the swap!

Intake of course
PI Coolant tube
PI Water Pump nipple
PI intake gaskets
Toyota FIPG Black

The altenator bracket is not needed, I just moddified the one I had and made it work.

July 31st, 2007, 04:11 PM	#1
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	Intake manifold Well, go figure... My plastic piece of crap NPI intake manifold finally gave out on my 97 GT. I've been noticing that I was losing fluid but couldn't figure out where it was coming from. I finally found an extremely small crack in it and must replace it. Can anyone give me any idea as to how long I can expect to spend on putting a new one on? I don't have a ton of money to upgrade to the PI intake so I'm going to have to go with an upgraded NPI and was wondering what kind of time frame I'm looking at spending on putting the new one on. Also, any pointers would be greatly appreciated guys.

July 31st, 2007, 04:12 PM	#2
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	this cheap enough? pi intake __________________

July 31st, 2007, 04:29 PM	#4
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	here is a go by http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ap-vt1878.html __________________

July 31st, 2007, 06:32 PM	#8
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630 iTrader: 2 reviews	Talk to Randy over at ModularDepot.com. He'll get you eveyrthing you need to put the intake on. He's actually on vacation right now until the 13th....if you can wait that long. I'd say atleast 15 RWHP from the PI manifold. They flow ALOT better than our stock ones. But that's just a rough guess on the HP gain. But, there WILL be a gain none the less. (Someone chime in here who's already done the sawp...) Go for the PI manifold. It would be stupid to go through the time and effort to keep the car the same. I always say when something breaks it's time to get something better!! Go for the PI!! __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

July 31st, 2007, 06:55 PM	#10
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	I say go with Accfab. 70 or 75 mm __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

July 31st, 2007, 04:25 PM	#3
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	What other mods would I need to do if I wanted to put this one on my car? I'm not exactly an expert when it comes to doing a NPI to PI swap. I just want to make sure I have everything in order before I go and put it on.

July 31st, 2007, 05:15 PM	#5
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok so my next question is how much taller is the PI intake versus the NPI intake? Will it fit under the stock hood without any problems?

July 31st, 2007, 05:27 PM	#6
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yes it will fit just fine.

July 31st, 2007, 05:37 PM	#7
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	Since I'm not sure if I'm going to buy a new PI intake or a used one, where could I find a gasket kit for a used one? I know it will need new gaskets unless a used one happens to come with one. Just out of curiosity, what kind of power gains will I get from a PI intake over my stock intake? I'm not expecting much at all, maybe a few hp.

July 31st, 2007, 06:52 PM	#9
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sounds like a plan to me... I was thinking of upgrading the intake plenum and throttle body also. What would be a good size and set up to go with? I already have a full catback with bbk o/r x-pipe, 40 series flows, Grantelli MAF and am waiting on a CAI. I'm just trying to make sure it all flows good. Later on down the road, I will be upgrading from the stock cam and adding 4.10 gears (unless other gears would be better with this sorry auto I have) but that will have to wait.

July 31st, 2007, 06:59 PM	#11
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349 iTrader: 0 reviews	I am running a Professional products polished 75mm t/b and upper plentum and i love it. Its awesome. a huge difference, you caint go wrong with this!

July 31st, 2007, 07:14 PM	#12
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	I am thinking of going with a 75mm just in case I need more air flow. Any suggestions on gears for this sorry automatic? It shifts harder than any automatic I've ever driven (barks 2nd any time I run it hard) but it still doesn't pull like I want it to. 1st gear is an absolute turd and it doesn't really start pulling until about 3k in 2nd.

July 31st, 2007, 08:09 PM	#13
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	4.10s will take care of that and 4.30s will feel even better! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

July 31st, 2007, 08:41 PM	#14
nes Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 962 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would buy my intake manifold, it will come with the alt bracket xover, and coolant tube, but u will still need gaskets and the 6 bolts to bolt on the xover to the intake, ill take 110shipped for it... __________________ silver 98gt, blown- sold laser red 98gt, stock- gave away stormy blue 09 mazda3-traded 09 subaru wrx- soon to be 12 sec. daily driver 1988 gt- toy

July 31st, 2007, 08:43 PM	#15
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was thinking 4.10's... what would be the best route to take when trying to recalibrate the speedo? I have heard that you can't do it with a hand held since it's not a 99 or newer. Would it be better to change out the speedo gear or have it tuned somewhere? I wouldn't care about the speedo but the cops here in Mississippi are absolutely merciless on a mustang owner and I can't afford another ticket.

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July 31st, 2007, 09:16 PM	#17
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	Somewhat... I know 3 cops who have Mustangs but for some reason, they will even tell you that a cop will pull over a mustang faster than just about any other car. Last 2 times I got pulled over, all they wanted was to talk about my car. Go figure... I guess they had nothing else to do on a Friday night __________________ Who cares what your import looks like... They'll all be laughing at you at the finish line.

July 31st, 2007, 10:49 PM	#18
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	Can any of you tell me if the PI intakes I have found on Ebay would be worth buying? There are a ton of them on there for around $200 shipped. Would these be worth my time? If so what else would I need to buy to make them work on my 97 GT? Will the fuel injectors, rails, and alternator brackets be interchangable? __________________ Who cares what your import looks like... They'll all be laughing at you at the finish line.

July 31st, 2007, 10:53 PM	#19
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349 iTrader: 0 reviews	You can get the PI intakes new for $200, you will need different alternator brackets, water tube and something else, i just drew a blank.

July 31st, 2007, 10:57 PM	#20
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	Here are the parts you will need to complete the swap! Intake of course PI Coolant tube PI Water Pump nipple PI intake gaskets Toyota FIPG Black The altenator bracket is not needed, I just moddified the one I had and made it work. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

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